Re: Another fact why Savard may be odd-man out...
posted at 6/13/2010 4:26 PM EDT
In Response to Re: Another fact why Savard may be odd-man out...
NOS, You know I enjoy reading your posts and have no problem debating with the best. What organizations do you see as being top flight organizations? I will throw Detroit as one of the obvious ones. You don't think the loyalty that management shows the players has nothing to do with the top notch UFA's they have signed over the last 10 yrs or since the cap was implemented? I totally get what you are saying in regards to money speaks louder than loyalties etc etc...but players do choose based on where their friends are located and the amount of class an organization shows and drive towards winning...if money was the only factor everyone would be lining up to play in Long Island and Atlanta... I am actually friends with Glen Murray(grew up and played hockey with him in B'Water) and he is tight with Thorton and signed a long term deal based on the fact that he would be here. It does rip through teams. I think hockey is different then all the other sports b/c these players are family...most of them from small towns in Canada...I am getting a bit off the topic but the point is that these players do follow money...but not in all cases...a lot will follow their agents advice and own personal knowledge of who is running the team, who plays on the team and the odds of winning. And of course cash. I get what you are saying, but to totally throw my thoughts under the bus is wrong...players are influenced by the mighty dollar...but that isn't the only factor.
Posted by shuperman
I wasn't attempting to throw your thoughts under the bus. I was, and have been, attempting to remove the focus people keep putting on "if they do this now, how does it effect what happens with others in the future" as a primary motive for doing business in hockey.
Murray signing was seen as a way to get Thornton under contract, and Murray was signed first, but whatever.
Sure, players sign with teams because their friends are there, because management is kind, because there is a legit chance to win the Cup coming soon etc. There are many, many, many reasons for someone to sign with a team. Let's use Detroit as an example. If they have Yzerman, Hull, Fedorov and Lidstrom, is a free agent going to be hesitant to sign there if they had signed a player with a NTC and then asked him to waive it for the good of the team?
Of course not.
Let's take a look at Washington. They really botched the Michael Nylander deal, but Backstrom just signed a 10 year deal.
Tampa is a train wreck, but Ohlund signed a 7 year deal there.
My whole point is that people think the idea of not hurting a players feelings comes before making good personell decisions.
Top flight as in what? How they treat their players? Constant competitiveness? Team cohesiveness? Stability?