List of Legislation Passed by the House to End the Government Shutdown

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    List of Legislation Passed by the House to End the Government Shutdown

    Republicans are trying to get things moving along, Obama and Reid well....
    ....It's our way or the highway, and then we'll talk.
     
    SEPTEMBER 20, 2013

    Continuing resolution (H.J. Res. 59): keeps the government running at current spending levels and strengthens our economy by defunding the president’ health care law. (Passed in the House 230-189)

    SEPTEMBER 28, 2013

    Continuing resolution (H.J. Res. 59): keeps the government running at current spending levels and strengthens our economy by delaying the president’s health care law by one year, and permanently repealing ObamaCare’s tax on pacemakers and children’s hearing aids. (Amendment #1 Passed 248-174 | Amendment #2 Passed 231-192)

    Pay Our Military Act (H.R. 3210): ensures our troops would be paid in the event of a government shutdown. (Passed in the House 423-0)

    SEPTEMBER 30, 2013

    Continuing resolution (H.J. Res. 59): keeps the government running at current spending levels; ensures there’s no special treatment for Congress under the president’s health care law; and delays ObamaCare’s individual mandate, providing all Americans with the same relief the president has given big businesses. (Passed in the House 228-201)

    Continuing resolution (H. Res. 368): insists on plan to fund the government running at current spending levels; ensure there’s no special treatment for Congress under the president’s health care law; delays ObamaCare’s individual mandate, providing all Americans with the same relief the president has given big businesses; and requests a formal House-Senate conference to resolve differences. (Passed in the House 228-199)

    OCTOBER 2, 2013

    Provide Local Funding for the District of Columbia Act (H.J. Res. 71): allows our nation’s capital to continue operating using its own funding. (Passed in the House by voice vote).

    Open Our Nation's Parks and Museums Act (H.J. Res. 70): opens all of our national parks and museums, including the WWII Memorial in Washington, DC that was initially closed to veterans by the administration. (Passed in the House 252-173)

    Research for Lifesaving Cures Act (H.J. Res. 73): provides funding for the National Institute of Health, which is responsible for lifesaving medical innovations and cancer research. Click here to see Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid's (D-NV) comments about this effort. (Passed in the House 254-171)

    OCTOBER 3, 2013

    Pay Our Guard and Reserve Act (H.R. 3230): ensures the government shutdown doesn’t affect pay for our National Guard and Reserve. (Passed in the House 265-160)
    - See more at:

    Honoring Our Promise to America’s Veterans Act (H.J. Res. 72): provides immediate funding for critical veterans benefits and services, including disability claims, education and training, and more. (Passed in the House 259-157)

    OCTOBER 4, 2013

    National Emergency and Disaster Recovery Act (H.J. Res 85): provides immediate funding for the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA). (Passed in the House 247-164)

    Nutrition Assistance for Low-Income Women and Children Act (H.J. Res. 75): provides immediate funding for the Special Supplemental Nutrition Program for Women, Infants, and Children, which “serves nearly 9 million mothers and young children,” and provides “vital nutrition that poor families might otherwise be unable to afford.” (Passed in the House 244-164)

    OCTOBER 5, 2013

    Federal Employee Retroactive Pay Fairness Act (H.R. 3223): provides for compensation of federal employees furloughed due to Senate Democrats' government shutdown. This is similar to bipartisan legislation enacted during previous shutdowns. (Passed in the House 407-0)

    OCTOBER 7, 2013

    Food and Drug Safety Act (H.J.Res. 77): provides immediate funding for the Food and Drug Administration. (Passed in the House 235-162)

    OCTOBER 8, 2013

    Head Start for Low-Income Children Act (H.J.Res. 84): provides critical education funding to support Head Start programs across the country. (Passed in the House 248-168)

    Deficit Reduction and Economic Growth Working Group Act (H.R. 3273): creates a bipartisan, bicameral working group charged with beginning negotiations, resolving the differences between the House and Senate, and helping re-open the government and address our debt. (Passed in the House 224-197)

    Federal Worker Pay Fairness Act (H.J. Res. 89): ensures that federal employees who are still on the job during Democrats' shutdown are paid on time. (Passed in the House 420-0)

    The only piece of legislation the Senate took up and that Obama signed is the Pay Our Military Act, everything else has been rejected.

     
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    Nonsense.

    The path forward is glaringly obvious (even to a growing number of House Republicans): a clean continuing resolution to fund the government, and an unconditional increase in the debt limit.

     

     
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    Nonsense.

    The path forward is glaringly obvious (even to a growing number of House Republicans): a clean continuing resolution to fund the government, and an unconditional increase in the debt limit.

     

     




     

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    Jmel.   If Republicans are serious about spending reforms, getting the budget under control and reforming the tax code, then what are they waiting for? What have they been doing for the last 4 year, other than vacations, attending fund-raisers, and wasting time and money on meaningless votes to repeal Obamacare.....something they know isn't going to happen.

     
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    Nonsense.

    The path forward is glaringly obvious (even to a growing number of House Republicans): a clean continuing resolution to fund the government, and an unconditional increase in the debt limit.

    Nonsense. The only path forward is the one that WE favor, this being a democracy and all. So shut up and pass a clean CR.

     

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    Nonsense.

    The path forward is glaringly obvious (even to a growing number of House Republicans): a clean continuing resolution to fund the government, and an unconditional increase in the debt limit.

     

     




     

    Yes of course, you`re right...........(in fantasyland)

     




    Jmel.   If Republicans are serious about spending reforms, getting the budget under control and reforming the tax code, then what are they waiting for? What have they been doing for the last 4 year, other than vacations, attending fund-raisers, and wasting time and money on meaningless votes to repeal Obamacare.....something they know isn't going to happen.

     

     



    If Obama (and the Dems) were serious about anything, they would come to the table and negotiate in good faith.  There is finally a budget, after 5 years without one.  It is/was illegal that Obama didn`t have a passed budget and as you know, 2 of his proposed budgets lost in his own Democrat controlled Senate 97-0.  The only ones serious about spending reforms, budget control, and tax code, are the Republicans.

     

     "Vacations'? "Fund-raisers"?  "Wasting time and money"?  Have you been living in a vacum?  These 3 things DEFINE Obama`s existence.



    We know republicans want the obliteration of the ACA, but what are they offering up in this "negotiation"?

    Republicans haven't been serious about the budget since Reagan taught math challenged republicans that defecits don't matter.  The lion's share of the debt that America carries was amassed under GOP Presidents, not Democratic Presidents - and most specifically over the last decade, when the GOP controlled all three branches of government. During that time, GOP 'leadership' insisted on paying for unnecessary tax cuts, Medicare Part D, and elective wars on our national credit card.....to the tune of trillions.

     

     
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    and an unconditional increase in the debt limit.

    Yaaaah...what could possibly go wrong there? 

    I hope you're not a financial advisor.

     

     
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    Nonsense.

    The path forward is glaringly obvious (even to a growing number of House Republicans): a clean continuing resolution to fund the government, and an unconditional increase in the debt limit.

     

     




     

    Yes of course, you`re right...........(in fantasyland)

     




    Jmel.   If Republicans are serious about spending reforms, getting the budget under control and reforming the tax code, then what are they waiting for? What have they been doing for the last 4 year, other than vacations, attending fund-raisers, and wasting time and money on meaningless votes to repeal Obamacare.....something they know isn't going to happen.

     

     



    If Obama (and the Dems) were serious about anything, they would come to the table and negotiate in good faith.  There is finally a budget, after 5 years without one.  It is/was illegal that Obama didn`t have a passed budget and as you know, 2 of his proposed budgets lost in his own Democrat controlled Senate 97-0.  The only ones serious about spending reforms, budget control, and tax code, are the Republicans.

     

     "Vacations'? "Fund-raisers"?  "Wasting time and money"?  Have you been living in a vacum?  These 3 things DEFINE Obama`s existence.

     



    We know republicans want the obliteration of the ACA, but what are they offering up in this "negotiation"?

     

    Republicans haven't been serious about the budget since Reagan taught math challenged republicans that defecits don't matter.  The lion's share of the debt that America carries was amassed under GOP Presidents, not Democratic Presidents - and most specifically over the last decade, when the GOP controlled all three branches of government. During that time, GOP 'leadership' insisted on paying for unnecessary tax cuts, Medicare Part D, and elective wars on our national credit card.....to the tune of trillions.

     

     



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    Really?  Hmmmmmm...............as I recall, Obama picked up the reins in Jan/2009 with a $9 trillion national debt.  That debt was aquired from our 1st president, Washington, through our 43rd president, W-Bush.  then, in 4 short years, the current fool added a WHOPPING $8 TRILLION MORE!!!!   And, years 2006-2010 we had a Democrat House and a Democrat Senate with large majorities.  From $9 trillion to $17 trillion in 4 short years of an incompetent,  and the Libs are griping because folks want negotiation before we allow more?

     

     

     




     

    If you can't even be honest with yourself about the impact that the Bush tax cuts, the wars, and the economic downturn had on the national debt, then I think we're done here.  There's no getting thru to someone who believes that President Obama has gone on an 8 trillion dollar spending spree on his own.

     

     

     
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    Republicans are trying to get things moving along, Obama and Reid well....


    So in summary your saying....

     
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    Why do Unions, Corporations of Obama's choosing, congress and their staff get special treatment like a year delay but, the rest of the country cannot get the same courtesy!

    All republicans are saying at this point is take away the mandate for everyone not just your cronies! If, people want to voluntarily sign up fine go ahead!

    Wtmf is so bad about that??????

    The dems say "it's settled law and we will not negotiate it" but, they have changed it to give so many of their people (constituents) waivers and special considerations it's not anything like it started out as!!

     
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    Nonsense.

    The path forward is glaringly obvious (even to a growing number of House Republicans): a clean continuing resolution to fund the government, and an unconditional increase in the debt limit.

     

     




     

    Yes of course, you`re right...........(in fantasyland)

     




    Jmel.   If Republicans are serious about spending reforms, getting the budget under control and reforming the tax code, then what are they waiting for? What have they been doing for the last 4 year, other than vacations, attending fund-raisers, and wasting time and money on meaningless votes to repeal Obamacare.....something they know isn't going to happen.

     

     



    If Obama (and the Dems) were serious about anything, they would come to the table and negotiate in good faith.  There is finally a budget, after 5 years without one.  It is/was illegal that Obama didn`t have a passed budget and as you know, 2 of his proposed budgets lost in his own Democrat controlled Senate 97-0.  The only ones serious about spending reforms, budget control, and tax code, are the Republicans.

     

     "Vacations'? "Fund-raisers"?  "Wasting time and money"?  Have you been living in a vacum?  These 3 things DEFINE Obama`s existence.

     



    We know republicans want the obliteration of the ACA, but what are they offering up in this "negotiation"?

     

    Republicans haven't been serious about the budget since Reagan taught math challenged republicans that defecits don't matter.  The lion's share of the debt that America carries was amassed under GOP Presidents, not Democratic Presidents - and most specifically over the last decade, when the GOP controlled all three branches of government. During that time, GOP 'leadership' insisted on paying for unnecessary tax cuts, Medicare Part D, and elective wars on our national credit card.....to the tune of trillions.

     

     



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    Really?  Hmmmmmm...............as I recall, Obama picked up the reins in Jan/2009 with a $9 trillion national debt.  That debt was aquired from our 1st president, Washington, through our 43rd president, W-Bush.  then, in 4 short years, the current fool added a WHOPPING $8 TRILLION MORE!!!!   And, years 2006-2010 we had a Democrat House and a Democrat Senate with large majorities.  From $9 trillion to $17 trillion in 4 short years of an incompetent,  and the Libs are griping because folks want negotiation before we allow more?

     

     

     




     

    If you can't even be honest with yourself about the impact that the Bush tax cuts, the wars, and the economic downturn had on the national debt, then I think we're done here.  There's no getting thru to someone who believes that President Obama has gone on an 8 trillion dollar spending spree on his own.

     

     



    No, of course not - another epically dishonest post.  You hand a President a 1.2 trillion dollar deficit, zero percent federal funds rate, 800K jobs lost per month, and a dying economy, and then yell at him for running up the debt.

    It's going to take a while to cut into the Bush deficits, but we're on track.  The most important thing to do is keep the economy growing, something the GOP is trying to squelch at every turn.

     
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    Republicans are trying to get things moving along, Obama and Reid well....

     


    So in summary your saying....

     

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    Republicans are trying to get things moving again by cutting spending?  What's the rationale behind that?

     

     
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    Nonsense.

    The path forward is glaringly obvious (even to a growing number of House Republicans): a clean continuing resolution to fund the government, and an unconditional increase in the debt limit.

     

     




     

    Yes of course, you`re right...........(in fantasyland)

     




    Jmel.   If Republicans are serious about spending reforms, getting the budget under control and reforming the tax code, then what are they waiting for? What have they been doing for the last 4 year, other than vacations, attending fund-raisers, and wasting time and money on meaningless votes to repeal Obamacare.....something they know isn't going to happen.

     

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    What have the dems done about reforming the tax code?

     
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    Nonsense.

    The path forward is glaringly obvious (even to a growing number of House Republicans): a clean continuing resolution to fund the government, and an unconditional increase in the debt limit.

     

     




     

    Yes of course, you`re right...........(in fantasyland)

     




    Jmel.   If Republicans are serious about spending reforms, getting the budget under control and reforming the tax code, then what are they waiting for? What have they been doing for the last 4 year, other than vacations, attending fund-raisers, and wasting time and money on meaningless votes to repeal Obamacare.....something they know isn't going to happen.

     

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    What have the Democrats done in the last four years?

    I mean, other than basically go on a wild Las Vegas weekend with the people's credit card.

    Party's over, one way or another.

     
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    Nonsense.

    The path forward is glaringly obvious (even to a growing number of House Republicans): a clean continuing resolution to fund the government, and an unconditional increase in the debt limit.

     

     




     

    Yes of course, you`re right...........(in fantasyland)

     




    Jmel.   If Republicans are serious about spending reforms, getting the budget under control and reforming the tax code, then what are they waiting for? What have they been doing for the last 4 year, other than vacations, attending fund-raisers, and wasting time and money on meaningless votes to repeal Obamacare.....something they know isn't going to happen.

     

     



    If Obama (and the Dems) were serious about anything, they would come to the table and negotiate in good faith.  There is finally a budget, after 5 years without one.  It is/was illegal that Obama didn`t have a passed budget and as you know, 2 of his proposed budgets lost in his own Democrat controlled Senate 97-0.  The only ones serious about spending reforms, budget control, and tax code, are the Republicans.

     

     "Vacations'? "Fund-raisers"?  "Wasting time and money"?  Have you been living in a vacum?  These 3 things DEFINE Obama`s existence.

     



    We know republicans want the obliteration of the ACA, but what are they offering up in this "negotiation"?

     

    Republicans haven't been serious about the budget since Reagan taught math challenged republicans that defecits don't matter.  The lion's share of the debt that America carries was amassed under GOP Presidents, not Democratic Presidents - and most specifically over the last decade, when the GOP controlled all three branches of government. During that time, GOP 'leadership' insisted on paying for unnecessary tax cuts, Medicare Part D, and elective wars on our national credit card.....to the tune of trillions.

     

     



    (QUOTE)

     

    Really?  Hmmmmmm...............as I recall, Obama picked up the reins in Jan/2009 with a $9 trillion national debt.  That debt was aquired from our 1st president, Washington, through our 43rd president, W-Bush.  then, in 4 short years, the current fool added a WHOPPING $8 TRILLION MORE!!!!   And, years 2006-2010 we had a Democrat House and a Democrat Senate with large majorities.  From $9 trillion to $17 trillion in 4 short years of an incompetent,  and the Libs are griping because folks want negotiation before we allow more?

     

     

     




     

    If you can't even be honest with yourself about the impact that the Bush tax cuts, the wars, and the economic downturn had on the national debt, then I think we're done here.  There's no getting thru to someone who believes that President Obama has gone on an 8 trillion dollar spending spree on his own.

     

     

     



    No, of course not - another epically dishonest post.  You hand a President a 1.2 trillion dollar deficit, zero percent federal funds rate, 800K jobs lost per month, and a dying economy, and then yell at him for running up the debt.

     

    It's going to take a while to cut into the Bush deficits, but we're on track.  The most important thing to do is keep the economy growing, something the GOP is trying to squelch at every turn.

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    You are incorrect in terms of economics.  Simpilest explanation:

    Receipts have remained relatives static for the past 11 years, spending has continued to rise.

    If Obama was serisouly trying to fix the situation, he would have turned off the radio, and yelled at every one that the party is over.  

    He hasn't. He called the liquir store, or  in his case, the local choom gang and told them to bring everything to the house, becasue, the patree is just getting started!! (in his mind)

     
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    Republicans are trying to get things moving along, Obama and Reid well....
    ....It's our way or the highway, and then we'll talk.
     
    SEPTEMBER 20, 2013

    Continuing resolution (H.J. Res. 59): keeps the government running at current spending levels and strengthens our economy by defunding the president’ health care law. (Passed in the House 230-189)

    SEPTEMBER 28, 2013

    Continuing resolution (H.J. Res. 59): keeps the government running at current spending levels and strengthens our economy by delaying the president’s health care law by one year, and permanently repealing ObamaCare’s tax on pacemakers and children’s hearing aids. (Amendment #1 Passed 248-174 | Amendment #2 Passed 231-192)

    Pay Our Military Act (H.R. 3210): ensures our troops would be paid in the event of a government shutdown. (Passed in the House 423-0)

    SEPTEMBER 30, 2013

    Continuing resolution (H.J. Res. 59): keeps the government running at current spending levels; ensures there’s no special treatment for Congress under the president’s health care law; and delays ObamaCare’s individual mandate, providing all Americans with the same relief the president has given big businesses. (Passed in the House 228-201)

    Continuing resolution (H. Res. 368): insists on plan to fund the government running at current spending levels; ensure there’s no special treatment for Congress under the president’s health care law; delays ObamaCare’s individual mandate, providing all Americans with the same relief the president has given big businesses; and requests a formal House-Senate conference to resolve differences. (Passed in the House 228-199)

    OCTOBER 2, 2013

    Provide Local Funding for the District of Columbia Act (H.J. Res. 71): allows our nation’s capital to continue operating using its own funding. (Passed in the House by voice vote).

    Open Our Nation's Parks and Museums Act (H.J. Res. 70): opens all of our national parks and museums, including the WWII Memorial in Washington, DC that was initially closed to veterans by the administration. (Passed in the House 252-173)

    Research for Lifesaving Cures Act (H.J. Res. 73): provides funding for the National Institute of Health, which is responsible for lifesaving medical innovations and cancer research. Click here to see Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid's (D-NV) comments about this effort. (Passed in the House 254-171)

    OCTOBER 3, 2013

    Pay Our Guard and Reserve Act (H.R. 3230): ensures the government shutdown doesn’t affect pay for our National Guard and Reserve. (Passed in the House 265-160)
    - See more at:

    Honoring Our Promise to America’s Veterans Act (H.J. Res. 72): provides immediate funding for critical veterans benefits and services, including disability claims, education and training, and more. (Passed in the House 259-157)

    OCTOBER 4, 2013

    National Emergency and Disaster Recovery Act (H.J. Res 85): provides immediate funding for the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA). (Passed in the House 247-164)

    Nutrition Assistance for Low-Income Women and Children Act (H.J. Res. 75): provides immediate funding for the Special Supplemental Nutrition Program for Women, Infants, and Children, which “serves nearly 9 million mothers and young children,” and provides “vital nutrition that poor families might otherwise be unable to afford.” (Passed in the House 244-164)

    OCTOBER 5, 2013

    Federal Employee Retroactive Pay Fairness Act (H.R. 3223): provides for compensation of federal employees furloughed due to Senate Democrats' government shutdown. This is similar to bipartisan legislation enacted during previous shutdowns. (Passed in the House 407-0)

    OCTOBER 7, 2013

    Food and Drug Safety Act (H.J.Res. 77): provides immediate funding for the Food and Drug Administration. (Passed in the House 235-162)

    OCTOBER 8, 2013

    Head Start for Low-Income Children Act (H.J.Res. 84): provides critical education funding to support Head Start programs across the country. (Passed in the House 248-168)

    Deficit Reduction and Economic Growth Working Group Act (H.R. 3273): creates a bipartisan, bicameral working group charged with beginning negotiations, resolving the differences between the House and Senate, and helping re-open the government and address our debt. (Passed in the House 224-197)

    Federal Worker Pay Fairness Act (H.J. Res. 89): ensures that federal employees who are still on the job during Democrats' shutdown are paid on time. (Passed in the House 420-0)

    The only piece of legislation the Senate took up and that Obama signed is the Pay Our Military Act, everything else has been rejected.



    Conservatives always gloss over the fact that the September 20 CR passed the Senate with amendments.  And the amended version would pass the House if they were allowed to vote on it.  So why should the Senate vote on a new CR until the CR they already approved gets a vote? And why should Boehner be making any demands if he doesn't even have majority support in the House?

    The bottom line is the Republicans are not going to be rewarded for this tactic, and the longer it goes on the more it hurts them.  Maybe it hurts the Dems too, but I think most people in the know realize this is all the result of tea party crazies taking over the GOP.  And those who are not in the know will still see shouting matches between their congressman and some lunatic primary challenger dressed like Paul Revere.

    In other words, not only is it a bad idea to negotiate because of the precedent it sets, but it's a bad idea politically for Obama and the Dems.  

     

     

     

     
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    Nonsense.

    The path forward is glaringly obvious (even to a growing number of House Republicans): a clean continuing resolution to fund the government, and an unconditional increase in the debt limit.

     

     




     

    Yes of course, you`re right...........(in fantasyland)

     




    Jmel.   If Republicans are serious about spending reforms, getting the budget under control and reforming the tax code, then what are they waiting for? What have they been doing for the last 4 year, other than vacations, attending fund-raisers, and wasting time and money on meaningless votes to repeal Obamacare.....something they know isn't going to happen.

     

     



    If Obama (and the Dems) were serious about anything, they would come to the table and negotiate in good faith.  There is finally a budget, after 5 years without one.  It is/was illegal that Obama didn`t have a passed budget and as you know, 2 of his proposed budgets lost in his own Democrat controlled Senate 97-0.  The only ones serious about spending reforms, budget control, and tax code, are the Republicans.

     

     "Vacations'? "Fund-raisers"?  "Wasting time and money"?  Have you been living in a vacum?  These 3 things DEFINE Obama`s existence.

     



    We know republicans want the obliteration of the ACA, but what are they offering up in this "negotiation"?

     

    Republicans haven't been serious about the budget since Reagan taught math challenged republicans that defecits don't matter.  The lion's share of the debt that America carries was amassed under GOP Presidents, not Democratic Presidents - and most specifically over the last decade, when the GOP controlled all three branches of government. During that time, GOP 'leadership' insisted on paying for unnecessary tax cuts, Medicare Part D, and elective wars on our national credit card.....to the tune of trillions.

     

     



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    Really?  Hmmmmmm...............as I recall, Obama picked up the reins in Jan/2009 with a $9 trillion national debt.  That debt was aquired from our 1st president, Washington, through our 43rd president, W-Bush.  then, in 4 short years, the current fool added a WHOPPING $8 TRILLION MORE!!!!   And, years 2006-2010 we had a Democrat House and a Democrat Senate with large majorities.  From $9 trillion to $17 trillion in 4 short years of an incompetent,  and the Libs are griping because folks want negotiation before we allow more?

     

     

     




     

    If you can't even be honest with yourself about the impact that the Bush tax cuts, the wars, and the economic downturn had on the national debt, then I think we're done here.  There's no getting thru to someone who believes that President Obama has gone on an 8 trillion dollar spending spree on his own.

     

     

     

     



    No, of course not - another epically dishonest post.  You hand a President a 1.2 trillion dollar deficit, zero percent federal funds rate, 800K jobs lost per month, and a dying economy, and then yell at him for running up the debt.

     

     

    It's going to take a while to cut into the Bush deficits, but we're on track.  The most important thing to do is keep the economy growing, something the GOP is trying to squelch at every turn.



    You are incorrect in terms of economics.  Simpilest explanation:

     

    Receipts have remained relatives static for the past 11 years, spending has continued to rise.

    If Obama was serisouly trying to fix the situation, he would have turned off the radio, and yelled at every one that the party is over.  

    He hasn't. He called the liquir store, or  in his case, the local choom gang and told them to bring everything to the house, becasue, the patree is just getting started!! (in his mind)



    You're wrong.  Receipts have not remained static.  They have been decimated.  Follow the link and let it sink in.  Recent reciepts are down 25% from where they have historically been.

    http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/taxfacts/displayafact.cfm?Docid=205

     

     
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    Nonsense.

    The path forward is glaringly obvious (even to a growing number of House Republicans): a clean continuing resolution to fund the government, and an unconditional increase in the debt limit.

     

     




     

    Yes of course, you`re right...........(in fantasyland)

     




    Jmel.   If Republicans are serious about spending reforms, getting the budget under control and reforming the tax code, then what are they waiting for? What have they been doing for the last 4 year, other than vacations, attending fund-raisers, and wasting time and money on meaningless votes to repeal Obamacare.....something they know isn't going to happen.

     

     



    If Obama (and the Dems) were serious about anything, they would come to the table and negotiate in good faith.  There is finally a budget, after 5 years without one.  It is/was illegal that Obama didn`t have a passed budget and as you know, 2 of his proposed budgets lost in his own Democrat controlled Senate 97-0.  The only ones serious about spending reforms, budget control, and tax code, are the Republicans.

     

     "Vacations'? "Fund-raisers"?  "Wasting time and money"?  Have you been living in a vacum?  These 3 things DEFINE Obama`s existence.

     



    We know republicans want the obliteration of the ACA, but what are they offering up in this "negotiation"?

     

    Republicans haven't been serious about the budget since Reagan taught math challenged republicans that defecits don't matter.  The lion's share of the debt that America carries was amassed under GOP Presidents, not Democratic Presidents - and most specifically over the last decade, when the GOP controlled all three branches of government. During that time, GOP 'leadership' insisted on paying for unnecessary tax cuts, Medicare Part D, and elective wars on our national credit card.....to the tune of trillions.

     

     



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    Really?  Hmmmmmm...............as I recall, Obama picked up the reins in Jan/2009 with a $9 trillion national debt.  That debt was aquired from our 1st president, Washington, through our 43rd president, W-Bush.  then, in 4 short years, the current fool added a WHOPPING $8 TRILLION MORE!!!!   And, years 2006-2010 we had a Democrat House and a Democrat Senate with large majorities.  From $9 trillion to $17 trillion in 4 short years of an incompetent,  and the Libs are griping because folks want negotiation before we allow more?

     

     

     




     

    If you can't even be honest with yourself about the impact that the Bush tax cuts, the wars, and the economic downturn had on the national debt, then I think we're done here.  There's no getting thru to someone who believes that President Obama has gone on an 8 trillion dollar spending spree on his own.

     

     

     

     



    No, of course not - another epically dishonest post.  You hand a President a 1.2 trillion dollar deficit, zero percent federal funds rate, 800K jobs lost per month, and a dying economy, and then yell at him for running up the debt.

     

     

    It's going to take a while to cut into the Bush deficits, but we're on track.  The most important thing to do is keep the economy growing, something the GOP is trying to squelch at every turn.

     

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    You are incorrect in terms of economics.  Simpilest explanation:

     

    Receipts have remained relatives static for the past 11 years, spending has continued to rise.

    If Obama was serisouly trying to fix the situation, he would have turned off the radio, and yelled at every one that the party is over.  

    He hasn't. He called the liquir store, or  in his case, the local choom gang and told them to bring everything to the house, becasue, the patree is just getting started!! (in his mind)

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    I think you mean a simplistic explanation.  Of course federal spending will increase with population growth.

    GDP is up 70% in the past 11 years, yet receipts stay the same.  We have nearly twice the wealth in the economy, but no more tax revenue.  

    Republicans took us from a budget surplus to a 1.2 trillion dollar deficit, and then they used the debt ceiling to get what they wanted.  That's like if I shoot you in the face and then send you a bill for my dry-cleaning.

     

     
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    What's the rationale behind that?....

     
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    These are not serious proposals and the intent of them isn't to reopen government, it is to dig in and insist on the same thing in different ways.  Defunding Obamacare is a nonstarter, removing the individual mandate is a nonstarter (without it theprogram collaspes, the GOP knows this, so the idea is disengenous), delaying for one year is a nonstarter because that pushes full implementation into an election year where legislative shenanigans would be more likely to occur.  The mimi CR's only serve to give the GOP cover and will inevitably delay passing the CR that has been out there, that Boehner won't bring to a vote.  If the house isn't even willing to put the original CR up for a vote, then why entertain other proposals?  Boehner and co are asking the Dems to negotiate against themselves.  

     
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    So in summary your saying....

     

     

     

     

     

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    Republicans are trying to get things moving again by cutting spending?  What's the rationale behind that?

     

     

     

     

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    What's the rationale behind that?....

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    OK, I agree we have to do something about all the debt the Republicans created, but how does tightening the belt 'move things along'?

     

     
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    These are not serious proposals and the intent of them isn't to reopen government, it is to dig in and insist on the same thing in different ways.  Defunding Obamacare (NO ONE IS SAYING DEFUND, DELAY LIKE WAS DONE FOR MILLIONS OF DEM CRONIES)  is a nonstarter, removing the individual mandate is a nonstarter (without it the program collaspes, the GOP knows this, so the idea is disengenous), delaying for one year is a nonstarter because that pushes full implementation into an election year where legislative shenanigans would be more likely to occur. (IT DIDNT SEEM TO BE A BIG DEAL FOR DEMS WHEN THEY DELAYED IT FOR UNIONS AND CORPORATIONS AND GAVE CONGRESS AND THEIR AIDS SPECIAL CONSIDERATION)   The mimi CR's only serve to give the GOP cover and will inevitably delay passing the CR that has been out there, that Boehner won't bring to a vote.  If the house isn't even willing to put the original CR up for a vote, then why entertain other proposals?  Boehner and co are asking the Dems to negotiate against themselves.  

    ITS NOT ABOUT BOEHNER AND REPUBLICANS! ITS ABOUT THE 10'S OF MILLIONS OF CITIZENS THEY REPRESENT, THAT HAVE SENT MANY SIGNED PETITIONS WITH MILLIONS OF SIGNATURES DEMANDING THEY DO THIS!!!

     




     
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    Republicans are trying to get things moving along, Obama and Reid well....

     

     

     


    So in summary your saying....

     

     

     

     



    Republicans are trying to get things moving again by cutting spending?  What's the rationale behind that?

     

     

     

     


    What's the rationale behind that?....

     




     

    First, families have to pay back their debt. Governments don’t — all they need to do is ensure that debt grows more slowly than their tax base. The debt from World War II was never repaid; it just became increasingly irrelevant as the U.S. economy grew, and with it the income subject to taxation.

    Second — an over-borrowed family owes money to someone else; U.S. debt is, to a large extent, money we owe to ourselves.

    Debt definately matters. But right now, other things matter more. We need more, not less, government spending to get us out of our unemployment trap and the obsession over the debt is getting in the way of that.

     

     
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    Nonsense.

    The path forward is glaringly obvious (even to a growing number of House Republicans): a clean continuing resolution to fund the government, and an unconditional increase in the debt limit.

     

     




     

    Yes of course, you`re right...........(in fantasyland)

     




    Jmel.   If Republicans are serious about spending reforms, getting the budget under control and reforming the tax code, then what are they waiting for? What have they been doing for the last 4 year, other than vacations, attending fund-raisers, and wasting time and money on meaningless votes to repeal Obamacare.....something they know isn't going to happen.

     

     



    If Obama (and the Dems) were serious about anything, they would come to the table and negotiate in good faith.  There is finally a budget, after 5 years without one.  It is/was illegal that Obama didn`t have a passed budget and as you know, 2 of his proposed budgets lost in his own Democrat controlled Senate 97-0.  The only ones serious about spending reforms, budget control, and tax code, are the Republicans.

     

     "Vacations'? "Fund-raisers"?  "Wasting time and money"?  Have you been living in a vacum?  These 3 things DEFINE Obama`s existence.

     



    We know republicans want the obliteration of the ACA, but what are they offering up in this "negotiation"?

     

    Republicans haven't been serious about the budget since Reagan taught math challenged republicans that defecits don't matter.  The lion's share of the debt that America carries was amassed under GOP Presidents, not Democratic Presidents - and most specifically over the last decade, when the GOP controlled all three branches of government. During that time, GOP 'leadership' insisted on paying for unnecessary tax cuts, Medicare Part D, and elective wars on our national credit card.....to the tune of trillions.

     

     



    (QUOTE)

     

    Really?  Hmmmmmm...............as I recall, Obama picked up the reins in Jan/2009 with a $9 trillion national debt.  That debt was aquired from our 1st president, Washington, through our 43rd president, W-Bush.  then, in 4 short years, the current fool added a WHOPPING $8 TRILLION MORE!!!!   And, years 2006-2010 we had a Democrat House and a Democrat Senate with large majorities.  From $9 trillion to $17 trillion in 4 short years of an incompetent,  and the Libs are griping because folks want negotiation before we allow more?

     

     

     




     

    If you can't even be honest with yourself about the impact that the Bush tax cuts, the wars, and the economic downturn had on the national debt, then I think we're done here.  There's no getting thru to someone who believes that President Obama has gone on an 8 trillion dollar spending spree on his own.

     

     

     

     



    No, of course not - another epically dishonest post.  You hand a President a 1.2 trillion dollar deficit, zero percent federal funds rate, 800K jobs lost per month, and a dying economy, and then yell at him for running up the debt.

     

     

    It's going to take a while to cut into the Bush deficits, but we're on track.  The most important thing to do is keep the economy growing, something the GOP is trying to squelch at every turn.



    You are incorrect in terms of economics.  Simpilest explanation:

     

    Receipts have remained relatives static for the past 11 years, spending has continued to rise.

    If Obama was serisouly trying to fix the situation, he would have turned off the radio, and yelled at every one that the party is over.  

    He hasn't. He called the liquir store, or  in his case, the local choom gang and told them to bring everything to the house, becasue, the patree is just getting started!! (in his mind)

     



    You're wrong.  Receipts have not remained static.  They have been decimated.  Follow the link and let it sink in.  Recent reciepts are down 25% from where they have historically been.

     

    http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/taxfacts/displayafact.cfm?Docid=205

     

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    They haven't been decimated. You should 1) learn to read the chart, and, 2) accept that I was making a general statement, and, 3) look at it in terms go GDP.

    but, even if it is going down, it further makes my point: revenue is not keeping pace with spending. WE have a SPENDING problem.

    The party is over, we have drained the liquor cabinet and destroyed the house.  Borrowing more money just keeps the same dysfunctional party going for a bit longer.

     
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    So in summary your saying....

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

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    Ahhh, simple analogies for simple minds.

     

    So where is the budget for the police to not only protect your home but your neighbors home, heck the entire neighborhoods home? Not to mention the homes of relatives that live in other towns.

    And where does the budget for the grandparents to live on? Where is their medical coverage costs?

    And why aren't you budgeting to build and fix the road that you need to drive on in order to get to work? And of course you'll have to build the roads for everyone else to get to work too because you wouldn't have a company without people working.

    Maybe your healthcare is included in your budget but what about the cost to keep your doctor on the cutting edge of medicine. The cost associated with developing the new drugs and procedures that you will eventually need to stay healthy.

     

    Ya, it's the same....

    Freakin hilarious.

     

     

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    It seems like an apt analogy.

     

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