Bill Moyers: The American Legislative Exchange Council Is Hard at Work Privatizing America, One Statehouse at a Time

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    Bill Moyers: The American Legislative Exchange Council Is Hard at Work Privatizing America, One Statehouse at a Time

    A national consortium of state politicians and powerful corporations, ALEC — the American Legislative Exchange Council — presents itself as a “nonpartisan public-private partnership”. But behind that mantra lies a vast network of corporate lobbying and political action aimed to increase corporate profits at public expense without public knowledge.

    In state houses around the country, hundreds of pieces of boilerplate ALEC legislation are proposed or enacted that would, among other things, dilute collective bargaining rights, make it harder for some Americans to vote, and limit corporate liability for harm caused to consumers — each accomplished without the public ever knowing who’s behind it. Using interviews, documents, and field reporting,  “United States of ALEC — A Follow-Up” explores ALEC’s self-serving machine at work, acting in a way one Wisconsin politician describes as “a corporate dating service for lonely legislators and corporate special interests.”

    Former health care industry executive  Wendell Potter says, “Even though I’d known of [ALEC] for a long time, I was astonished. Just about everything that I knew that the health insurance industry wanted out of any state lawmaker was included in that package of bills.”

    Following up on a 2012 report,  this update includes new examples of corporate influence on state legislation and lawmakers, the growing public protest against ALEC’s big business-serving agenda, and internal tactics ALEC is instituting to further shroud its actions and intentions.

    “United States of ALEC” Executive Producer Tom Casciato says people who saw the  first report “might be surprised to learn that, despite more than 40 companies having  dropped out of ALEC, the organization is still going very strong.” He adds, “ALEC doesn’t publish a list of its members, so covering will always be hard, but in a democracy it’s a good idea for people to know where their laws originate.”

    In addition to watching the show, you should follow our  “Eye on ALEC” blog and see  all of our features and articles related to ALEC. Also, you can help us build a  national map of state representatives who are members of ALEC.

    http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/bill-moyers-american-legislative-exchange-council-hard-work-privatizing-america

     
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    A national consortium of state politicians and powerful corporations, ALEC — the American Legislative Exchange Council — presents itself as a “nonpartisan public-private partnership”. But behind that mantra lies a vast network of corporate lobbying and political action aimed to increase corporate profits at public expense without public knowledge.

    In state houses around the country, hundreds of pieces of boilerplate ALEC legislation are proposed or enacted that would, among other things, dilute collective bargaining rights, make it harder for some Americans to vote, and limit corporate liability for harm caused to consumers — each accomplished without the public ever knowing who’s behind it. Using interviews, documents, and field reporting,  “United States of ALEC — A Follow-Up” explores ALEC’s self-serving machine at work, acting in a way one Wisconsin politician describes as “a corporate dating service for lonely legislators and corporate special interests.”

    Former health care industry executive  Wendell Potter says, “Even though I’d known of [ALEC] for a long time, I was astonished. Just about everything that I knew that the health insurance industry wanted out of any state lawmaker was included in that package of bills.”

    Following up on a 2012 report,  this update includes new examples of corporate influence on state legislation and lawmakers, the growing public protest against ALEC’s big business-serving agenda, and internal tactics ALEC is instituting to further shroud its actions and intentions.

    “United States of ALEC” Executive Producer Tom Casciato says people who saw the  first report “might be surprised to learn that, despite more than 40 companies having  dropped out of ALEC, the organization is still going very strong.” He adds, “ALEC doesn’t publish a list of its members, so covering will always be hard, but in a democracy it’s a good idea for people to know where their laws originate.”

    In addition to watching the show, you should follow our  “Eye on ALEC” blog and see  all of our features and articles related to ALEC. Also, you can help us build a  national map of state representatives who are members of ALEC.

    http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/bill-moyers-american-legislative-exchange-council-hard-work-privatizing-america



    thoughts? i'm sure the friedmanite's will have something to say...

     
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    Privacy is a sacred word to many Americans, as demonstrated by the recent uproar over the brazen invasion of it by the Patriot Act-enabled National Security Agency (NSA). The information about dragnet data-collecting of telephone and internet records leaked by Edward Snowden has opened the door to another pressing conversation—one about privatization, or corporatization of this governmental function.

    read more at http://dandelionsalad.wordpress.com/2013/06/23/fascism-usa-corporatizing-national-security-by-ralph-nader/

     
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    ALEC is a non-profit that promotes limited government, free markets, and federalism. The do this "through a nonpartisan public-private partnership of America's state legislators, members of the private sector, the federal government, and general public."

    Four groups funded by left-wing billionaire George Soros and his Open Society Foundations are behind the attacks on ALEC. The Center for Media and Democracy has an entire section on its website called ALEC Exposed and received $200,000. The Sunlight Foundation, which provided data for the article, received another $250,000.

    The article criticized organizers of an ALEC conference for denying credentials to the unhinged, far-left blog Alternet and removing liberal activists from "liberal website" Think Progress. Alternet and Think Progress are also recipients of Soros largess. They're part of the liberal "echo-chamber" that reaches more than 300 million people every month and Soros-funded Media Consortium, which received $425,000 and has been busy promoting Occupy Wall Street. Care2, another consortium member, promoted an Occupy protest at an ALEC conference where 24 protesters were arrested.


    Ah, the irony...Government-funded socialist nutball Bill Moyers and his George Soros-funded zealots, attack supposed "big corporations"..yet they are funded by a single foreign billionaire speculator zealot trying to make America a socialist bastion...

     
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    ALEC owns the Republican Party. Every year, the Republican platform is nothing more than ALEC's agenda. Google ALEC and you'll see what I mean. If Grover Norquist wants to make government small enough to drown in the bathtub, ALEC wants to beat it to death and then privatize it, er profitize it.

     
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    "dilute collective bargaining rights". The Democrat Party is funded by corrupt public employee unions, who elect their poodle Democrats, who then vote to hire more and more useless public employees, and fatten their pensions to ridiculous amounts....rinse, recycle, repeat.

    "make it harder for some Americans to vote" -yes specifically someone without an ID trying to commit voter fraud.

    "limit corporate liability for harm caused to consumers"  Another special interest group in bed with Democrats, crooked shark billionaire trial lawyers, like John Edwards, who fleeced billions on bogus claims...the true victoms of business negligance get little, the lawyers loot most of it.

     
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    "dilute collective bargaining rights". The Democrat Party is funded by corrupt public employee unions, who elect their poodle Democrats, who then vote to hire more and more useless public employees, and fatten their pensions to ridiculous amounts....rinse, recycle, repeat.

    "make it harder for some Americans to vote" -yes specifically someone without an ID trying to commit voter fraud.

    "limit corporate liability for harm caused to consumers"  Another special interest group in bed with Democrats, crooked shark billionaire trial lawyers, like John Edwards, who fleeced billions on bogus claims...the true victoms of business negligance get little, the lawyers loot most of it.




     
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    James Carville.

    Heh.

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    Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.

     
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    "dilute collective bargaining rights". The Democrat Party is funded by corrupt public employee unions, who elect their poodle Democrats, who then vote to hire more and more useless public employees, and fatten their pensions to ridiculous amounts....rinse, recycle, repeat.

    "make it harder for some Americans to vote" -yes specifically someone without an ID trying to commit voter fraud.

    "limit corporate liability for harm caused to consumers"  Another special interest group in bed with Democrats, crooked shark billionaire trial lawyers, like John Edwards, who fleeced billions on bogus claims...the true victoms of business negligance get little, the lawyers loot most of it.



    Br'er Crankup don't you ever give credit to the folks that write the articles that you paste .... btw are you calling me corrupt ...... I belong to an public employee union and I am very honest... citizens trust me and depend on me to provide a very dangerous service .... they depend on me to enter danger zones that a lesser person would run from not run into and I been serving this country and her citizens since I've been 18 years old ... I'm more honest than you ever thought about being ...... tell us again what you do ... a contractor in the D.C. area living off public funds .... you sir are the worst type of person ... you are a hypocrite .... you leech off employees of the government and than you have the gall to call them corrupt as long as you get yours you don't care about anyone else ......

     
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    In response to Sistersledge's comment:

    In response to ComingLiberalCrackup's comment:

     

    "dilute collective bargaining rights". The Democrat Party is funded by corrupt public employee unions, who elect their poodle Democrats, who then vote to hire more and more useless public employees, and fatten their pensions to ridiculous amounts....rinse, recycle, repeat.

    "make it harder for some Americans to vote" -yes specifically someone without an ID trying to commit voter fraud.

    "limit corporate liability for harm caused to consumers"  Another special interest group in bed with Democrats, crooked shark billionaire trial lawyers, like John Edwards, who fleeced billions on bogus claims...the true victoms of business negligance get little, the lawyers loot most of it.

     



    Br'er Crankup don't you ever give credit to the folks that write the articles that you paste .... btw are you calling me corrupt ...... I belong to an public employee union and I am very honest... citizens trust me and depend on me to provide a very dangerous service .... they depend on me to enter danger zones that a lesser person would run from not run into and I been serving this country and her citizens since I've been 18 years old ... I'm more honest than you ever thought about being ...... tell us again what you do ... a contractor in the D.C. area living off public funds .... you sir are the worst type of person ... you are a hypocrite .... you leech off employees of the government and than you have the gall to call them corrupt as long as you get yours you don't care about anyone else ......

     



    Sister - based upon your posts I know you are a veteran, what do you currently do for a living

     
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    In response to Sistersledge's comment:

    In response to ComingLiberalCrackup's comment:

     

    "dilute collective bargaining rights". The Democrat Party is funded by corrupt public employee unions, who elect their poodle Democrats, who then vote to hire more and more useless public employees, and fatten their pensions to ridiculous amounts....rinse, recycle, repeat.

    "make it harder for some Americans to vote" -yes specifically someone without an ID trying to commit voter fraud.

    "limit corporate liability for harm caused to consumers"  Another special interest group in bed with Democrats, crooked shark billionaire trial lawyers, like John Edwards, who fleeced billions on bogus claims...the true victoms of business negligance get little, the lawyers loot most of it.

     



    Br'er Crankup don't you ever give credit to the folks that write the articles that you paste .... btw are you calling me corrupt ...... I belong to an public employee union and I am very honest... citizens trust me and depend on me to provide a very dangerous service .... they depend on me to enter danger zones that a lesser person would run from not run into and I been serving this country and her citizens since I've been 18 years old ... I'm more honest than you ever thought about being ...... tell us again what you do ... a contractor in the D.C. area living off public funds .... you sir are the worst type of person ... you are a hypocrite .... you leech off employees of the government and than you have the gall to call them corrupt as long as you get yours you don't care about anyone else ......

     



    Yes, you are clearly your own biggest fan. When is your auto biography, "Sistersledge, American hero" , coming out?

     
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    In response to Sistersledge's comment:
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    In response to ComingLiberalCrackup's comment:

     

    "dilute collective bargaining rights". The Democrat Party is funded by corrupt public employee unions, who elect their poodle Democrats, who then vote to hire more and more useless public employees, and fatten their pensions to ridiculous amounts....rinse, recycle, repeat.

    "make it harder for some Americans to vote" -yes specifically someone without an ID trying to commit voter fraud.

    "limit corporate liability for harm caused to consumers"  Another special interest group in bed with Democrats, crooked shark billionaire trial lawyers, like John Edwards, who fleeced billions on bogus claims...the true victoms of business negligance get little, the lawyers loot most of it.

     



    Br'er Crankup don't you ever give credit to the folks that write the articles that you paste .... btw are you calling me corrupt ...... I belong to an public employee union and I am very honest... citizens trust me and depend on me to provide a very dangerous service .... they depend on me to enter danger zones that a lesser person would run from not run into and I been serving this country and her citizens since I've been 18 years old ... I'm more honest than you ever thought about being ...... tell us again what you do ... a contractor in the D.C. area living off public funds .... you sir are the worst type of person ... you are a hypocrite .... you leech off employees of the government and than you have the gall to call them corrupt as long as you get yours you don't care about anyone else ......

     

     



    Yes, you are clearly your own biggest fan. When is your auto biography, "Sistersledge, American hero" , coming out?

     

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    I ain't a hero but I'm something you will never be, grateful , I'm grateful for what I have and I will never forget where I came from and how I am proud in being in the one of the GREATEST and REWARDING BROTHERHOODS known to man , Firefighting btw I know you don't have it in you to serve others ... you are nothing but a PLAGIARIZING mooch  .... your type has been around since the beginning of time and are a dime of dozen ... you take things from others who have done all the work ....

     
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    Re: Bill Moyers: The American Legislative Exchange Council Is Hard at Work Privatizing America, One Statehouse at a Time

    ALEC has its origins in conservative legislative activism.  Apologies to Mr. Manilow, but they write the laws that make the whole world barf.  Conservos on this board like to pretend orgs like ALEC are outnumbered by their liberal counterparts (they're not)...just to avoid having to actually talk about the issue at-hand:

     

    America's politics are bought and sold before the people even get their say.  Our plutocracy at work.

    Because rich people (somehow, somewhere) got the idea that they are better and more deserving of consideration than the rest of us.

     

     

     
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    ALEC is a target because it is effective.

    Part of ALEC's stated mission is "to advance the Jeffersonian principles of free markets, limited government, federalism, and individual liberty." With over 2,000 state legislative members, ALEC is able to advance the movement at the state level all across the country. And given the increasing amount of gridlock in Washington DC, states are quickly becoming the primary policy battleground.

    Breitbart:

    ALEC also provides valuable research that impacts the public debate, such as their annual state economic competitiveness index, as Rich States, Poor States, recently released in its 5th edition. The report ranks states on economic competitiveness and has documented, among other things, the benefits of tax competition -- or how high taxes and onerous government regulation drive businesses and taxpayers out of states like Illinois, California and New York and toward more pro-growth jurisdictions like Texas.

    The first wave of the assault on ALEC was primarily based on the charge that the organization was doing something nefarious in promoting model legislation at the state level.  This attack was undermined by the fact that several other organizations do very similar work, including having corporate membership. But the Progressive States Network and the National Conference of State Legislatures were never targeted for the ALEC treatment, despite their obviously similar approaches to public policy issues. But unlike ALEC, these organizations push a left leaning agenda more suitable to ALEC's critics.

    ALEC is being bludgeoned for supporting bipartisan Stand Your Ground laws - which is being falsely blamed for the Trayvon Martin shooting - and widely popular, common sense voter ID laws.

    On both of these issues, the public agrees with ALEC. A majority opposes the efforts of the Justice Department to block the Texas Voter ID law, for instance, and more than 70% believe voters should be required to show ID before being allowed to vote.  And despite the hostile and dishonest media coverage over the Trayvon Martin shooting, a majority still support Stand Your Ground laws, which have been passed in numerous states by overwhelming, bipartisan majorities.

    That the left is able to pressure businesses into disassociating from an organization over positions that the public overwhelmingly supports is a testament to their effectiveness in waging intimidation campaigns. It also should serve as a warning to the right that winning on the merits is not always enough. We have to be vocal, or the louder minority will successfully convince frightened businesses that they are a majority.

    ALEC is a vital and effective member of the limited government movement. If the left succeeds in taking down or effectively crippling ALEC, they will simply be emboldened to pursue other targets. It is time to stand with ALEC against these dishonest assaults.

     
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    In response to GreginMeffa's comment:

    Bwa.  ALEC bad, Soros' club just fine.  Understood



    To-may-to. To-mah-to.

    It's all hyper-pluralism.

     

     
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    ALEC is a target because it is effective.

    Part of ALEC's stated mission is "to advance the Jeffersonian principles of free markets, limited government, federalism, and individual liberty." With over 2,000 state legislative members, ALEC is able to advance the movement at the state level all across the country. And given the increasing amount of gridlock in Washington DC, states are quickly becoming the primary policy battleground.

    Breitbart:

    ALEC also provides valuable research that impacts the public debate, such as their annual state economic competitiveness index, as Rich States, Poor States, recently released in its 5th edition. The report ranks states on economic competitiveness and has documented, among other things, the benefits of tax competition -- or how high taxes and onerous government regulation drive businesses and taxpayers out of states like Illinois, California and New York and toward more pro-growth jurisdictions like Texas.

    The first wave of the assault on ALEC was primarily based on the charge that the organization was doing something nefarious in promoting model legislation at the state level.  This attack was undermined by the fact that several other organizations do very similar work, including having corporate membership. But the Progressive States Network and the National Conference of State Legislatures were never targeted for the ALEC treatment, despite their obviously similar approaches to public policy issues. But unlike ALEC, these organizations push a left leaning agenda more suitable to ALEC's critics.

    ALEC is being bludgeoned for supporting bipartisan Stand Your Ground laws - which is being falsely blamed for the Trayvon Martin shooting - and widely popular, common sense voter ID laws.

    On both of these issues, the public agrees with ALEC. A majority opposes the efforts of the Justice Department to block the Texas Voter ID law, for instance, and more than 70% believe voters should be required to show ID before being allowed to vote.  And despite the hostile and dishonest media coverage over the Trayvon Martin shooting, a majority still support Stand Your Ground laws, which have been passed in numerous states by overwhelming, bipartisan majorities.

    That the left is able to pressure businesses into disassociating from an organization over positions that the public overwhelmingly supports is a testament to their effectiveness in waging intimidation campaigns. It also should serve as a warning to the right that winning on the merits is not always enough. We have to be vocal, or the louder minority will successfully convince frightened businesses that they are a majority.

    ALEC is a vital and effective member of the limited government movement. If the left succeeds in taking down or effectively crippling ALEC, they will simply be emboldened to pursue other targets. It is time to stand with ALEC against these dishonest assaults.




    Br'er Crankup I see that you are mooching again ....... it must be in your blood for you to steal somebody else's hard work  

     
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    "That the left is able to pressure businesses into disassociating from an organization over positions that the public overwhelmingly supports..."

     

     

    This bit needs some serious qualification.

     

    Both sides are full of it, but one is absolutely overflowing with it.

     

     

     

     

     
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    In response to GreginMeffa's comment:

    Bwa.  ALEC bad, Soros' club just fine.  Understood



    what does george soros have to do with the OP? let's try and stay on topic eh? nobody here is championing soros. so what YOU"RE really saying is "Soros bad, ALEC club just fine.".. understood. 

     
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    The American Legislative Exchange Council Is Hard at Work Privatizing America.

    It is about time someone started to do that. Sure as shooting, the Republicans themselves are not doing it, while Obama tries to nationalize everything.

     
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    ALEC to some extent represents the outsorucing of legislative duties to the free market.  After all, ALEC's biggest impact is producing prepackaged and prewritten legislation that only requires a sponsor in the statehouse and off the bill goes for consideration.  You may remember ALEC from such hits as Stand Your Ground laws and Arizona's show me your papers legislation.  At the end of the day, ALEC's overriding priority is to please its corporate interests for whom it exists, and that puts its priorities at odds with the average citizen whose representatvies are often coopted by this brand of prepackaged democracy...which is to say not democracy at all. 

     
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