Why is the Liberal Media ignoring the problems with Obamacare?

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    Why is the Liberal Media ignoring the problems with Obamacare?

    If you can question the medias handling of the shutdown, you can question the medias handling of the problems with Obamacare.

     
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    Re: Why is the Liberal Media ignoring the problems with Obamacare?

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    If you can question the medias handling of the shutdown, you can question the medias handling of the problems with Obamacare.

    B I N G O  !!!  Great post Skeeter..... I love your common sense !!!


     
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    Re: Why is the Liberal Media ignoring the problems with Obamacare?

    No one is ignoring the "problems" with Obamacare (ACA). I can't read an article on line or see a report about the ACA that doesn't also contain a reference to some perceived weakness.

    ACA represents a compromise. In a compromise, not every party gets everything they want..so you are always going to have people who are unhappy about some aspect of it. It doesn't mean it shouldn't be done. The best course of action is to forge ahead and as problems arise, work to address them. It's not a difficult concept to grasp and it's a fact of life for every single other law that has been enacted or passed.

    "It is not down in any map...trueplaces never are...." ( Melville)

     
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    Re: Why is the Liberal Media ignoring the problems with Obamacare?

    miscricket, the only compromise was in how far towards single payer we could go without paying to heavy of a political price. The only compromise here was based on policital calculus within the Democrat party. The GOP wasn't included in any compromise, they were told to sit down and shut up.

    Much like what is still going on.

     

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    Re: Why is the Liberal Media ignoring the problems with Obamacare?

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    miscricket, the only compromise was in how far towards single payer we could go without paying to heavy of a political price. The only compromise here was based on policital calculus within the Democrat party. The GOP wasn't included in any compromise, they were told to sit down and shut up.

    Much like what is still going on.

     

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    But..that's the thing. This budget battle has literally nothing to do with the ACA. There doesn't have to be a compromise now. All Boehner has to do is put a clean CR on the floor of the house for a vote. It will pass. The votes are there. This is Boehner allowing himself to be held hostage by a small percentage of his caucus. The GOP and split and broken.

     
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    Re: Why is the Liberal Media ignoring the problems with Obamacare?

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    If you can question the medias handling of the shutdown, you can question the medias handling of the problems with Obamacare.



    What problems are you referring to?

     
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    Re: Why is the Liberal Media ignoring the problems with Obamacare?

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    If you can question the medias handling of the shutdown, you can question the medias handling of the problems with Obamacare.

     



    What problems are you referring to?

     




    You beat me to it.  Get ready for another laundry list of previolusly debunked myths.

     
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    Re: Why is the Liberal Media ignoring the problems with Obamacare?

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    If you can question the medias handling of the shutdown, you can question the medias handling of the problems with Obamacare.

     



    What problems are you referring to?

     

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    Let's start with these:

    http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2013/10/01/health-insurance-markets-open-success-to-be-seen/

    http://thehill.com/blogs/healthwatch/health-reform-implementation/325975-officials-tight-lipped-on-early-obamacare-enrollment-glitches

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/oct/1/obama-now-says-obamacare-will-bring-months-glitche/

     

    It's not ready.  Foisting it on the American people, whether or not you are for it philosophically, is stupid.

     
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    Re: Why is the Liberal Media ignoring the problems with Obamacare?

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    If you can question the medias handling of the shutdown, you can question the medias handling of the problems with Obamacare.

     



    What problems are you referring to?

     

     




    You beat me to it.  Get ready for another laundry list of previolusly debunked myths.

     

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    Get readdy to shut your mouth you jackbooted thug.

     
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    Re: Why is the Liberal Media ignoring the problems with Obamacare?

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    If you can question the medias handling of the shutdown, you can question the medias handling of the problems with Obamacare.

     

     



    What problems are you referring to?

     

     



    Let's start with these:

     

    http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2013/10/01/health-insurance-markets-open-success-to-be-seen/

    http://thehill.com/blogs/healthwatch/health-reform-implementation/325975-officials-tight-lipped-on-early-obamacare-enrollment-glitches

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/oct/1/obama-now-says-obamacare-will-bring-months-glitche/

     

    It's not ready.  Foisting it on the American people, whether or not you are for it philosophically, is stupid.




    System glitches due to heavy volume.  Thats your gripe? 

    I'm not an IT guy, but I suspect this is common with most large releases.  The bugs get fixed and the applications stabilize. 

    And high demand sounds good to me. Problems caused by high demand are the kind of problems that every business wants.

     
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    Re: Why is the Liberal Media ignoring the problems with Obamacare?

    System glitches which are a problem with bandwidth and the local IT infrastructure of the exchanges are not problems with Obamacare.  They literally have nothing to do with one another.  If anything, these problems suggest that the public has overwhelmingly rushed - enmass- to get themselves enrolled.  Which is curious since the GOPers continue claim that the public at large HATES ACA.  

     

     
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    Re: Why is the Liberal Media ignoring the problems with Obamacare?

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    miscricket, the only compromise was in how far towards single payer we could go without paying to heavy of a political price.


    Yeah. I guess when Dems storm the Presidency and Congress after an election in which their campaign was on two issues: Health Care  and The Economy.... 

    ...that means that their mandate from the voters is to do whatever the Republicans ask.

     

    Funny. They did. Because Obamacare = Romneycare = Republican ideas from the 90s.

     

     

    But there was a D next to the name so suddenly the Rs opposed their own ideas.

     

     

     

     

     

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    [QUOTE] The GOP wasn't included in any compromise, they were told to sit down and shut up. [/QUOTE]

    Aw shucks.

    I guess the next time a D is elected President and they want to keep the possibility of negotiating with him open....

     

    maybe they shouldnt promise to oppose everything he wants in order to break him and make him a one term President.



     

    Funny how not one conservative here ever has been able to deal with that little problem right there. Contradicts the party line I guess.

     

     
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    Re: Why is the Liberal Media ignoring the problems with Obamacare?

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    In response to FortySixAndTwo's comment:

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    If you can question the medias handling of the shutdown, you can question the medias handling of the problems with Obamacare.

     

     



    What problems are you referring to?

     

     

     

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    Let's start with these:

     

    http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2013/10/01/health-insurance-markets-open-success-to-be-seen/

    http://thehill.com/blogs/healthwatch/health-reform-implementation/325975-officials-tight-lipped-on-early-obamacare-enrollment-glitches

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/oct/1/obama-now-says-obamacare-will-bring-months-glitche/

     

    It's not ready.  Foisting it on the American people, whether or not you are for it philosophically, is stupid.

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    System glitches happen in every industry and quite honestly are expected. Familiar with Microsoft? Apple? 

    In the age of computers glitches are par for the course unfortunately. In other words...meh.

     

     
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    Re: Why is the Liberal Media ignoring the problems with Obamacare?

    In response to skeeter20's comment:

    If you can question the medias handling of the shutdown, you can question the medias handling of the problems with Obamacare.



    I can see you and I will disagree about a handful of issues (not all). BUt we do agree (though not in every aspect) that the NEWS media does not do their job. A democracy fairs much better or even requires at least a fairly informed electorate... And there are almost no more jouralists. Instead of journalists (investigative or otherwise) we have CELEBRITIES whose goal and purpose is to make themselves rich, and make money for their employers who are in the business of "entertainment" not delivering the news. TO that end it is in the interest of these celebreties to stir things up like a hornets nest.

    There are real issues and problems that confront us locally, acorss our states, across the nation and even across the globe. With the death of journalism and the replacement of them by professional celebrities, we get division, followed by scapegoating, followed by by animosity, followed by deep anger and hatred. Yes there are some real differences. But the actual fact is that we... voters... mostly hold similar moral and ethical values. How those translate differs somewhat but the differences are hugely magnified by businesses and celebrities whose fortunes are increased by our divide.

    One central issue confronting us is the institution of legalized (and illegal) bribery that rules our government. Both parties are directly engaged in this. Neither is excempt or less guilty in this. Neither. And the voters, who often agree on this very critical, central problem find ourselves divded and angry with EACH OTHER! It is divide and conquer. It is divide and make money on our emotional responses.

    THis is not a liberal media or conservative media thing. This is government based on bribery and incendiary "entertainment that pretends to be news and reporting.

    It is easy to be short and even fed up with each other... but if you see the truth in the basic ideas I am laying out here we should be finding a way to UNITE to change these two things... most especially government but even the availability of news as well... And the latter must come strictly and idependently of government altogether.

     

     
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    Re: Why is the Liberal Media ignoring the problems with Obamacare?

    Sounds like someone was ignoring all of the media reports for years prior to the ACA becoming law concerning lack of affordable insurance for the working poor, record personal bankruptcies due to outrageous medical bills, denials of coverage over pre-existing conditions and chronic illness, mediocre quality of care (by any reasonable western standard), unexplained price fluctuations for identical services, the damage to the deficit from runaway health care costs, etc., etc....

     

     

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