The GOP Problem...in a Nutshell ( literally and figuratively)

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    Hmm....    jmel did always like the apostrophe that points the wrong way. And he loved to fight with airborne.

     

    But there just don't seem to be enough angry generalizations, insults, and cursewords. And the post isn't quite gramattically disjointed enough.




    Seems like a match.  Same lunacy about voter demographics too.

     
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    I would not be bringing Ted Nugent anywhere.   Correct about Romney but, Obama won Hispanics by large margins, under -25 by large margins, single women and more specifically single mothers by large margins, and he won the under $30k per year income group.  He won all the inner-city votes but not the suburb votes (exceptions being the ultra-liberal states, CA, MA, NY, etc).  If the poster checks the voter demographics the truth will prove that the "stupid voters" (user99`s words) voted for the currnet occupant of 1600 Pennsylvania Av.

     

     

    (Insert airborne`s racist rant here)

     



    The Hispanic vote is overblown - if Romney had split the Hispanic vote he might have picked up Florida.  It wouldn't have made a difference in states that overwhelmingly blue or red like California and Texas, and there weren't enough Hispanics in states like Ohio and Wisconsin to make much of a difference.

    Maybe Republicans can take voters away in some of these demographic areas, but let's face it - their strongest demographic is literally dying.  They're never going to win the white house this way - if they split off from the tea party, each faction would at least be representing their (purported) beliefs, instead of this ridiculous hybrid that has guys like Mitt Romney pretending to give 2 sh1ts about varmint hunting and abortions.

     

     

     
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    BTW, Bush's record re: gas prices was horrendous ...

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    Republicans should demand that the Tea Party declare itself a political party and break off from the GOP.

     

     

    Sure, and the blue dogs and centrists of the Democrat party should demand that the socialists that have invaded their party be honest and go back to the Socialist party where they belong.




    Well...except that the blue dogs and the left wing extreme are not giving two separate responses to the SOTU. Somehow they manage to muddle through as a united party. The same clearly cannot be said for the GOP/Tea Party. They can't even agree on a joint response to a speech.

     
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    One must not disagree with the BORG.



    Though you state it in a funny way, that seems to be the thrust of many of the liberals here.  Discussion, points of view that differ from theirs,  is not allowed.  

     
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    Rand Paul is going to give the Tea Party response to tonight's State of the Union address. This one fact basically sums up the reason the Republican party is struggling.

    Republicans should demand that the Tea Party declare itself a political party and break off from the GOP. The Tea Party wants to have its cake and eat it to. They don't want to do the work to become a legitimate political party...they would rather remain a special interest group and..like parasites feed off a clearly weakened Republican Party.

    I am calling on the media to refuse to give air time to Rand Paul and the Tea Party response. The Tea Party is not a registered political party in this country and these responses have always been limited to political party. I call on the Republican party to take back their party..to demand once and for all tha the Tea Party become its own political party.

    As long as the GOP allows itself to remain divided in this way...their power and influence will continue to weaken.

     



    Well, What's the harm?  If it splits the republicans s, good for your side.

     

     
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    One must not disagree with the BORG.

     



    Though you state it in a funny way, that seems to be the thrust of many of the liberals here.  Discussion, points of view that differ from theirs,  is not allowed.  

     




    Well..I respectfully disagree Skeeter. I think there is usually great discussion between the forum members when people bring facts to the table...it's when comments are made that are not or cannot be backed up with facts that the debate falls apart.

    I love talking politics..I love debating politics...and I love hearing all perspectives..but when someone is clearly a troll..then no..they are not worth the effort. Besides..I am guessing we'd all drive the people in ours lives crazy if we were not able to get our politics fix here..lol

     
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    Rand Paul is going to give the Tea Party response to tonight's State of the Union address. This one fact basically sums up the reason the Republican party is struggling.

    Republicans should demand that the Tea Party declare itself a political party and break off from the GOP. The Tea Party wants to have its cake and eat it to. They don't want to do the work to become a legitimate political party...they would rather remain a special interest group and..like parasites feed off a clearly weakened Republican Party.

    I am calling on the media to refuse to give air time to Rand Paul and the Tea Party response. The Tea Party is not a registered political party in this country and these responses have always been limited to political party. I call on the Republican party to take back their party..to demand once and for all tha the Tea Party become its own political party.

    As long as the GOP allows itself to remain divided in this way...their power and influence will continue to weaken.

     



    Well, What's the harm?  If it splits the republicans s, good for your side.

     




    Well...because I don't think it's about "taking sides".  I just think that if the Tea Party wants to be afforded the privilages of an actual political party..they should actually do the work necessary..rather than hijack a vulnerable GOP party..

     

     
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    (Insert airborne`s racist rant here)



    Hmm....    jmel did always like the apostrophe that points the wrong way. And he loved to fight with airborne.

     

    But there just don't seem to be enough angry generalizations, insults, and cursewords. And the post isn't quite gramattically disjointed enough.



    I`d love to have you in my English 101 class.  Your mommy and daddy would be in the principal`s ofice every day wondering why their little boy couldn`t cope.

    And here you are, 25 years later, worshiping a lousy guitarist, spewing lib hate, and still not "getting it"

     

     
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    And all those awful things you cited resulted in the 42 consecutive months of growth?

     



     


    Try reading:

     

     

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    The wars provided stimulus to an economy that was already riding on a mortgage bubble (both parties fault, perhaps dems a tiny bit more), and a financial bubble (more republican fault), so of course things looked better than they were.

    When the bubbles burst we saw the true cost of the wars and prescription plan, but it was too late because we had to start more bailouts/stimulus just to stop things from exploding

     



     

     

    Do you deny that wars have a stimulative effect (though at the cost of blood and public treasure)?

    Ask FDR.



    I do agree.  You`d be surprised.  But, as always, your numbers are wrong.  The "costs" (actual dollars) of the 2 wars are a spit in the ocean compared to the cost of bailouts, stimulus, and obamacare, ($2 trillion).   Do your research (honestly) 

     
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    Not a "newbie"............you know that.

     

    The stats are dead-nuts-on........and you know that too.

     



    Like I said, you're just pretending.  Why you got banned though I can only guess....

     

    No, they really aren't.  And they're still non sequiturs, anyway.

    Again, thanks for playing.  Your door prize should arrive in 4 - 6 weeks.

     

     



    Don`t see you proving that they are "wrong".  Let me help you........you cannot.

    If my "prize" is unemployment at 4%, gas at 2.00/gallon, debt at $ 4 trillion, my house(s) @ $1 million, and a flat tax...............then OK!   If OBummer is still president, N Korea and Iran are kissing cousins with a nuke, and you`re still clueless..............well, I decline the gift. 

     
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    BTW, Bush's record re: gas prices was horrendous ...

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    Good.  Tell me when it gets to 3.50 plus and stays there........OK?

     
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    I thought the GOP was thirsty tonight .

     
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    I would not be bringing Ted Nugent anywhere.   Correct about Romney but, Obama won Hispanics by large margins, under -25 by large margins, single women and more specifically single mothers by large margins, and he won the under $30k per year income group.  He won all the inner-city votes but not the suburb votes (exceptions being the ultra-liberal states, CA, MA, NY, etc).  If the poster checks the voter demographics the truth will prove that the "stupid voters" (user99`s words) voted for the currnet occupant of 1600 Pennsylvania Av.

     

     

    (Insert airborne`s racist rant here)

     



    The Hispanic vote is overblown - if Romney had split the Hispanic vote he might have picked up Florida.  It wouldn't have made a difference in states that overwhelmingly blue or red like California and Texas, and there weren't enough Hispanics in states like Ohio and Wisconsin to make much of a difference.

     

    Maybe Republicans can take voters away in some of these demographic areas, but let's face it - their strongest demographic is literally dying.  They're never going to win the white house this way - if they split off from the tea party, each faction would at least be representing their (purported) beliefs, instead of this ridiculous hybrid that has guys like Mitt Romney pretending to give 2 sh1ts about varmint hunting and abortions.

     

     

     



    Sounds like you would rather have a bunch of illegal, taker, uneducated, lazy, dumb, fools, choosing your president?

     




    I'd say the 40 and younger crowd have a greater stake in the future of the country than the 70 and over crowd.

     

     
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    I would not be bringing Ted Nugent anywhere.   Correct about Romney but, Obama won Hispanics by large margins, under -25 by large margins, single women and more specifically single mothers by large margins, and he won the under $30k per year income group.  He won all the inner-city votes but not the suburb votes (exceptions being the ultra-liberal states, CA, MA, NY, etc).  If the poster checks the voter demographics the truth will prove that the "stupid voters" (user99`s words) voted for the currnet occupant of 1600 Pennsylvania Av.

     

     

    (Insert airborne`s racist rant here)

     



    The Hispanic vote is overblown - if Romney had split the Hispanic vote he might have picked up Florida.  It wouldn't have made a difference in states that overwhelmingly blue or red like California and Texas, and there weren't enough Hispanics in states like Ohio and Wisconsin to make much of a difference.

     

    Maybe Republicans can take voters away in some of these demographic areas, but let's face it - their strongest demographic is literally dying.  They're never going to win the white house this way - if they split off from the tea party, each faction would at least be representing their (purported) beliefs, instead of this ridiculous hybrid that has guys like Mitt Romney pretending to give 2 sh1ts about varmint hunting and abortions.

     

     

     



    Sounds like you would rather have a bunch of illegal, taker, uneducated, lazy, dumb, fools, choosing your president?

     

     




     

    I'd say the 40 and younger crowd have a greater stake in the future of the country than the 70 and over crowd.

     



    I would too.  The problem is they are uninformed.  Not so much age 30-40 but, large percentages  of the 18-30 age group are getting their news from Comedy Central and Saturday Night Live.  You want them responsible for the future of America?  I don`t.  

     

     
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    ....keep the focus on the facts...



    Here`s a fact:

    January 20, 2009      U.S. National debt = $9.7 Trillion

    February 13, 2013     U.S. National debt = $16.8 Trillion

    George Washington through George W. Bush (43 presidents) debt grows to $9.7 Trillion.  4 years of Obama debt grows by $7 Trillion.

    Disgraceful.

     
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    Here`s a fact:

    January 20, 2009      U.S. National debt = $9.7 Trillion

    February 13, 2013     U.S. National debt = $16.8 Trillion

    George Washington through George W. Bush (43 presidents) debt grows to $9.7 Trillion.  4 years of Obama debt grows by $7 Trillion.

    Disgraceful.

     

     

     

    In response to tacobreath's comment:

    Do your research (honestly)

     

    Knew you couldn't.

    No wonder airborne yell at you so much. "Honest" research reveals that even if your 2 trillion tag for Obama is honest, the tag for Bush was far greater.

     

     

    Iraq: 800+ Billion, plus potentially up to another trillion through 2050 for vets, plus interest on all that debt service


    CBO, trusted when bad for Obama, hated when good for him, estimates long term cost at 1.7 trillion for Iraq. That was in 2007.

    Afghanistan: 600+ million

    Unfunded prescription: Between 400 and 600 billion over 10ish years, take your pick.

    "Initially, the net cost of the program was projected at $400 billion for the ten-year period between 2004 and 2013. One month after passage, the administration estimated that the net cost of the program over the period between 2006 (the first year the program started paying benefits) and 2015 would be $534 billion.As of February 2009, the projected net cost of the program over the 2006 to 2015 period was $549.2 billion"

    TARP: 25 billion or so, though perhaps more will be recovered.

    And of course, Tax cuts, a mortgage crisis (see my quote from Bush in 2002 "everyone must have a home" in the other thread), a financial crisis.......and trillions of revenue gets knocked out.


    Add in thousands of our soldiers dead, a hundred thousand civilians dead, far more maimed, the fact he kept his wars off the books.... and...well... you'll stat to see how awful Bush was.

     

     

    Obama stopped that and started to turn things around. We have a long way to go, no doubt. But he is by far not the "worst" president ever.

     

     To pretend all that stuff isn't still costing us money....disgusting. But expected.






    What`s "expected" is your denial of any Obama culpibility.  What`s "expected" is your avoidance of the FACTs.  Obamacare $1.8 trillion, stimulus $1 trillion, bailouts, financing of private companies, etc,etc,    Gotta love how 2000-2008 is "Bush`s fault",  2009-2013 is still "Bush`s fault", and I`m sure that 4 years from now, in your mind, it will still be "Bush`s fault".

    Who`s economy did Obama pick up on January 20, 2013?

     

     
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    Your numbers for "cost of wars" are a million miles off.  In fact, nobody knows what the wars cost. A couple of weeks ago FOX did an analysis and had Iraq at $600 billion (I don`t believe that either).

    There are thousands of articles, estimates, sources, for these costs and none are correct.

     
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    I would not be bringing Ted Nugent anywhere.   Correct about Romney but, Obama won Hispanics by large margins, under -25 by large margins, single women and more specifically single mothers by large margins, and he won the under $30k per year income group.  He won all the inner-city votes but not the suburb votes (exceptions being the ultra-liberal states, CA, MA, NY, etc).  If the poster checks the voter demographics the truth will prove that the "stupid voters" (user99`s words) voted for the currnet occupant of 1600 Pennsylvania Av.

     

     

    (Insert airborne`s racist rant here)

     



    The Hispanic vote is overblown - if Romney had split the Hispanic vote he might have picked up Florida.  It wouldn't have made a difference in states that overwhelmingly blue or red like California and Texas, and there weren't enough Hispanics in states like Ohio and Wisconsin to make much of a difference.

     

    Maybe Republicans can take voters away in some of these demographic areas, but let's face it - their strongest demographic is literally dying.  They're never going to win the white house this way - if they split off from the tea party, each faction would at least be representing their (purported) beliefs, instead of this ridiculous hybrid that has guys like Mitt Romney pretending to give 2 sh1ts about varmint hunting and abortions.

     

     

     



    Sounds like you would rather have a bunch of illegal, taker, uneducated, lazy, dumb, fools, choosing your president?

     

     




     

    I'd say the 40 and younger crowd have a greater stake in the future of the country than the 70 and over crowd.

     

     



    I would too.  The problem is they are uninformed.  Not so much age 30-40 but, large percentages  of the 18-30 age group are getting their news from Comedy Central and Saturday Night Live.  You want them responsible for the future of America?  I don`t.  

     

     




    There are uninformed voters on both sides.  I don't see Sean Hannity and Rush Limbaugh as a step up from Jon Stewart and Seth Meyers.

     

     
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    I would not be bringing Ted Nugent anywhere.   Correct about Romney but, Obama won Hispanics by large margins, under -25 by large margins, single women and more specifically single mothers by large margins, and he won the under $30k per year income group.  He won all the inner-city votes but not the suburb votes (exceptions being the ultra-liberal states, CA, MA, NY, etc).  If the poster checks the voter demographics the truth will prove that the "stupid voters" (user99`s words) voted for the currnet occupant of 1600 Pennsylvania Av.

     

     

    (Insert airborne`s racist rant here)

     



    The Hispanic vote is overblown - if Romney had split the Hispanic vote he might have picked up Florida.  It wouldn't have made a difference in states that overwhelmingly blue or red like California and Texas, and there weren't enough Hispanics in states like Ohio and Wisconsin to make much of a difference.

     

    Maybe Republicans can take voters away in some of these demographic areas, but let's face it - their strongest demographic is literally dying.  They're never going to win the white house this way - if they split off from the tea party, each faction would at least be representing their (purported) beliefs, instead of this ridiculous hybrid that has guys like Mitt Romney pretending to give 2 sh1ts about varmint hunting and abortions.

     

     

     



    Sounds like you would rather have a bunch of illegal, taker, uneducated, lazy, dumb, fools, choosing your president?

     

     




     

    I'd say the 40 and younger crowd have a greater stake in the future of the country than the 70 and over crowd.

     

     



    I would too.  The problem is they are uninformed.  Not so much age 30-40 but, large percentages  of the 18-30 age group are getting their news from Comedy Central and Saturday Night Live.  You want them responsible for the future of America?  I don`t.  

     

     

     




     

    There are uninformed voters on both sides.  I don't see Sean Hannity and Rush Limbaugh as a step up from Jon Stewart and Seth Meyers.

     



    No..but at least Stewart is honest up front that he is satirical..and Meyers is a comedian. Nothing satirical about Hannity and Limbaugh...well..at least in an honest sense anyhow.

     

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