Re: I was recently reminded of how bad the 80's were
posted at 3/2/2012 1:48 PM EST
In Response to Re: I was recently reminded of how bad the 80's were
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: I was recently reminded of how bad the 80's were : Right, but that goes hand in hand. If the bulk of what is being produced is canned to make money off of it, that's what the era was or is. So, it has no bearing on where the root is. They're completely connected. If something was so genuinely good or great like U2, Petty, Springsteen, Billy Joel, as examples in the 1980s, it always got through to the masses alongside Milli Vanilli, et al, regardlesss of the general agenda of the music industry. Also, the consolidation of the different aspects of the industry didn't occur until the mid/late 1990s. Are we comparing for example hair metal and grunge? One is clearly a gimmick/entertainment style channeling glam rock via Kiss and all that, but the other is a natural evolution of music. One is processed, the other isn't. One originated in the 1980s, the other the early 1990s. See the difference? Put it this way, if hair metal wasn't so over-saturated, grunge may have remained a more underground music movement to the point bands like Nirvana and PJ may have been buried longer. It was just their luck that hair metal was over-exposed allowing for those grunge bands to be sold via MTV, on the radio, etc. MTV was cooler to me by 1992 than it was in 1987, for example and that's because the music landscape across the board was more diversified. Also, another genre that evolved in the 1990s was the "jamband" genre. Not all like it, but it still came to the forefront in the 1990s, where it didn't have a chance to catch fire in the 1980s. Now, you see it as something that has been exposed more so the masses, due the evolution of it, not because it could be marketed (which it couldn't be anyway). Again, I still dig some 80s stuff for sure, but I don't consider it part of my serious listening.
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But again, the bulk of what's being produced is and has always been commercial stuff. Sometimes, quality matches up with quantity evenly, but most of the time, it's lopsided. The quality usually flies under the radar but ends up being more important to the music that succeeds it.
Take a band like New Order, which may have origins in the late 70s, but is very much a product of the 80s. Very influential, very important to the development of electronic music, AND very successful (at least in the UK). Also, The Smiths, The Cure.
Take Stevie Ray Vaughan, darn near a virtuoso blues-rock guitarist who absolutely scorched during the 80s, starting with a solo on a David Bowie record in 1981.
And again, I'll mention the Pixies, who were a direct influence on Nirvana and grunge in general and now recognized as one of the most important post-punk bands along with The Replacements.
Call it what you will: new wave, post-punk, art punk, heavy metal, college rock, underground, indie, ...there was lots of great music in the 80s...just as there is now.