Weaning

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    Weaning

    We went to the GI specialist (bc of blood in DS stool) and learned that it's not harmful to him to have the blood once in a while.  He is happy, healthy and gaining weight.  His one concern is that if I continue to bf until he starts solids, he does not have the chance to build up immunity to the things that he is sensitive to..babies usually outgrow these sensitivities by 1 year. He makes a very good case for switching to formula soon, really to let his system rest.  He is not pushing me in any way to switch to a hypoallergenic formula, he is pro bf, but did tell me the benefits.   He left the decision up to me for when to switch. 
       So w/o going into too much detail about all of this, I think that I'll have him on the formula when I go back to work in Sept.  I'm a teacher and thinking about pumping at work gives me stress already! This may be a blessing in disguise, so I won't have to worry about pumping.  On the other hand, even thinking about stopping bf makes me upset.  
      Anyways, the real question behind this post is how should I start to wean?  I can't find much info about it online.  I would like to have him on formula only by the middle of Aug. I'm sure I start with cutting out one feeding. How long do I do just cut out the one feeding..when to cut out more?  I know the early morning and night feeding will be last to go..  Any advice is appreciated! I've heard weaning can be a loooong process..
     
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    Weird advice, but I'm not a doctor so I can't help you there.  If you're to build up his tolerance to stuff through regular formula, would it just work for you to do formula during the day and nurse on weekends and nights?  A lot of people do that combo.  I don't understand the argument/reason to switch and you might want to get a second opinion or talk to an LC about it as well.  If you're stressed about pumping at work, would that be a better solution for you?  That way you don't have to give up bf, but you also don't have to worry about pumping at work.  Your body will figure it out pretty quickly.

    That being said, my related weaning happens when I stop pumping at work around 12-13 months.  When I do that, I cut out one pumping session at a time and gradually reduce the amount that I pump at work.  I do that over a period of about a month or so.  Then at that point, I'm comfortable enough to go through the day without pumping, but then I can nurse at home on nights and weekends (sounds like a cell phone plan).  With that plan, I still nursed DD until she was about 21 months old, but I didn't have to do any pumping at work.

    Hope that helps!  
     
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    Lost, my thoughts exactly. I am thinking that doing formula when I'm not home will work well then bf in the a.m. and p.m and weekends.. I'll still need to wean him from the day time feedings.
     
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    I would say just try starting off by substituting one of your regular daytime feedings with a bottle of formula and go from there.  How old will he be when you go back to work?
    You might want to start trying now.  If he is older than 4 weeks and hasn't had a bottle yet he might resist.  We introduced a bottle of pumped breast milk at 3 weeks to try to get my daughter used to it in preparation for me going back to work.  She was EXTREMELY resistant.  Of course, a lot of that is personality.  If he does resist the formula you might find success with having someone else besides you feeding him the bottle.  For us, I had to leave the house for her to take a bottle of MY milk from anyone.  I don't know if formula would make it easier or harder.  If he can't smell your milk (he can smell you when you're in the house, even if you don't have the girls out for some air haha) he will probably be more likely to cooperate with the whole substitution thing. 
    Good luck!
    PS - you will probably have a lot of success with feeding breastmilk in the mornings and at night and formula during the day.  Once my daughter hit 12 months I stopped pumping at work and only fed when I was home and my supply kept going strong.
     
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    I BF my DD who is now grown and even though this advice is old, it worked for me and came from my doctor back then.  I took away one feeding for 3 days after that another feeding for 3 days etc. until I was down to one feeding a day.  It is also less painful that way.  I was amazed though my millk would only come in that one time a day.  Mother nature had me in awe.  Hope this helps!

     
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    You are correct in having someone else feed him the bottle. I had to do that with my DD.  She put up quite the fight when I would try so my DH had to do it.  Very hard to go through, but it made weaning easier.

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    [QUOTE]I would say just try starting off by substituting one of your regular daytime feedings with a bottle of formula and go from there.  How old will he be when you go back to work? You might want to start trying now.  If he is older than 4 weeks and hasn't had a bottle yet he might resist.  We introduced a bottle of pumped breast milk at 3 weeks to try to get my daughter used to it in preparation for me going back to work.  She was EXTREMELY resistant.  Of course, a lot of that is personality.  If he does resist the formula you might find success with having someone else besides you feeding him the bottle.  For us, I had to leave the house for her to take a bottle of MY milk from anyone.  I don't know if formula would make it easier or harder.  If he can't smell your milk (he can smell you when you're in the house, even if you don't have the girls out for some air haha) he will probably be more likely to cooperate with the whole substitution thing.  Good luck! PS - you will probably have a lot of success with feeding breastmilk in the mornings and at night and formula during the day.  Once my daughter hit 12 months I stopped pumping at work and only fed when I was home and my supply kept going strong.
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    Thanks Lissafro and amber. DS refused the bottle for weeks, but we're in a much better place now. He's pretty good with it, i'm just waiting to see how he likes the formula! I'll prob mix 1/2 and 1/2 with b.milk to start. 
     
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    [QUOTE]Thanks Lissafro and amber. DS refused the bottle for weeks, but we're in a much better place now. He's pretty good with it, i'm just waiting to see how he likes the formula! I'll prob mix 1/2 and 1/2 with b.milk to start. 
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    I've been wondering if you start off by replacing one feeding with formula or if you should do half BM & half formula.  I have a feeling my supply isn't going to keep up with DD.  I usually have to use a few ounces of frozen milk as it is.
     
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    Fram, I don't like mixing BM and formula b/c if they don't finish the whole bottle, then the BM is wasted.  There's nothing worse than having to dump hard earned BM!! 
     
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    agree about mixing - formula is only good for an hour after its mixed, unless you put it in the fridge then its 24 hours. Not worth risking the loss of the breastmilk!

    ajuly, I just wanted to say I can relate - as always - in regards to being upset about giving up breastfeeding. I technically gave it up around 8 weeks, but have been pumping ever since and still breastfeeding on occasion when I am at home and can do it. 3 weeks into work and I'm barely pumping enough to get her through the next day +  one or two bottles of formula. I am at the point where I'm trying to decide if it is worth continuing to pump/BF, or if I should throw in the towel.

    I think your strategy sounds good - and you'll do what you can, and whatever that is is great. Your DS is off to a great start to life with the breastfeeding you've been able to do so be proud of that and don't stress too much if you have to give it up completely.
     
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    Buy one or two each of a few different kinds of bottles and attachments--so you can see if the baby has an easier time with one kind or another.  Then go out and get a bunch of that kind.

    And can I just say it was nice to see

    He makes a very good case for switching to formula soon, really to let his system rest.  He is not pushing me in any way to switch to a hypoallergenic formula, he is pro bf, but did tell me the benefits.   He left the decision up to me for when to switch. 

    Someone with a moderate position based on what will actually work best for the baby and mom?  What a concept!

     
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    So DS doesn't like the formula very much!  Since I won't be able to pump at work I'm wondering if it's possible to pump enough when I'm at home to give DS bm bottles during the day when I'm at work. This would mean I wouldn't pump/feed him between about 7:30-4pm.  Anyone have experience with this?  I'd need to get enough milk for 4, 4oz bottles.  I know that the amt. of milk varies from person to person, but wondering if it's possible to just pump in a.m. and p.m. and have enough...
     
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    ajuly - it's likely that your supply would greatly decrease if you go 7:30-4pm without pumping or nursing.  Your body will interpret that as you not needing the milk.  At first you will probably be able to get 4 4oz bottles with just a few morning and evening pumping sessions (if you currently have good supply), but just be aware that soon your body will think you don't need that much milk, and you'll likely notice a decrease.  Can you try different formulas? Is it totally impossible to pump at all at work?
     
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    That's what I figured.  I can possibly pump around 1pm...which will be better than nothing! I'm a teacher in a room with all windows, I may have to go into the closet. Time to clean that closet out I guess..
       It's a prescription formula, and I guess the best tasting out of the lot.  We can try switching to a different brand but I guess the others are not much better. 
     
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    I agree with Poppy that it probably wouldn't work out for long.  Plus they start needing more oz faster than you think!!  DD is up to three 6 oz bottles while at daycare and I definitely do not get 18 oz when I pump at work.  You're doing great, though, and all you can do is try your best!
     
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    which precription is it?  If they have a Ready to Feed version of it (Alimentum has one) that seems to work better than the powdered.  If it is Elecare or Neocate I think they only come in powder.
     
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    Actually, it works out fine for me on certain days when I forget to pump in the morning or when I'm at a client where I don't really have anywhere to pump.  You could pump in the morning in your car right when you get to work (or not if you just nursed before you left), then at 1:00 and then right before you go home.  That should be plenty and your supply should be able to keep up as long as you drink enough during the day and you don't have any other issues that crop up.

    I nurse around 6:00 or 7:00 a.m., pump around 11 and 3 (or if I forget or am busy, just once at 1:00 or 2:00 or so) and I haven't had any supply issues.  My DS only takes 12oz a day (3 4oz bottles).

    By the time you go back to work, you'll be on a supply and demand schedule with BF, so if you can only pump once per day, it still might be enough if you pump 8oz at that sitting and then right before you go home.  

    Ajuly--I also pump in a closet.  It's not glamorous but it works.  Good luck with your decision.  How's the baby doing?
     
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    [QUOTE]  it still might be enough if you pump 8oz at that sitting and then right before you go home.  
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    Wow!  Most I've ever pumped at one sitting is 4-5 oz... and I thought I had good supply!!

    ajuly - I feel for all bfing teachers out there - impossible to get any pumping privacy!!  Maybe you could run out to your car at lunch to pump for even 8 or so minutes?  Of course, this would only work if your school parking lot does not directly face the playground, like mine used to do...
     
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    Ajuly I too am a teacher and our school created a lactation room because of the laws requiring a place for nursing mothers.  Is there anyway to talk to your principal about a place for you to pump other than the closet?  Before the room was created a big staff bathroom was set up with a nice table for nursing moms in our building who needed to pump.

    I'm with you poppy the most I have ever pumped at one sitting was 4 oz. but I had a friend who only pumped once during the day during her planning block and got 10 oz. (5 from each side).
     
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    DS is on Alimentum, I was wondering if the pre-mixed stuff would be better. I'm thinking of trying to mix a little tiny bit at a time with the bm, but am worried about wasting all that precious milk! 
       For some reason I never thought about pumping before I left school too, it takes about 1/2 hr to get home, wonder if that's enough time to get more milk in before I feed DS again.  If i do that consistently, then I guess my body will start to make more in response. 
       Our school has little unoccupied space, and even when we have big meetings, sometimes we don't have room for it.. I can ask my principal, but I am thinking that cleaning out my closet will be easiest since it's so close, we have a big school and the time it takes to walk to the other side and back to pump may not be worth it.  As a teacher seconds count..can't have a room with kids in it w/o me! I think I only plan on trying to pump for Sept, Oct, so dealing with it for 2 mon won't be that bad. 
     The only time I pump a lot of milk is 1st thing in the morning, I can get 6-7 oz.  Other than that if I pump to feed DS a bottle, i only get like 2.5, so I need to add milk from another session to even get him one 4 oz. bottle.  
    Lost, thanks for asking DS took some formula today but I think it was a fluke, it was after a bm bottle and i snuck it in!  
     
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    I believe your work HAS to provide you the time to pump. As a teacher, this means getting coverage for your class. I can understand if you don't want to make waves and force the issue, but if you do, I think it is your legal right.
    I am also a teacher and plan to at least try pumping all through next year. The leaving my classroom part won't be too difficult for me because I teach HS and can give the students a writing assignment or other activity they can work on without me for a little bit. I was going to ask for coverage, but am good friends with the teacher next door and she volunteered to just open the door between our rooms. 
     
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    Your work has to give you pumping breaks and a sanitary (non-bathroom) room in which to do it. http://www.dol.gov/whd/nursingmothers/

    Whether you continue to pump or nurse is up to you, but if you want to continue to nurse you'll probably need to do at least one pumping session.


     
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    I think that I will tell my principal a/b the law and have someone cover for me for at least one session, i'll actually have time to pee this way!
     
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    ajuly,
    keep trying to 'sneak' that prescription formula in, even after you give him a bm bottle - you'll probably get him to like it eventually, although we had one baby at our center who HATED that - and we have another who is fine with it as long as it's the powdered but not the ready to drink - or vice versa, I don't remember! 

    oh, and check out walgreens, I think I was told by one parent that they often have coupons for that formula so you can get a bit off - it's really expensive!
     

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