WH Touts Kenyan Program to Obtain National ID Cards for Voter Registration

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    WH Touts Kenyan Program to Obtain National ID Cards for Voter Registration

    The White House put out a Fact Sheet entitled "U.S. Support for Strengthening Democratic Institutions, Rule of Law, and Human Rights in Sub-Saharan Africa." One of the first items highlighted by the White House is a $53 million program in Kenya that helps young people "obtain National identification cards, a prerequisite to voter registration."

    • In Kenya, the $53 million Yes Youth Can program empowers nearly one million Kenyan youth to use their voices for advocacy in national and local policy-making, while also creating economic opportunities.  In advance of Kenya’s March 2013 general elections, Yes Youth Can’s “My ID My Life” campaign helped 500,000 youth obtain National identification cards, a prerequisite to voter registration, and carried out a successful nationwide campaign with Kenyan civic organizations to elicit peace pledges from all presidential aspirants...

     

    WHAT? Aren't ID requirements to register and vote , per our US Attorney General, evil Jim Crow racist voter suppression efforts? So so confusing....

     

     
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    Re: WH Touts Kenyan Program to Obtain National ID Cards for Voter Registration

    Well at least states can at least now ask for a picture ID in order to vote.

     
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    Yes Youth Can’s “My ID My Life” campaign helped 500,000 youth obtain National identification cards, a prerequisite to voter registration

    That's pretty smart of them, you really don't want something as important as elections to be untrustworthy.

     

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    Re: WH Touts Kenyan Program to Obtain National ID Cards for Voter Registration

    So you're saying voter ID laws are contributing to voter fraud and dis-enfranchisement in Kenya?

     

     
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    Am I misunderstanding the article?  It sounds like this money is going to combat the fraud that results in voter ID laws.  But that can't be, because then the OP and every conservative comment that followed would look really idiotic.

     
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    So you're saying voter ID laws are contributing to voter fraud and dis-enfranchisement in Kenya?

    I'm typing slowly so you can understand. The OP is pointing out the hypocrisy of the President promoting a program in another country that his administration agressively fights against in our own country. It's a good idea in Kenya. It's a good idea in the US. That's all.

     

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    Say, is it happy hour already?

     

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    Re: WH Touts Kenyan Program to Obtain National ID Cards for Voter Registration

    In response to A_Concerned_Citizen's comment:

    In response to StalkingButler's comment:

     

     

    So you're saying voter ID laws are contributing to voter fraud and dis-enfranchisement in Kenya?

     

     

    I'm typing slowly so you can understand. The OP is pointing out the hypocrisy of the President promoting a program in another country that his administration agressively fights against in our own country. It's a good idea in Kenya. It's a good idea in the US. That's all.

     

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    Key phrase being "another country".

     

    But don't let those pesky facts get in the way of a good old fashioned neo-con pseudo-scandal or something...

    Why is the issue different in another country?

    Identification is used to verify you are whom you claim to be. Kenya wants to have elections which are honest and scandal free. So it has IDs issued to voters..obviously a step forward.

    Yet in the US, the Obama Adminstration doesnt care a whit about potential vote fraud. It is almost like they would desire a voting precinct to have 125% voter turnout, with every single vote of thousands cast for one candidate...

     
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    Re: WH Touts Kenyan Program to Obtain National ID Cards for Voter Registration

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    [QUOTE]So you're saying voter ID laws are contributing to voter fraud and dis-enfranchisement in Kenya?

     

    I'm typing slowly so you can understand. The OP is pointing out the hypocrisy of the President promoting a program in another country that his administration agressively fights against in our own country. It's a good idea in Kenya. It's a good idea in the US. That's all.

     

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    It's not the IDs he's fighting against Einstein - it's the laws.

     

     
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    Re: WH Touts Kenyan Program to Obtain National ID Cards for Voter Registration

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    What an outlandish concept: Working within the laws of another country to promote democracy within that country.

    Obama is truly a Muslim-socialist-communist-Kenyan.



    Wait until they find out they can't vote in the U.S.

    oh, wait...I think they can, actually.  You can't ask for and ID here.

     
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    In response to ComingLiberalCrackup's comment:

    In response to A_Concerned_Citizen's comment:

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    In response to StalkingButler's comment:

     

     

    So you're saying voter ID laws are contributing to voter fraud and dis-enfranchisement in Kenya?

     

     

    I'm typing slowly so you can understand. The OP is pointing out the hypocrisy of the President promoting a program in another country that his administration agressively fights against in our own country. It's a good idea in Kenya. It's a good idea in the US. That's all.

     

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    Key phrase being "another country".

     

    But don't let those pesky facts get in the way of a good old fashioned neo-con pseudo-scandal or something...

     

     

    Why is the issue different in another country?

    Identification is used to verify you are whom you claim to be. Kenya wants to have elections which are honest and scandal free. So it has IDs issued to voters..obviously a step forward.

    Yet in the US, the Obama Adminstration doesnt care a whit about potential vote fraud. It is almost like they would desire a voting precinct to have 125% voter turnout, with every single vote of thousands cast for one candidate...

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    Unbelievable.  We need to send $50M to Kenya so more people are allowed to vote, and conservatives see it as a model for the US.  To fix a problem that doesn't exist.  Let's remember that the next time you're b1tching about an IRS party in Las Vegas or a government study you think is useless.

     

     

     
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    Re: WH Touts Kenyan Program to Obtain National ID Cards for Voter Registration

    In response to StalkingButler's comment:

     

    [QUOTE]So you're saying voter ID laws are contributing to voter fraud and dis-enfranchisement in Kenya?

     

    I'm typing slowly so you can understand. The OP is pointing out the hypocrisy of the President promoting a program in another country that his administration agressively fights against in our own country. It's a good idea in Kenya. It's a good idea in the US. That's all.

     

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    [/QUOTE]


    Correct me if I am wrong...but you are required in the US to show and ID and prove residence when you register to vote. No different than what this fact sheet is suggesting. This has nothing to do with Voter ID...which supports showing ID and proving residency at the time one exercises their right to vote...even though they have already done so when they registered.

     
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    Re: WH Touts Kenyan Program to Obtain National ID Cards for Voter Registration

    The President's policies to promote Democracy in North Africa and the MIddle East have worked out so well. No doubt there will be an Islamic extremist group leading Kenya soon.

     
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    Re: WH Touts Kenyan Program to Obtain National ID Cards for Voter Registration

    Correct me if I am wrong...but you are required in the US to show and ID and prove residence when you register to vote. No different than what this fact sheet is suggesting. This has nothing to do with Voter ID...which supports showing ID and proving residency at the time one exercises their right to vote...even though they have already done so when they registered.

    So if everyone has already proven the ability to show ID why then is it a problem at all? Clearly everyone that's registered to vote has an ID and can prove that they're a registered voter right? Why then would the administration claim that voter ID laws are discriminatory? This just doesn't make any sense.

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    Re: WH Touts Kenyan Program to Obtain National ID Cards for Voter Registration

    In response to slomag's comment:

    In response to ComingLiberalCrackup's comment:
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    In response to A_Concerned_Citizen's comment:

    [QUOTE]

     

     

    In response to StalkingButler's comment:

     

     

    So you're saying voter ID laws are contributing to voter fraud and dis-enfranchisement in Kenya?

     

     

    I'm typing slowly so you can understand. The OP is pointing out the hypocrisy of the President promoting a program in another country that his administration agressively fights against in our own country. It's a good idea in Kenya. It's a good idea in the US. That's all.

     

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    Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.




    Key phrase being "another country".

     

    But don't let those pesky facts get in the way of a good old fashioned neo-con pseudo-scandal or something...

     

     

     

     

    Why is the issue different in another country?

    Identification is used to verify you are whom you claim to be. Kenya wants to have elections which are honest and scandal free. So it has IDs issued to voters..obviously a step forward.

    Yet in the US, the Obama Adminstration doesnt care a whit about potential vote fraud. It is almost like they would desire a voting precinct to have 125% voter turnout, with every single vote of thousands cast for one candidate...

     

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    Unbelievable.  We need to send $50M to Kenya so more people are allowed to vote, and conservatives see it as a model for the US.  To fix a problem that doesn't exist.  Let's remember that the next time you're b1tching about an IRS party in Las Vegas or a government study you think is useless.

     

     

     

    [/QUOTE]


    What's good enough for Kenya is good enough for the U.S. 

    But, spending 50 mil in Kenya means we need to borrow 50 mil from the chinese, so why don't we just eliminate the middleman and tel lthe chinese to do it.

     
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    Re: WH Touts Kenyan Program to Obtain National ID Cards for Voter Registration

    In response to A_Concerned_Citizen's comment:

     

    What an outlandish concept: Working within the laws of another country to promote democracy within that country.

    Obama is truly a Muslim-socialist-communist-Kenyan.

     




    Well, apparently he is, and just setting the ground work for his next job, president of his "home country" (not according to me, according to his wife).


    Before you flip out, just having fun wit ya.

     
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    In response to slomag's comment:

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    In response to A_Concerned_Citizen's comment:

     

    [QUOTE]

     

     

     

    In response to StalkingButler's comment:

     

     

    So you're saying voter ID laws are contributing to voter fraud and dis-enfranchisement in Kenya?

     

     

    I'm typing slowly so you can understand. The OP is pointing out the hypocrisy of the President promoting a program in another country that his administration agressively fights against in our own country. It's a good idea in Kenya. It's a good idea in the US. That's all.

     

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    Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.




    Key phrase being "another country".

     

    But don't let those pesky facts get in the way of a good old fashioned neo-con pseudo-scandal or something...

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Why is the issue different in another country?

    Identification is used to verify you are whom you claim to be. Kenya wants to have elections which are honest and scandal free. So it has IDs issued to voters..obviously a step forward.

    Yet in the US, the Obama Adminstration doesnt care a whit about potential vote fraud. It is almost like they would desire a voting precinct to have 125% voter turnout, with every single vote of thousands cast for one candidate...

     

     

    [/QUOTE]

    Unbelievable.  We need to send $50M to Kenya so more people are allowed to vote, and conservatives see it as a model for the US.  To fix a problem that doesn't exist.  Let's remember that the next time you're b1tching about an IRS party in Las Vegas or a government study you think is useless.

     

     

     

     

     

    [/QUOTE]


    What's good enough for Kenya is good enough for the U.S. 

     

    But, spending 50 mil in Kenya means we need to borrow 50 mil from the chinese, so why don't we just eliminate the middleman and tel lthe chinese to do it.

    [/QUOTE]

    Or we can not fix what's not broken, and not spend a cent.

     
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    Re: WH Touts Kenyan Program to Obtain National ID Cards for Voter Registration

    In response to A_Concerned_Citizen's comment:

    In response to StalkingButler's comment:

     

    Correct me if I am wrong...but you are required in the US to show and ID and prove residence when you register to vote. No different than what this fact sheet is suggesting. This has nothing to do with Voter ID...which supports showing ID and proving residency at the time one exercises their right to vote...even though they have already done so when they registered.

     

     

    So if everyone has already proven the ability to show ID why then is it a problem at all? Clearly everyone that's registered to vote has an ID and can prove that they're a registered voter right? Why then would the administration claim that voter ID laws are discriminatory? This just doesn't make any sense.

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    If I register my car, I don't get asked for that registration everytime I utilize a public way.

    I do get asked for that registration when there is a suspicion of wrongdoing.

    Showing up to vote, as much as the neo-cons would like to think otherwise, is not a suspicious activity.

     



    "We need to send $50M to Kenya so more people are allowed to vote, and conservatives see it as a model for the US.  To fix a problem that doesn't exist."

    Progressives bellyached in 2000 about our voting system, and then went all loony conspiracy-theory in 2004 about how Bush stole Ohio...

    And yet you now claim our voting system has no problems....as long as you win, there are no problems... got it.

     
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    Re: WH Touts Kenyan Program to Obtain National ID Cards for Voter Registration

    In response to miscricket's comment:

    In response to StalkingButler's comment:

     

     

    So you're saying voter ID laws are contributing to voter fraud and dis-enfranchisement in Kenya?

     

     

    I'm typing slowly so you can understand. The OP is pointing out the hypocrisy of the President promoting a program in another country that his administration agressively fights against in our own country. It's a good idea in Kenya. It's a good idea in the US. That's all.

     

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    Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.




    Correct me if I am wrong...but you are required in the US to show and ID and prove residence when you register to vote. No different than what this fact sheet is suggesting. This has nothing to do with Voter ID...which supports showing ID and proving residency at the time one exercises their right to vote...even though they have already done so when they registered.

     




    You are wrong.

    "Kenya's electoral body, the Independent Electoral and Boundaries Commission (IEBC) requires that to cast a ballot, Kenyans must show the new ID cards....."

    Obviously, then,  Kenya is discriminating against black people, whom we are told by liberals are just unable to get an ID!

     

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