Re: GOPer outraged at the thought of SNAP recipients doing drugs, busted for coke; blames alcohol
posted at 11/21/2013 12:50 PM EST
In response to andiejen's comment:
In response to skeeter20's comment:
In response to andiejen's comment:
You may be right about sedimentary (and great genes) but also a noticeable lack of gallantry for someone of that age.
I mean I did ask pretty please. What does it take to get an one hundred year old man to show some gallantry to a lady these days?
And, I still have my whits about me!
I don't know why Jed's posts keep getting deleted, but I take it he thinks my brain is calisfied in some way. That's an exampple of how progressive argue their point: insult the person they are arguing with, ignore the argument itself. You, Andie, never do that.
As far as Obamacare, it was an example. SNAP is no different from the standpoint of goverment invovlement. I have posted research repeatedly that shows that, as a nation, we are awash with inexpensive food. There is little reason for SNAP at the level to which it has grown, particularly when there is prentiful cheap, and even free food in nearly every area outside of rural 'merica.
SNAP is simply breeding dependency (that's the whole point for progressives), outside of the very few that really need help. Obamacare is about forcing dependency on the gubmint by people.
This is what happens when progressive government gets invovled.
You certainly have your whits about you and I appreciate the compliment in your post.
That said, I do have to disagree with you about the SNAP program. I could do it with competing statistics but for a change will do it with personal experience.
I have been a volunteer in the food pantries in the last two towns we have lived in...big surprise I know. That is a total of 9 years and running.
The clients of those pantries get 1-3 bags of groceries depending on the size of their family. The groceries consist of nearly all processed food...very little fresh produce, poultry, etc.
These people are there before we open because they are afraid we may run out of food before it is their turn. They stand outside in excessive heat, rain as well as brutal cold.
These pantries are well run in my opinion. However, the truth is over my 9 years, it is getting harder and harder to keep the shelves stocked, not just in these pantries, but all over MA. At the same time, the client list keeps growing.
Now MA has one of the lowest unemployment rates in the country but yet there does exist an hunger problem in our state.
I know some people may not feel this competes with charts and grafts, etc., but I have gotton to know some of these people. Believe me skeeter, they do need the SNAP benefits as well as whatever extra help the food pantries can provide.
Glad you volunteer. I do as well. good thing to do.
Volunteerism and charity should come before we exert tax dollars to the problem, that's my view.
As far as the food supply: as a nation we consume more calories than recommended, we throw away something like 23% of our food supply. Food Banks and soup kitchens are available in every major met area, so, I do not think SNAP needs to be as big as it is. It is not the role of government to make taking care of your self more convienient. To the extent charity does it, that's fine. It's my time and money, as it is yours. We are free to do so as we see fit. But, people who need food need to get in gear and solve their own food supply problem at some point. It is simply foolish to think it can't be done. A little tough love is needed here for many.