"A Republican Case For Climate Action"

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    "A Republican Case For Climate Action"

    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/02/opinion/a-republican-case-for-climate-action.html

    As written by four former EPA Admins under Republican presidents.  A few choice quotes:

     

    "There is no longer any credible scientific debate about the basic facts: our world continues to warm, with the last decade the hottest in modern records, and the deep ocean warming faster than the earth’s atmosphere. Sea level is rising. Arctic Sea ice is melting years faster than projected.

    The costs of inaction are undeniable. The lines of scientific evidence grow only stronger and more numerous. And the window of time remaining to act is growing smaller: delay could mean that warming becomes “locked in.”

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    We served Republican presidents, but we have a message that transcends political affiliation: the United States must move now on substantive steps to curb climate change, at home and internationally….

    We can have both a strong economy and a livable climate. All parties know that we need both. The rest of the discussion is either detail, which we can resolve, or purposeful delay, which we should not tolerate.

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    Dealing with this political reality, President Obama’s June climate action plan lays out achievable actions that would deliver real progress. He will use his executive powers to require reductions in the amount of carbon dioxide emitted by the nation’s power plants and spur increased investment in clean energy technology, which is inarguably the path we must follow to ensure a strong economy along with a livable climate.

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    Mr. Obama’s plan is just a start. More will be required. But we must continue efforts to reduce the climate-altering pollutants that threaten our planet. The only uncertainty about our warming world is how bad the changes will get, and how soon. What is most clear is that there is no time to waste."

     
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    It may be a political reality, but it is not a scientific reality, atleast not in the human activity sense. 

    The Earth and the Sun are the culprits.  Sue them.  Look up methane gas artic and get back to me.

     
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    He tried the clean - green energy thing not to long ago, if I recall he wasted hundreds of billions of tax payer's money. Hand it over too the private sector, I know it goes against the grain watching capitalism grow and thrive.   

     
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    The taxpayer funded global warming zealot Michael Mann shows up everywhere campaigning for liberal Democrats, and insulting Republicans as ignorant.

    Bipartisan, my foot. This is a partisan campaign to fund more Obama cronies with taxpayer funding for wasteful useless boondoggles.

     Politicized science, period.

     
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    Here is the latest 'scientific' spin ..no douby 99.9% of "climate scientists' will back up this ludicrous notion...

    http://www.latimes.com/news/science/la-sci-climate-change-conflict-20130802,0,3466600.story

    "Violence will rise as climate changes, scientists predict"

    "The incidence of war and civil unrest may increase by as much as 56% between now and 2050, due to warmer temperature and extreme rainfall patterns predicted by climate change scientists.

    "Likewise, episodes of interpersonal violence — murder, assault, rape, domestic abuse — could increase by as much as 16%, they report in a study published Thursday by the journal Science.

    "We find strong causal evidence linking climatic events to human conflict … across all major regions of the world," the researchers concluded.
    "Now that we scared you , where are my fat government subsidies"? (OK I added the last part)

    Defense lawyers will soon add "climate change" as a rock solid defense to murder charges...

     
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    Nothing like changing the subject when one runs out of ideas.

    At least the gopers in the OP are being honest with themselves and not following their party's great lurch backwards.

    And as with so many other issues like gay marriage, the party is several steps behind the trend (when they're not standing in the way).

    How weak are their arguments? 

    skeeter: "Blame the Sun."

    Yeah, that weak....

     

     

     
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    Nothing like changing the subject when one runs out of ideas.

    At least the gopers in the OP are being honest with themselves and not following their party's great lurch backwards.

    And as with so many other issues like gay marriage, the party is several steps behind the trend (when they're not standing in the way).

    How weak are their arguments? 

    skeeter: "Blame the Sun."

    Yeah, that weak....

     

     



    Weak? Have you seen how big the Sun is?

    your argument centers on the premise that you are the significant player In the temperature of the atmosphere, and that is simply shoddy science, and apparently to you, a religion.

     
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    Clearly these Republican appointees have been brain-washed by the Lizard Men and their Librul Minions to become part of the conspiracy to employee climate scientists.



    It wasn't the lizard men.  Thems cool dudes.

    They were strapped to chairs and made to listen to Obama speeches for days on end.  

    That's what really happened.

     
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    Nothing like changing the subject when one runs out of ideas.

    At least the gopers in the OP are being honest with themselves and not following their party's great lurch backwards.

    And as with so many other issues like gay marriage, the party is several steps behind the trend (when they're not standing in the way).

    How weak are their arguments? 

    skeeter: "Blame the Sun."

    Yeah, that weak....

     

     

     



    Weak? Have you seen how big the Sun is?

     

    your argument centers on the premise that you are the significant player In the temperature of the atmosphere, and that is simply shoddy science, and apparently to you, a religion.

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    Except that the science shows quite clearly that the sun is trending cooler, not hotter, thereby eviscerating your (still weak) argument.

    The issue is how much of the sun's radiation is being trapped in the atmosphere by the greenhouse effect...

    ...i.e., the effect we are causing via pollution and other behaviors.

     

     

     

     
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    In response to skeeter20's comment:

    It may be a political reality, but it is not a scientific reality, atleast not in the human activity sense. 

    The Earth and the Sun are the culprits.  Sue them.  Look up methane gas artic and get back to me.




    The science is so simple that even a conservative should be able to grasp it.  Imagine the temperature inside your car on a sunny day with the windows closed vs open.  Its literally the same concept, but instead of a window, the earth has greenhouse gases to trap the heat.

     
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    Weak? Have you seen how big the Sun is?

     

     

     



    Pointing to the sun is a lot worse than weak. It's completely, hopelessly, and utterly idiotic.

     

     

    But you knew that.

     



    I guess the Sun is weaker than i thought.

    Coldest summer in the artic ever, this year.

    still, the sun is the biggest climate influeearth to Earth.

    but you knew that.

     

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