Scott Brown for Senator or President 2012?

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    [QUOTE]Where have you been FC . The only states the TP had little influence is MA,VT,CA the Socialist states. TP are not happy with Brown but better than nothing.  Romney is viewed as RINO. I think Rubio is the new TP star.
    Posted by howiewho[/QUOTE]

    Run a tea party candidate in the presidential election and see what happens. It will bring out the dems in droves.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Scott Brown for Senator or President 2012? :  Where do you think Scotty got his support and money from, 3 million in 24 hours.  I worked on his campaign.  Accorn is gone but Patrick did you a lot of busing in the last election. That only works in poor neighborhoods in Ma (Ma is a small state). Big cities with large poor neighborhoods can be bought like Chicago  . next time around  (if there is a good REP) it will be different.
    Posted by howiewho[/QUOTE]

    The Tea Party lost every major race in Massachusetts. They failed. They aren't a power here. You can construct all the excuses you want, but that doesn't change election results.

    I think the republicans can win the presidential race if they run a more moderate candidate. However a Palin or anyone connected to the Tea Party won't win in a general presidential election. And I honestly think in two years, the tea party won't be nearly as influential. After two years of Republicans controlling the house, you can bet there will be another backlash.
     
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    If Scott Brown votes for another Pelosi, Reid and Obama scam bill, he will go back to being attorney Scott Brown... because he won't have a chance of reelection.

    Wake up Scott... stop trying to fit in... do your job.
     
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    [QUOTE]If Scott Brown votes for another Pelosi, Reid and Obama scam bill, he will go back to being attorney Scott Brown... because he won't have a chance of reelection. Wake up Scott... stop trying to fit in... do your job.
    Posted by OscarBozachT00[/QUOTE]

    Brown can only hope to get reelected in Massachusetts by being in the middle.  He is not one of your right wing fringe guys Oscar. 
     
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    [QUOTE]The Tea Party lost every major race in Massachusetts. They failed. They aren't a power here. ----------------------- Been saying that since their inception.  Three things elected Scott Brown: 1.  Independents 2.  Martha Coakley 3.  Democrats
    Posted by GreginMeffa[/QUOTE]

    I agree. The problem is a lot of people on the right are confusing independents with the tea party.

    Another thing about the tea party, while they had some steam across the coutry, I think they are going to turn a lot of people off with their ideas in the coming two years. People don't really know what this group is about (and to be frank, a lot of tea parties cant decide if they are just fiscal conservatives or fiscal/social conservatives). But they have a rigid ideology that I feel will turn off voters in the end. People kicked out the dems, because they want less ideology, not more.
     
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    Expert progressives herein who were 100% wrong about the Tea Party and the conservative resurgence,  don't skip a beat , and now . predictably, predict again, the conservatives and Tea Party Republicans will 'turn off voters'.

    Massachusetts' election results  have no relation to national trends at all.





     
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    [QUOTE]The Tea Party lost every major race in Massachusetts. They failed. They aren't a power here. ----------------------- Been saying that since their inception.  Three things elected Scott Brown: 1.  Independents 2.  Martha Coakley 3.  Democrats
    Posted by GreginMeffa[/QUOTE]

    Brown needed all three plus the TP and their money to get his .  The hard core TP provided the Margin to win in Mass.  So long as the TP understands that Brown is the closest they can get to electing a candidate who meets their ideology in Mass then they provide value and have a chance at having a positive impact on the election.  If they push too hard in the primaries for candidates who can't win in their states they'll end up with: O'Donnell, Angle and Hudak.

    Bielat in my mind would have beat Keating , Kierney or Tsongas.  The GOP opponents all had flaws that brought them down; drunk drving, old police issue or the nut factor.



     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Scott Brown for Senator or President 2012? : Brown needed all three plus the TP and their money to get his .  The hard core TP provided the Margin to win in Mass.  So long as the TP understands that Brown is the closest they can get to electing a candidate who meets their ideology in Mass then they provide value and have a chance at having a positive impact on the election.  If they push too hard in the primaries for candidates who can't win in their states they'll end up with: O'Donnell, Angle and Hudak. Bielat in my mind would have beat Keating , Kierney or Tsongas.  The GOP opponents all had flaws that brought them down; drunk drving, old police issue or the nut factor.
    Posted by massmoderateJoe[/QUOTE]

    Tierney should have lost, but Hudak was a kook.  Suing over political speech?  One cwazy wabbit.
     
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    [QUOTE]Expert progressives herein who were 100% wrong about the Tea Party and the conservative resurgence,  don't skip a beat , and now . predictably, predict again, the conservatives and Tea Party Republicans will 'turn off voters'. Massachusetts' election results  have no relation to national trends at all.
    Posted by BobinVa[/QUOTE]

    I didn't say conservatives will turn off voters, I said the tea party would because it is too ideological. Let's make a bet bob. Mark this post down. In two years the tea party will be a solid but problematic wing of the republican party. They will continue to be good at rallying the base, but will be on the receiving end of a backlash from independents and democrats, who see them as too extreme.
     
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    [QUOTE]They will continue to be good at rallying the base, but will be on the receiving end of a backlash from independents and democrats, who see them as too extreme. [/QUOTE]

    The only people that view the Tea Party as too extreme belong the leftist wing of the democrat party. These are the same people that are currently viewing Obama as not liberal enough...
     
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    "Let's make a bet bob. Mark this post down. In two years the tea party will be a solid but problematic wing of the republican party."

    That is a bad bet, forum.
    That is like predicting "the weather will be unusual next year"; you win every time...the odds are 100% you will categorize the Tea Party as 'solid but problematic', no matter what year it is.


     
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    [QUOTE]The GOP opponents all had flaws that brought them down; drunk drving, old police issue or the nut factor. ---------------------------------- Yet Ted was a senator for 47 years
    Posted by GreginMeffa[/QUOTE]

    Mass voters forgive any Dem liberal for transgressions; Frank, Tierney, Bump  and yes Kennedy (all had legal or censure decisions against them), but conservatives like Perry are held to a much higher standard (they can be implicated even if found not guilty by a court).

     
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    Scott Brown might as well run for President in 2012, because he's going to have a hard time getting re-elected.

    2 factors will make Brown's re-election far from being a given.  1) The only reason he got elected in the first place was because of Tea Party money.  The Tea Party is mad at him and have sorn to take revenge.  I wouldn't be surprised to see a Tea Party backed GOP challenger in the primary.  They won't win, but it will force Brown to spend money campaigning in the primary.

    2) Kennedy's widow is thinking about running against Brown.  Kennedy's widow would have at her disposal the campaign might of the Kennedys, not to mention a bottomless pit of wealth to draw from. 
     
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    [QUOTE]Scott Brown might as well run for President in 2012, because he's going to have a hard time getting re-elected. 2 factors will make Brown's re-election far from being a given.  1) The only reason he got elected in the first place was because of Tea Party money.  The Tea Party is mad at him and have sorn to take revenge.  I wouldn't be surprised to see a Tea Party backed GOP challenger in the primary.  They won't win, but it will force Brown to spend money campaigning in the primary. 2) Kennedy's widow is thinking about running against Brown.  Kennedy's widow would have at her disposal the campaign might of the Kennedys, not to mention a bottomless pit of wealth to draw from. 
    Posted by DirtyWaterLover[/QUOTE]

    Brown will most likely run for Senator.
    • Brown has a huge war chest already
    • The RNC will spend big bucks to preserve the "Brown" seat
    • Brown has strong indie support as he irritates the progressives and TP's
    • The TP needs to be pragmatic and understand this is closest they'll ever get in Mass, so don't waste it.
    • Teddy's widow will play with the left only....and energize the right

     
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    Are his daughters still available?
     
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    The TP needs to be pragmatic??? hahahahahahahahaha.

    That is so funny.  Pragmatic?  Right.

    A republican in Massachusetts is always vulnerable. 

    Teddy's wife will easily win.  And brown will be back to doing mortgage closings for his supper.
     
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    I will take MARCO RUBIO over SCOTT BROWN (brown is over inflated)
       he's zero.

    Anybody in Mass are stupid -- they voted for Barney Happy Frank who created havoc in the population.......still voted for this SOB?  priceless....
     

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