Re: Goaltending: God forbid we're happy
posted at 7/30/2010 8:44 AM EDT
I held off with ignoring foolish statements as long as I could. This one is so full of poor info I had to offer the counterpoints.
In Response to Re: Goaltending: God forbid we're happy
In Response to Re: Goaltending: God forbid we're happy : To be fair I had no problem with Thomas making 5 million on a shortterm deal. My problem was & is the terms & the fact that he has a NMC & is considered a 35+ contract which has backed the Bruins into a corner.
This is going to be the second year, so the B's would be here regardless of the other two years, unless you feel he would have taken a one year deal. I want to point out, according to this statement, you're upset about what is going to happen in the future...even though you don't have a clue what is going to happen in the future. Therefore, your entire argument against Thomas is rendered invalid. But let's pick it apart anyway.
[QUOTE]How many of them goalies you are comparing to Thomas spent the playoffs as a backup?[/QUOTE]
For expensive goaltenders on the bench, look no further than the Stanley Cup Champs.
[/QUOTE] How many of them had one of the top goalie prospects in the world ready to step in within a couple of years of signing there contract? [QUOTE]
I'm going to guess you have no long term memory or you just started watching hockey in the past couple of years. "Top goaltending prospects" generally don't become "top goaltenders". It would be eternally foolish to hedge the future of the franchise on a top goaltending prospect that was ready to step in within a couple of years.
[QUOTE]As for coming off the Vezina. I believe Thomas was actually signed before it was announced that he won the Vezina. Also, I admit I have never been a fan of Thomas or his style. Jim Carey won a Vezina as well. [/QUOTE]
And there it is. All of this is based on the fact that you don't like him, but it isn't based on the facts or logic.
[QUOTE]But I really feel that both Thomas, Rask & even Fernandez when healthy have taken advantage of a great goalie system where a lot of the shots are from the perimeter. The difference is Rask is 22 yrs old & is sound technically while Thomas tends to flop & rely on instincts. [/QUOTE]
Three goaltenders do well due to the defense, but only one gets kudos because of his age and how he looks while doing his job.
[QUOTE]As for the Thomas contract or the Bs been pressured into signing him. Do you really believe that another team would have given Thomas a 4 yr deal at that money & a NMC given the fact that he was a 35+ contract? I don't believe so. He would have got the money but the term & perks that came with the contract would have been dangerous for any team. Chia lost in every aspect of that deal.[/QUOTE]
It is unknown what he would have gotten, so debating it is fruitless.
[QUOTE]To this point I have yet to see any writer question Chia on these contracts & have him verify he made a mistake about the 35+ part of the contract. If it is true that he didn't realize Thomas would be a 35+ contract when he signed the deal then Chia should be held accountable for that. But it appears the writers in Boston would rather write fluff pieces about there "sources" then actually hold Chia & the overvalued players accountable.[/QUOTE]
Somehow, this is the fault of Tim Thomas? Fluto writes fluff instead of grilling Chiarelli, so let's hang the goaltender.
[QUOTE]This is what is wrong with this team right now. No accountability from the management team or the players. Until that changes this team will continue to be a dissapointment in the playoffs. If Chia made this mistake in Toronto he would be blasted by the media. In Boston the writers (especially on this site) & reporters appear to be scared to ask the tough questions.
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I think it's more probable that the B's improve in the playoffs due to players like Seguin and the increased skills of Krejci, Lucic, Bergeron and Rask than it is that they continue to disappoint in the playoffs due to the Globe writers not being hard on the GM.
So, in closing, I would like to apologize to everyone for this long, drawn out response to this poster. I feel that spewing all of this misinformation is detrimental to the members here, and is exactly how board viruses get started. Hopefully this poster will see that his dislike of Tim Thomas has clouded his eyes and re-arranged his thoughts while the actual facts about Tim Thomas seem to be the exact opposite of what he thinks.