Memo gives GOP marching orders; orders already followed to some extent here.

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    WASHINGTON — The memo distributed to House Republicans this week was concise and blunt, listing talking points and marching orders: “Because of Obamacare, I Lost My Insurance.” “Obamacare Increases Health Care Costs.” “The Exchanges May Not Be Secure, Putting Personal Information at Risk.” “Continue Collecting Constituent Stories.”

     

     

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    So, let me get this straight:  The Obamacare web site is secure?  How does it do that when the project manager announced it was not secure?

    Same with Obamacare driving up costs.  Are you saying adding more coverage magically lowers costs?  What about what people are reporting?  which brings us to:

    Collecting constiuent stores is now some sort of political crime?  Tell that to Liz Warren who referred to "Mary Doe" in Lawrence, who would starve if not for the meals on wheels provided to her by Liz Warren/Joe Kennedy/"insert Democrat here".  Dems have been using this personal story approach for years, and I have got to tell you, it is effective.  So, now that the Republicans have finally decided to tells some constituent stories, it's not allowed.

    My favorite personal stories are the progressives that, thogh they are for Obamacare, didn't think it was going to effect them, personally, you know.  Those are just killers.

    I guess you are right.  We can just shorten what the Republicans are telling their members to the following:

    Just tell the truth.

    Now, THAT'S why the progressives are mad.

     
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    WASHINGTON — The memo distributed to House Republicans this week was concise and blunt, listing talking points and marching orders: “Because of Obamacare, I Lost My Insurance.” “Obamacare Increases Health Care Costs.” “The Exchanges May Not Be Secure, Putting Personal Information at Risk.” “Continue Collecting Constituent Stories.”

    The document, the product of a series of closed-door strategy sessions that began in mid-October, is part of an increasingly organized Republican attack on the Affordable Care Act, President Obama’s signature legislative initiative. Republican strategists say that over the next several months, they intend to keep Democrats on their heels through a multilayered, sequenced assault.

    The idea is to gather stories of people affected by the health care law — through social media, letters from constituents, or meetings during visits back home — and use them to open a line of attack, keep it going until it enters the public discourse and forces a response, then quickly pivot to the next topic.

    For a House more used to disarray than methodical game plans, the success so far has been something of a surprise, even to the campaign’s organizers.

    “Yeah, there is a method being followed here,” said Representative Michael C. Burgess, a Texas Republican involved in the effort, “but, really, these stories are creating themselves.”

    First it was the malfunctioning website, HealthCare.gov, then millions of insurance policy cancellation notices sent to individuals with plans that did not meet the requirements of the health law. Earlier this week, the House aired allegations that personal data is insecure on the Internet-based insurance exchanges.

    At a congressional field hearing set for Friday in Gastonia, N.C., the line of attack will shift to rate shocks expected to jolt the insurance markets in the next two years. Coming soon: a push to highlight people losing access to their longtime physicians and changes in Medicare Advantage programs for older people.

    The effort has its roots in a strategy developed last spring, when House Republican leaders — plagued by party divisions that were thwarting legislative accomplishments — refocused the House’s committees on oversight rather than on the development of new policies.

    Rob Borden, a general counsel to Representative Darrell Issa of California, the chairman of the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform, moved to a newly created position that reported jointly to Speaker John A. Boehner and Representative Eric Cantor of Virginia, the majority leader. Mr. Borden’s task was to coordinate and monitor oversight activities across separate committees to make sure they are not overlapping or undercutting one another.

    That aggressive campaign, which produced numerous hearings on the attacks in Benghazi, Libya, as well as on I.R.S. scrutiny of conservative groups, is now increasingly consumed by the health care fight. House Republican leaders empowered four committees — oversight, Ways and Means, Energy and Commerce, and Education and the Workforce — to take the lead, with support from other panels, such as the Science and Homeland Security Committees, which have examined computer security.

    Mr. Cantor and Representative Cathy McMorris Rodgers of Washington, another member of the Republican leadership, have also leaned on all 231 House Republicans. A 17-page “House Republican Playbook” walks members through “messaging tools” like talking points, social media tactics and “digital fliers”; details lines of attack; offers up a sample opinion article for local newspapers; and provides an extensive timeline on the health care law and an exhaustive list of legislative responses that have gone nowhere.

    A message of the week is presented to the Republican members at the beginning of each week, Ms. McMorris Rodgers said. A “Call to Action” email chain distributes relevant breaking news. A new website, gop.gov/yourstory, is collecting anecdotes from each member.

    The goal, according to Ms. McMorris Rodgers, is to use all the “Republican voices we have in the House, the media markets in all the districts we represent, to take our message all over the country.”

    “It penetrates,” she said. “It’s powerful.”

    To Democrats, especially in the White House, the power of the effort stems from using anecdotes to paint a fundamentally misleading picture.

    “There’s been so much noise and so much misinformation, and this incredible organized effort to block the notion that everybody should have affordable health care in this country,” President Obama told supporters of the health care law this month, “that I think it’s important for us to step back and take a look at what’s already been accomplished, because a lot of times it doesn’t make news. Controversies make news.”

    Republicans have gone to the floor of the House and the Senate to tell constituent stories of soaring premiums or yawning new deductibles. But on Wednesday, the White House Council of Economic Advisers released a report showing that health care spending had grown by 1.3 percent since 2010, the year the health care law passed. That is the lowest rate on record for any three-year period and less than a third of the average since 1965, according to the White House.

    Jason Furman, the council’s chairman, said much of that slowdown was attributable to structural changes in the health care economy ushered in by the health law, such as accountable care organizations, which band general practitioners, specialists and hospitals together to plan out a patient’s care, not play off one another to raise their billing. And insurance premiums on plans offered through the exchanges are lower than expected.

    Congressional Democrats are trying to use such information and their own anecdotes to counter Republican attacks. Under the rubric of “This Is Obamacare” — with its own website of the same name, created by the Democratic National Committee — Democrats have been sharing “Affordable Care Act success stories” of ailing constituents getting health coverage for the first time, people being allowed to keep their adult children on their insurance, or consumers finding markedly cheaper insurance plans on the exchanges.

    But Republicans are already looking ahead to next year, when they expect a raft of new issues as people start using their new health plans.

    “We’re trying to stay as agile as we can,” said Brendan Buck, a spokesman for Mr. Boehner. “We know what issues are coming. We know what the consequences will be. We can’t say when they will pop exactly, but we’re prepared to talk about them.”

    Four House Republicans will host Google hangouts on Thursday, employing social media to troll for stories from their constituents.

    Representative John Shimkus, Republican of Illinois, who will host a hangout on Thursday with Representative Fred Upton of Michigan, the chairman of the Energy and Commerce Committee, said the hangout appeared on his calendar with no warning from the leadership. He ran into Mr. Upton on Wednesday morning and confessed his surprise.

    “He said, ‘Hey, we’re going to do that thing tomorrow,’ and I said, ‘Yeah, I’ve never done one before,’ and he said, ‘Neither have I,’ ” Mr. Shimkus said, laughing. “I’m not that hip, but I guess I’m getting there.”

     

     

     

    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/21/us/politics/gop-maps-out-waves-of-attacks-over-health-law.html?pagewanted=2&rref=politics&hpw&_r=0

     

     

     Hey wait a minute. What's this "liberal rag" doing mentioning the negative news that actually is real about Obamacare? I thought they never said anything bad if it was related to Obama.

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    When the story becomes too big they have to. They still have to sell papers. But they would almost never be the ones leading the charge or doing the digging on a negative story.

     
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    They are long way from being as organized and unified on slander as the dems but, they are trying.

     
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    Typical.....roll out a massive propaganda campaign chocked full of anecdotes, half-truths, and disinformation.

    Same tired playbook they've uses for decades to oppose anything that helps the average citizen.

     

     
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    Typical.....roll out a massive propaganda campaign chocked full of anecdotes, half-truths, and disinformation.

    Same tired playbook they've uses for decades to oppose anything that helps the average citizen.

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    The average citizen is screwed by the Government. The best thing the Government can do to help the average citizen is leave him or her the hell alone.

    "Anecdotes, half truths and disinformation by the GOP on ObamaCare? Dont think so.

    Even if this were so, it sure beats pure 100%  unadulterated falsehoods disseminated knowingly by the President and Democrats.

     
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    I don't suppose any conservatives want to stop shooting the messenger long enough to comment on how the GOP keeps manufacturing 'outrage' with these decrees to the rank and file.

     

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    What you call "manufacturing outrage" for this when dems do it it's referred to as unified behind this message!

    lol you are a piece of work.

     
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    The NY Times carefully detailed and listed the  GOP talking points to be used... obviously no need to detail the progressive talking points, just read the  NY Times. 

     
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    I don't suppose any conservatives want to stop shooting the messenger long enough to comment on how the GOP keeps manufacturing 'outrage' with these decrees to the rank and file.

     

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    What you call "manufacturing outrage" for this when dems do it it's referred to as unified behind this message!

    lol you are a piece of work.

     
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    I don't suppose any conservatives want to stop shooting the messenger long enough to comment on how the GOP keeps manufacturing 'outrage' with these decrees to the rank and file.

     

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    Is your contention that the republican party is the only party that communicates within the party what areas to attack the other party on?? And what phrases to use??

    really??

     
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    I am shocked, SHOCKED, that the Republican party is engaging in politics. Shame on them. You'd think that they're trying to be a real political party. Or something.

     

     
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    Is your contention that the republican party is the only party that communicates within the party what areas to attack the other party on?

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    If that was my contention I would have said it. This is what I said instead:

    I don't suppose any conservatives want to stop shooting the messenger long enough to comment on how the GOP keeps manufacturing 'outrage' with these decrees to the rank and file. 

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    My Comment: Its nothing new, and the GOP keeps doing it, just like the DNC keeps doing it.

    Next

     
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    My Comment: Its nothing new, and the GOP keeps doing it, just like the DNC keeps doing it.

     

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    And of course, you'll forget about this when you start your next ten threads saying exactly what the memo commands you to say. Right?

     

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    Yes because of course we all got the memo that was distributed among House Republican's. How do you make it through the day with seriously injuring yourself?

     
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    "whoosh"

     

    Now let me save you the trouble: sigh, BWA, facepalm, internet tough guy, crying, sigh, F5, F23.

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    There is no F23...only goes up to 12...

     
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    Killer.

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    Gnarly.

     
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    And of course, you'll forget about this when you start your next ten threads saying exactly what the memo commands you to say. Right?

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    This does not in any way make the topics taboo or "used" and therefore not good for more discussion.

    lol

     
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    Still not the point...heh....

    When your posts match the party line verbatim (occasional declarations that they all are bad aside) and you haven't added any additional insights or analysis of your own....well...

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    lol, tired of hearing how wrong you've been and all the bad things come to light about your prez huh? I get that

     

     
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    That's our President.

    And it didn't have to be that way. But the party you support was too demented to run a sane R I could vote for, like Huntsman.

     Instead it was a "severe conservative."

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    Im not arguing that but, this next year imho is going to be brutal for you diehard supporters.

    js, you reap what you sow

     
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    you diehard supporters.

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    LOL.

    Yeah. Every time I've called Obama a "turd sandwich", it's praise. Right?

     womp-womp

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    You think you are clever by throwing meaningless token of something "if" he did blah blah blah

    You cant hide from you or the truth

     
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    Speaking of marching orders...

    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2013/11/21/Obama-woos-liberal-journalists

    Another "off the record" meeting with friendly "journalists" at the White House for the leader of the most transparent administration in history.

     

     
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    Speaking of marching orders...

    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2013/11/21/Obama-woos-liberal-journalists

    Another "off the record" meeting with friendly "journalists" at the White House for the leader of the most transparent administration in history.

     

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    SB,

    Breit Bart is a "friendly"? Breit Bart of FOX News Breit Bart?

    Have I missed something?

     
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    Yeah, politics is not supposed to involve marching orders....like all the librul tools that are now refering to Obamacare as Affordable Care Act so as not separate their dear leader from the disaster that has exposed the fallacy of progressive policies.

     

    Obamacare - Bush's fault.

     
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    Speaking of marching orders...

    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2013/11/21/Obama-woos-liberal-journalists

    Another "off the record" meeting with friendly "journalists" at the White House for the leader of the most transparent administration in history.

     

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    SB,

    Breit Bart is a "friendly"? Breit Bart of FOX News Breit Bart?

    Have I missed something?

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    Yes andie, I do believe you have missed something.

     

     
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    Speaking of marching orders...

    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2013/11/21/Obama-woos-liberal-journalists

    Another "off the record" meeting with friendly "journalists" at the White House for the leader of the most transparent administration in history.

     

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    SB,

    Breit Bart is a "friendly"? Breit Bart of FOX News Breit Bart?

    Have I missed something?

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    Yes andie, I do believe you have missed something.

     

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    SB,

    Heh. Would you please tell me what it is? Seriously, Bart is a reporter on FOX not MSNBC so I would not consider inviting him for an interview as a softball interview to a friendly.

    So, I honestly do not see how Bart fits into that scenario, SB.

    If I have done something to offend you, so you do not think I deserve anything more that a "flip" reply, please tell me what it was so we can work it out.

     
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    Yeah, politics is not supposed to involve marching orders....like all the librul tools that are now refering to Obamacare as Affordable Care Act so as not separate their dear leader from the disaster that has exposed the fallacy of progressive policies.

     

    Obamacare - Bush's fault.

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    Hansoribrother,

    The actual name of the legislation is 'The Affordable Care Act" not "Obamacare". Obamacare is the nickname the GOP gave the act.

    Over time, the President and the Democrats just decided to go along with the nickname.

    I will concede the GOP is really really good at names and nicknames. You know, names like "death panels" are one of my all time favorites. 

    I will also concede the website has been a disaster pretty much, but, the President did not promise to build a great website, which will get fixed, he promised to fix the health insurance problem the country had.

    So call it what you will, it is a lot better then what we had and where we were headed. 

     

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