Re: Women and Mainstream Music. The New Gold Standard?
posted at 11/22/2011 12:49 PM EST
In Response to Re: Women and Mainstream Music. The New Gold Standard?
[QUOTE]I know this esteemed group of music enthusiasts recently touched on Women in R@R in the Passion thread, but do you agree with the premise that Women have now become the undisputed masters of the mainstream music scene, and which women do you think Adele, Gaga and Taylor Swift, owe their good fortune to? Polar, First, I think you have truly choice taste in music, based on your posts to the forum. I didn't see the program that you mentioned -- I'll catch it or watch it online. Sounds excellent. It's still a male-dominated industry -- I don't think it matters as it pertains to this discussion, but I do believe this to be true. Statistics may show that the babes have evened out the mix to a certain extent, and they have -- but if they are the masters of the mainstream, it is because they are being cut out of cookie cutters -- the music sounds the same, the messages are the same, and yes, sex sells. More than ever, in fact. I did a thread of this nature a while back and believe me, I have to agree with most of what I got for input in that thread. If Jessey posts, I know I will agree with him; and I agree w/Newman. I also did a thread on Adele last year, I believe, before she was a name brand in the USA. I heard about her on an international board I read. I contrasted her to Lady Gaga in my thread b/c I saw Adele as a vocalist who was making it without gimmicks and without being cut out of a cookie cutter: she's beautiful, but she's not slim, she does not dress provocatively and she's down to earth. Her talent is pure. She is the exception to the rule, as she is very young. Male RnR singers show up on stage in t-shirts, jeans, boots, some don't bother to bathe, don't need to shave, don't need to worry about their appearance. Sure, the audience will judge, but it is more rare and less harsh than judging women performers. Can females show up like that? If they do, how long will they last and who is going to pay attention? Seriously. Tori Amos, Aimee Mann, PJ Harvey, the one and only Sarah McLachlan, Sara Bareilles, Loreena McKennitt, Alicia Keys, Kim Deal, Alison Krauss -- I mean the list goes on and on, old and new. But they are not the ones that are the masters of the mainstream -- and that's alright with me, you know? Bet it's alright with you, too . :)
Posted by yogafriend[/QUOTE]
It is alright with me as well!! All of the female artists you mentioned are personal favorites of mine, with a with heavy bend towards Loreena McKennitt and Aimee Mann. With Mckennitt, there is something very mystical about her music, which can pretty much fit any mood I am in. Aimee Mann in my opinion is one of the most underrated songwriters of any genre today.
I am also a huge PJ Harvey fan http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrCQbrFCQ1I