The far right has so vilified Obama that for Republican congressmen to even negotiate with the White House is seen as treason by many Republicans

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    The far right has ...

    http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washington/articles/2011/07/27/gop_moderates_shrinking_in_numbers___and_impact/
     
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    Gee Billy.. an objective Boston Globe article....

    Obama deserves it. He brings NOTHING to the table.
    Where is Obamas plan?
     
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    Re: The far right has so vilified Obama that for Republican congressmen to even negotiate with the White House is seen as tre...

    And you're a fool if you don't think the Democrats have a polarization problem too.  How many moderate Dems left in House, maybe 25?

    Of course a hyper-partisan like yourself probably thinks that's a good thing.
     
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    Hmmmmmmmm looks like some people just got slapped silly with some truth they cant handle .
     
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    In Response to Re: The far right has so vilified Obama that for Republican congressmen to even negotiate with the White House is seen as treason by many Republicans:
    [QUOTE]Hmmmmmmmm looks like some people just got slapped silly with some truth they cant handle .
    Posted by beKool[/QUOTE]


    hey dummy....neither party is coming out of this smelling rosy.
     
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    Re: The far right has so vilified Obama that for Republican congressmen to even negotiate with the White House is seen as tre...

    In Response to Re: The far right has so vilified Obama that for Republican congressmen to even negotiate with the White House is seen as treason by many Republicans:
    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: The far right has so vilified Obama that for Republican congressmen to even negotiate with the White House is seen as treason by many Republicans : hey dummy....neither party is coming out of this smelling rosy.
    Posted by UserName99[/QUOTE]

    Do you need a doctor for that ringing in the ears after that slap ?
     
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    Re: The far right has so vilified Obama that for Republican congressmen to even negotiate with the White House is seen as tre...

    Where is our LEADER at a time of crisis??

    Sitting on the sidelines pointing finger of blame while he campaigns.
    Offering no solution.
    Not compromising on raising taxes.
    Not willing to address to debt issue.
    Not willing to scale government back.

    No doubt a total p o s
     
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    Re: The far right has so vilified Obama that for Republican congressmen to even negotiate with the White House is seen as tre...

    In Response to Re: The far right has so vilified Obama that for Republican congressmen to even negotiate with the White House is seen as treason by many Republicans:
    [QUOTE]Says Alan Abramowitz
    Posted by GreginMeffa[/QUOTE]

    Its not just Alan saying it, GOP leaders, elected or otherwise, and GOP activists (particularly the Tea Party are) are in words AND action indicating that "compromise" is the new F word.  The debt ceiling is just the latest drama to nail that point home but it is an undercurrent of Obama's first term.  The GOP is boxed in by virtue of the persistent campaign to demonize Obama as a (among other things) socialist, communist, muslim, radical, etc.  If that’s what the GOP officials, its pundits, and AM talkers are selling then how can the GOP realistically work with a man who is "the enemy"? 

    We're talking incompatible levels of irrational HATE that makes Red Sox fans marrying Yankees fans, or even dogs and cats lying together look like a bowl of warm delicious oatmeal.   Especially the House Freshman who owe the political lives to the Tea Party, and pledges they made while campaigning have effectively neutered their ability to legislate.  Hell several of the GOP candidates for President are proudly and loudly echoing the same sentiment.  Bachmann has said numerous times she would not vote to raise the debt ceiling and she is polling consistently second to Romney in the GOP race for the nomination.  Just a couple years ago she was largely disregarded as a substantive challenged bomb thrower prone to massive media gaffes and now she is a legit candidate for the GOP nomination?  Over someone like Tim Pawlenty? Come on. 

     
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    Re: The far right has so vilified Obama that for Republican congressmen to even negotiate with the White House is seen as tre...

    In Response to Re: The far right has so vilified Obama that for Republican congressmen to even negotiate with the White House is seen as treason by many Republicans:
    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: The far right has so vilified Obama that for Republican congressmen to even negotiate with the White House is seen as treason by many Republicans : hey dummy....neither party is coming out of this smelling rosy.
    Posted by UserName99[/QUOTE]


    ...as well they shouldn't...
     
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    Re: The far right has so vilified Obama that for Republican congressmen to even negotiate with the White House is seen as tre...

    In Response to Re: The far right has so vilified Obama that for Republican congressmen to even negotiate with the White House is seen as treason by many Republicans:
    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: The far right has so vilified Obama that for Republican congressmen to even negotiate with the White House is seen as treason by many Republicans : hey dummy....neither party is coming out of this smelling rosy.
    Posted by UserName99[/QUOTE]

    You got that right.  The only people pushing for cutting spending, which is the ONLY solution to the real problem, the debt, is the TEA party caucus.

    Establishment democrats and establishment republicans want more money to spend.  What part of "no" don't they understand?
     
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    Re: The far right has so vilified Obama that for Republican congressmen to even negotiate with the White House is seen as tre...

    In Response to Re: The far right has so vilified Obama that for Republican congressmen to even negotiate with the White House is seen as treason by many Republicans:
    [QUOTE]What truth? It is only one turd's opinion, sought after by a desperate liberal reporter. The real truth is that the moderate Republican is in the White House implementing most all of the policies of his predecessor. The truth is that a moderate Republican is really a moderate liberal. So as far as I am concerned a Moderate Republican is no different than Obama. They offer voters no choice. If I wanted to vote for a liberal, why not vote for the real one - Obama - as opposed to the weak-kneed Republican ones. Obama deserves to be villified. He's a liar. He's not a leader, he's weak. His policies are divisive - witness how he crammed down the GM and Chrysler bankruptcies on the bond holders in favor of the unions. He had a choice to come up with a settlement that forged a better working relationship between management and labor, one that was cooperative rather than adversarial. He picked the old school left wing adversarial route.
    Posted by Newtster[/QUOTE]

    Interesting that you attacked the author, who actually just reported what another person said, but then proceeded to fully demonstrate the exact sentiment that was expressed.  Truly a stunning and spectacular example of lack of self awareness and irony. 

    Its like someone said "orange juice is delicious" and you said "What do you know you turd liberal, moron?  Orange juice IS delicious"
     
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    There is also a load of irony in the original opinion considering what the left tried to do to the otherwise solidly liberal Joe Lieberman for his stance on the war.

    Not a lot of self-awareness being shown there either.

     
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    In Response to Re: The far right has so vilified Obama that for Republican congressmen to even negotiate with the White House is seen as treason by many Republicans:
    [QUOTE]LOL. When you need to claim victory, you've lost.
    Posted by GreginMeffa[/QUOTE]

    Odd
    you do that
    all the time
    HMMMM
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: The far right has so vilified Obama that for Republican congressmen to even negotiate with the White House is seen as treason by many Republicans : Its not just Alan saying it, GOP leaders, elected or otherwise, and GOP activists (particularly the Tea Party are) are in words AND action indicating that "compromise" is the new F word.  The debt ceiling is just the latest drama to nail that point home but it is an undercurrent of Obama's first term.  The GOP is boxed in by virtue of the persistent campaign to demonize Obama as a (among other things) socialist, communist, muslim, radical, etc.  If that’s what the GOP officials, its pundits, and AM talkers are selling then how can the GOP realistically work with a man who is "the enemy"?  We're talking incompatible levels of irrational HATE that makes Red Sox fans marrying Yankees fans, or even dogs and cats lying together look like a bowl of warm delicious oatmeal.   Especially the House Freshman who owe the political lives to the Tea Party, and pledges they made while campaigning have effectively neutered their ability to legislate.  Hell several of the GOP candidates for President are proudly and loudly echoing the same sentiment.  Bachmann has said numerous times she would not vote to raise the debt ceiling and she is polling consistently second to Romney in the GOP race for the nomination.  Just a couple years ago she was largely disregarded as a substantive challenged bomb thrower prone to massive media gaffes and now she is a legit candidate for the GOP nomination?  Over someone like Tim Pawlenty? Come on. 
    Posted by DamainAllen[/QUOTE]

    Just a couple of points on pespective.

    • Tea Party is the Right's equivalent of the Left's MoveOn.  Just remember back to the love that they showed President Bush.
    • Bachman is just mirroring a position on not raising the debt ceiling that then Senator Obama had 4 years ago.  

    That being said, not raising the debt is unacceptable, but it must come with a plan to reduce deficit spending and to draw down the debt. 

     
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    Re: The far right has so vilified Obama that for Republican congressmen to even negotiate with the White House is seen as tre...

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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: The far right has so vilified Obama that for Republican congressmen to even negotiate with the White House is seen as treason by many Republicans : Just a couple of points on pespective. Tea Party is the Right's equivalent of the Left's MoveOn.  Just remember back to the love that they showed President Bush. Bachman is just mirroring a position on not raising the debt ceiling that then Senator Obama had 4 years ago.   That being said, not raising the debt is unacceptable, but it must come with a plan to reduce deficit spending and to draw down the debt. 
    Posted by massmoderateJoe[/QUOTE]

    If the lamestram media is to be believed, the Tea Party is a far more potent force in the policial environment than Moveon was during their heyday.  How many congresspeople run as Moveon liberals?  Was there ever a Moveon caucus?  That Moveon regularly blasted Bush is meaningful in what way? Republicans regularly blasted him to the extent that he was a nonfactor in the 2008 election, the GOP ran away from him. 

    And mirroring Obama's position 4 years ago, now, is idiotic, and is the simplistic type of reasoning that demonstrates why Bachmann is an ideological loon.  Obama may have spoken out against raising the debt ceiling, it but it was never in danger of not being raised ANYWAY.  If anything he capitalized on a done deal by voicing opposition even though it was all sound and fury.  The two instances are not analagous. 
     
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    Just wondering... while O may have spoken out (at one time) against raising the ceiling...

    Did he vote "Present" on the actual vote?
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: The far right has so vilified Obama that for Republican congressmen to even negotiate with the White House is seen as treason by many Republicans : Just a couple of points on pespective. Tea Party is the Right's equivalent of the Left's MoveOn.  Just remember back to the love that they showed President Bush. Bachman is just mirroring a position on not raising the debt ceiling that then Senator Obama had 4 years ago.   That being said, not raising the debt is unacceptable, but it must come with a plan to reduce deficit spending and to draw down the debt. 
    Posted by massmoderateJoe[/QUOTE]

    Joe, Joe, Joe,  Don't fall for the talking point that the TEA party is like moveon.  Move on is a creation of highly connected Clinton supporters who were trying to change the story line during his impeachment time frame.  the TEA party, is a predominantly grass roots effort of normal, voting citizens who are sick and tired of paying so much in taxes and getting little to nothing in return.

    The TEA party is not violent, and it is not extreme.  Sure, you can find exceptions to this, but, in the main, they are simply for a return to fiscal sanity.  Hardly like move on at all.
     
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    Re: The far right has so vilified Obama that for Republican congressmen to even negotiate with the White House is seen as tre...

    Repeat: there is nothing "fiscally sane" about the possibility of a U.S. default.


     
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    Re: The far right has so vilified Obama that for Republican congressmen to even negotiate with the White House is seen as tre...

    Show me where the White House has "negotiated".  All I see is a stammering fool of a President demanding everything his way.

    Meanwhile the TEA party candidates are the only ones addressing the key issues.
     
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    [QUOTE]Repeat: there is nothing "fiscally sane" about the possibility of a U.S. default.
    Posted by MattyScornD[/QUOTE]

    Remember, if we default on our debt obligation in August, it will be completely OBama's choice.  Without any plan, there is enough money to pay the debt.
     

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