R: "War on the Poor"

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    There is a "war on the poor".  Romney's 47% percent comment captured it, as does the the misleading stat that conservatives are touting that says 108 million people don't work (the measurement takes into account at least 1 person in a household receiving benefits.)  To that point you could have a family with two working parents and a foster child who receives benefits because no parent is available to provide child support and everyone in the household gets counted.  You could have a couple with one person retired and receiving social security and they both get counted.  

    The insidious nature of how these stats are sold to the public is to simultaneously declare your constituents to be virtuous and hard working (even though republicans and democrats alike partake in government benefits) while declaring the other side to be moochers, takers, and what not.  

    Meanwhile folks who work hard for meager earnings are marginalized because they may in fact work full time but don't make enough to take care of their needs.  Who saw McD's tell a worker to apply for food stamps to augment her salary.  So is that woman a "taker"?  Some will say get a better job, while ignoring that every job market is robust and that "getting a better job" may not be possible at a given moment.  So then they say "go to college" but as we all know funding for education has been slashed almost everywhere and college tuition is still going up, never mind the need for practical considerations like day care prevent people from returning to or going to school.  

     
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    War n the Poor? What a crock of shiite.

    There are people who are really needy.

    There are people who are really shiftless layabouts.

    The government makes virtually no attempt to distinguish the two. Now who does that hurt? It hurts the people who really need help because their resources are stolen by the immoral layabouts.

    Instead of whining "War on the Poor" the libruls should demand that governement fully scrutinize the eligibilty of applicants for public benefits.

    BUt of course that would deny their politicians the means of buying votes from the layabouts.

    In the end, the result of all these programs is failure and increasing costs. 

     
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    In response to MattyScornD's comment:
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    In response to ComingLiberalCrackup's comment:
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    In response to MattyScornD's comment:
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    To anyone who's been paying attention:

    What else is new...?

     

    Kasich is trying to do right by his entire constituency.  

     

    Some other govs should do the same by expanding care options for their populations...

    ...and perhaps not forcefully take away health care services for people (i.e., women in texas) who really want and need them.

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    Yes, more Obamacare is what we all need. 

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    Apparently, it is...given that conservatism has utterly failed to deal with the problem in any constructive way.

    Again, re: texas...why do conservatives want people to have less health care...??

     

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    You fool.

    you are behaving like Bill Ayres.  It is ok to hurt people as long as the progressive agenda advances.

     
  4. You have chosen to ignore posts from skeeter20. Show skeeter20's posts

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    In response to DamainAllen's comment:
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    There is a "war on the poor".  Romney's 47% percent comment captured it, as does the the misleading stat that conservatives are touting that says 108 million people don't work (the measurement takes into account at least 1 person in a household receiving benefits.)  To that point you could have a family with two working parents and a foster child who receives benefits because no parent is available to provide child support and everyone in the household gets counted.  You could have a couple with one person retired and receiving social security and they both get counted.  

    The insidious nature of how these stats are sold to the public is to simultaneously declare your constituents to be virtuous and hard working (even though republicans and democrats alike partake in government benefits) while declaring the other side to be moochers, takers, and what not.  

    Meanwhile folks who work hard for meager earnings are marginalized because they may in fact work full time but don't make enough to take care of their needs.  Who saw McD's tell a worker to apply for food stamps to augment her salary.  So is that woman a "taker"?  Some will say get a better job, while ignoring that every job market is robust and that "getting a better job" may not be possible at a given moment.  So then they say "go to college" but as we all know funding for education has been slashed almost everywhere and college tuition is still going up, never mind the need for practical considerations like day care prevent people from returning to or going to school.  

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    There is no war on the poor.  Kasich is wrong and you are wrong.

    i am so sick and tired of progressives trying to guilt us into spending other people's money, while history shows their wallets are tighter than ft. Knox.

     

     
  5. You have chosen to ignore posts from skeeter20. Show skeeter20's posts

    Re: R:

    In response to MattyScornD's comment:
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    To anyone who's been paying attention:

    What else is new...?

     

    Kasich is trying to do right by his entire constituency.  

     

    Some other govs should do the same by expanding care options for their populations...

    ...and perhaps not forcefully take away health care services for people (i.e., women in texas) who really want and need them.

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    Just more subject-changing on the part of progressives.  Can't take the heat on Obamacare falling apart.

     
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    There's a war on the poor? Does Obama know about this?

     

     
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    If there is a "War" on anyone it is a war on youth declared by libruls.

    Obamacare soaks them for insurance they don't need to pay for those who are getting subsidies and to reduce the costs of those with high claims, ie the elderly.

    They are getting hosed by Social Security and Medicare withholdings that are taken directly from their paychecks and given to, again, the elderly directly. Charles Ponzi would be proud.

    They are getting scrooed by artificially high tuition rates that are pushed higher and higher with the never ending supply of money coming from the librul programs to fund the education establishment.

    They are robbed of a decent public education by unions and bureaucrats that put job preservation ahead of quality of education.

    There's probably more but that is plenty already

     
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    In response to Hansoribrother's comment:
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    If there is a "War" on anyone it is a war on youth declared by libruls.

    Obamacare soaks them for insurance they don't need to pay for those who are getting subsidies and to reduce the costs of those with high claims, ie the elderly.

    They are getting hosed by Social Security and Medicare withholdings that are taken directly from their paychecks and given to, again, the elderly directly. Charles Ponzi would be proud.

    They are getting scrooed by artificially high tuition rates that are pushed higher and higher with the never ending supply of money coming from the librul programs to fund the education establishment.

    They are robbed of a decent public education by unions and bureaucrats that put job preservation ahead of quality of education.

    There's probably more but that is plenty already

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    I thought the youth stayed on their parents plan, and the elderly were on Medicare?

    Boy......I'm gonna have to read more about this Obamacare. 

     

     

     
  9. You have chosen to ignore posts from NowWhatDoYouWant. Show NowWhatDoYouWant's posts

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    In response to tvoter's comment:
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    lol Conservatives were completely blocked out of even debate on this bill/law!

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    That happens when you circulate leaked memos that say you will obstruct everything Obama does to break him and make him a one term President.

     

    Racially questionable smears that he is in fact a secret muslim from Kenya probably didn't help.

     

    I know I know....LALALALALALALALl can't hear you messia messiah messiah libruls are satan LALALALALALALAAL.....  '

     

     

     

     

     

    Now quick, report my post like the brave conservative you are!!

     
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    In response to UserName9's comment:

    In response to Hansoribrother's comment:
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    If there is a "War" on anyone it is a war on youth declared by libruls.

    Obamacare soaks them for insurance they don't need to pay for those who are getting subsidies and to reduce the costs of those with high claims, ie the elderly.

    They are getting hosed by Social Security and Medicare withholdings that are taken directly from their paychecks and given to, again, the elderly directly. Charles Ponzi would be proud.

    They are getting scrooed by artificially high tuition rates that are pushed higher and higher with the never ending supply of money coming from the librul programs to fund the education establishment.

    They are robbed of a decent public education by unions and bureaucrats that put job preservation ahead of quality of education.

    There's probably more but that is plenty already



    I thought the youth stayed on their parents plan, and the elderly were on Medicare?

    Boy......I'm gonna have to read more about this Obamacare. 

     

     

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    Yeah, that's what anyone would aspire to.

    What about after 26?

    Waht about young adults who want to be out on their own? Oh, you wouldn't know anyone that would foresake a handout, sorry.

    Yes the elderly are on Medicare, subsidized by confiscation of the youth.

    Yes, Medicare...so wonderful. YOu pay into it for 40 years and you have no access to benefits. And then when you can get access to benefits at age 65, you STILL HAVE TO PAY and to get decent coverage you have to get a supplemental plan.

    Do you have any words of wisdom to explain that rip off?  

    You leftwingers whine about private insurance companies yet do they charge you for 40 years and give you NOTHING??????

    Is your middle name "slacker"?

     
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    Re: R:

    In response to Hansoribrother's comment:
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    In response to UserName9's comment:

     

    In response to Hansoribrother's comment:
    [QUOTE]

    If there is a "War" on anyone it is a war on youth declared by libruls.

    Obamacare soaks them for insurance they don't need to pay for those who are getting subsidies and to reduce the costs of those with high claims, ie the elderly.

    They are getting hosed by Social Security and Medicare withholdings that are taken directly from their paychecks and given to, again, the elderly directly. Charles Ponzi would be proud.

    They are getting scrooed by artificially high tuition rates that are pushed higher and higher with the never ending supply of money coming from the librul programs to fund the education establishment.

    They are robbed of a decent public education by unions and bureaucrats that put job preservation ahead of quality of education.

    There's probably more but that is plenty already

     



     

    I thought the youth stayed on their parents plan, and the elderly were on Medicare?

    Boy......I'm gonna have to read more about this Obamacare. 

     

     

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    Yeah, that's what anyone would aspire to.

    What about after 26?

    Waht about young adults who want to be out on their own? Oh, you wouldn't know anyone that would foresake a handout, sorry.

    Yes the elderly are on Medicare, subsidized by confiscation of the youth.

    Yes, Medicare...so wonderful. YOu pay into it for 40 years and you have no access to benefits. And then when you can get access to benefits at age 65, you STILL HAVE TO PAY and to get decent coverage you have to get a supplemental plan.

    Do you have any words of wisdom to explain that rip off?  

    You leftwingers whine about private insurance companies yet do they charge you for 40 years and give you NOTHING??????

    Is your middle name "slacker"?

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    Thats how Medicare works, and will continue to work.  Younger people pay for the benefits of the retired.  My suggestion to you would be to read about life before Medicare.  When people had to sell their homes and/or go bankrupt to pay the bills that come with decline and death.  It was a republican utopia.

    Most people breathe a sigh of relief when they turn 65 and can sign up.  Medicare isn't perfect, but it is efficient, as evidenced by their low administrative costs.  And it is popular with the elderly.

    But republicans don't care about saving money, being efficient, or caring for the elderly.  When it comes to healthcare, the only thing that matters to them is protecting the profits of insurance companies.

     
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    There's a war on the poor? Does Obama know about this?

     

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    Of course not.  I think I heard Jay Carney say in this mornings briefing that Obama was unaware of any supposed war on the poor.

     
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    "That happens when you circulate leaked memos that say you will obstruct everything Obama does to break him and make him a one term President."

    That is an absurd lie. When Obama was inaugurated, the Republicans said the same things every Party in opposition says...they will cooperate when they can, and oppose policies they dont agree with. Yes, they wanted him to be a one term President. The Dems said far worse when Bush won in 2000. Dems claimed Bush stole the election!

    The myth that there was some evil racist conspiracy to oppose Obama is as stupid as a 9/11 conspiracy...

    But of course, liberals brainlessly believe opposition to Obama's progressive failed policy is per se racist and unpatriotic...

     
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    In response to Hansoribrother's comment:

    There we go again, the race bull



    There is no racism in America anymore? Really?

     

     

    Funny.

    I guess it was just innocent coincidence that 40% of republicans insisted that the first black president was not born in America and another 28% weren't sure.

    I guess it was just innocent coincidence that roughly half those numbers of Democrats thougt the same.

    I guess the focus on Barack HUSSEIN Obama was also just coincidence, as were claims that he was a secret muslim.

     

     

    No other sitting president had to endure this. No other sitting president was black. But again, coincidence.

     Because according to conservatives, racism doesn't exist.

     

    Or if it does, Obama is exempt from it

     

     
  17. You have chosen to ignore posts from FortySixAndTwo. Show FortySixAndTwo's posts

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    In response to NowWhatDoYouWant's comment:
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    In response to Hansoribrother's comment:

    [QUOTE]There we go again, the race bull[/QUOTE]



    There is no racism in America anymore? Really?

     

     

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    Of course not....which is why he didn't say as much....but you know that....

     
  18. You have chosen to ignore posts from NowWhatDoYouWant. Show NowWhatDoYouWant's posts

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    In response to FortySixAndTwo's comment:

    Of course not....which is why he didn't say as much....but you know that....



    Funny how you chose not to quote the rest of the post, which puts that line in context.

     

    No need to answer. I know. You're bored, you want a reaction. Yadda yadda snore snore.

     
  19. You have chosen to ignore posts from FortySixAndTwo. Show FortySixAndTwo's posts

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    In response to NowWhatDoYouWant's comment:
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    [QUOTE]Of course not....which is why he didn't say as much....but you know that....[/QUOTE]



    Funny how you chose not to quote the rest of the post, which puts that line in context.

     

    No need to answer. I know. You're bored, you want a reaction. Yadda yadda snore snore.

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    hahaha....he didn't say racism doesn't exist. End of story. Sorry that doesn't fit your narrative. 

     
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    Re: R:

    Without even clicking over to the second page to see whatever it is that was dropped: Nope, not biting. Sorry.

     
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    Re: R:

    In response to skeeter20's comment:
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    In response to MattyScornD's comment:
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    In response to ComingLiberalCrackup's comment:
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    In response to MattyScornD's comment:
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    To anyone who's been paying attention:

    What else is new...?

     

    Kasich is trying to do right by his entire constituency.  

     

    Some other govs should do the same by expanding care options for their populations...

    ...and perhaps not forcefully take away health care services for people (i.e., women in texas) who really want and need them.

    [/QUOTE]

    Yes, more Obamacare is what we all need. 

    [/QUOTE]

    Apparently, it is...given that conservatism has utterly failed to deal with the problem in any constructive way.

    Again, re: texas...why do conservatives want people to have less health care...??

     

    [/QUOTE]

    You fool.

    you are behaving like Bill Ayres.  It is ok to hurt people as long as the progressive agenda advances.

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    Bill Ayres?!?  Really...?!??

    That's pretty weak...even for you...it's also irrelevant to the topic.

    The only hurt I see are your precious sensibilities.

     

     

     
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    Re: R:

    But what about Rev. Wright?

    How could we forget about HIM?

     
  23. You have chosen to ignore posts from MattyScornD. Show MattyScornD's posts

    Re: R:

    In response to skeeter20's comment:
    [QUOTE]

    In response to MattyScornD's comment:
    [QUOTE]

    To anyone who's been paying attention:

    What else is new...?

     

    Kasich is trying to do right by his entire constituency.  

     

    Some other govs should do the same by expanding care options for their populations...

    ...and perhaps not forcefully take away health care services for people (i.e., women in texas) who really want and need them.

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    Just more subject-changing on the part of progressives.  Can't take the heat on Obamacare falling apart.

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    This IS the subject.  There's no heat, because obamacare is not falling apart.

    Some conservatives ARE falling apart and all over themselves throwing their stones in glass houses, though.  It's all they're good for these days....

     

     
  24. You have chosen to ignore posts from MattyScornD. Show MattyScornD's posts

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    But what about Rev. Wright?

    How could we forget about HIM?

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    Who?

     

     
  25. You have chosen to ignore posts from FortySixAndTwo. Show FortySixAndTwo's posts

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    Without even clicking over to the second page to see whatever it is that was dropped: Nope, not biting. Sorry.

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    no you're right. He emphatically wrote that racism just doesn't exist anymore. How could I have ever missed that....sigh....anywho....carry on with your hyperbole. It's what you do best. I'll allow you the last word. 

     

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