Bottom line why Seguin was sent packing

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    Bottom line why Seguin was sent packing

    With all major decisions like this there's never one specific reason for why but rather a combination of many reasons that play a part in the process be it in sports or life in general, and the combination of reasons in this case are very evident. was $$$ a factor? obviously after todays transactions.was the immaturity a factor? absolutely! as was the lack of production in the playoffs and lack of superstar potential capibility in arguably the biggest Stanley Cup match ever creating an ever lasting legacy as not being the superstar game breaker in the big game that all of us expected him to be. but the bottom line at the end of the day was the kids LACK OF BALLS! that dont fit Bruins hockey and i believe might have something to do with this

    http://espn.go.com/boston/nhl/story/_/id/7161154/sources-boston-bruins-tyler-seguin-predisposed-hip-injury

    http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2011/10/29/could-hip-problems-cut-tyler-seguins-career-short/

    The hard part for Bruins fans is ackowledging the fact the kid is only 21 years old leaving us wondering how good he'll be when he finally does become a man. but if the hip condition that Seguin denies exists is a factor would he ever have lived up to expectations in the future? only time will tell.............I wish him luck in Dallas and thank the kid for his contributions in Boston.

    And dont think for one minute Cam Neely's frustration with Tylers wimpy play didn't influence Chia's decision because it did bigtime.


    Thorton - Kessel - Seguin - = one in the same?


    On a side note: If anyone thinks Kessel and the Leafs are laughing they couldn't be more wrong. Kessel and the Leafs will be crying forever after losing a series like that and probabably never be able to over come a choke job that massive...........Laughing

     

     
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    Someone had to go. Bruins had 3 high quality centers aswell as two wingers making big bucks. Seguin ended up being the guy, probably his lack of production and off the ice problems had something to do with it, and because he was able to bring a good haul of players in return. I like the trade for both sides, if it wasn't Seguin it would have most likely been Krejci. After what we've seen Krejci do in the playoffs there's no way they'd want to trade him.

     
     
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    In response to riptide757's comment:

    With all major decisions like this there's never one specific reason for why but rather a combination of many reasons that play a part in the process be it in sports or life in general, and the combination of reasons in this case are very evident. was $$$ a factor? obviously after todays transactions.was the immaturity a factor? absolutely! as was the lack of production in the playoffs and lack of superstar potential capibility in arguably the biggest Stanley Cup match ever creating an ever lasting legacy as not being the superstar game breaker in the big game that all of us expected him to be. but the bottom line at the end of the day was the kids LACK OF BALLS! that dont fit Bruins hockey and i believe might have something to do with this

    http://espn.go.com/boston/nhl/story/_/id/7161154/sources-boston-bruins-tyler-seguin-predisposed-hip-injury

    http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2011/10/29/could-hip-problems-cut-tyler-seguins-career-short/

    The hard part for Bruins fans is ackowledging the fact the kid is only 21 years old leaving us wondering how good he'll be when he finally does become a man. but if the hip condition that Seguin denies exists is a factor would he ever have lived up to expectations in the future? only time will tell.............I wish him luck in Dallas and thank the kid for his contributions in Boston.

    And dont think for one minute Cam Neely's frustration with Tylers wimpy play didn't influence Chia's decision because it did bigtime.


    Thorton - Kessel - Seguin - = one in the same?


    On a side note: If anyone thinks Kessel and the Leafs are laughing they couldn't be more wrong. Kessel and the Leafs will be crying forever after losing a series like that and probabably never be able to over come a choke job that massive...........Laughing

     



    Did you see the front page of the Toronto Sun today,I think the editor must have been one of fans standing out side crying like a baby.

     
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    In response to riptide757's comment:

    With all major decisions like this there's never one specific reason for why but rather a combination of many reasons that play a part in the process be it in sports or life in general, and the combination of reasons in this case are very evident. was $$$ a factor? obviously after todays transactions.was the immaturity a factor? absolutely! as was the lack of production in the playoffs and lack of superstar potential capibility in arguably the biggest Stanley Cup match ever creating an ever lasting legacy as not being the superstar game breaker in the big game that all of us expected him to be. but the bottom line at the end of the day was the kids LACK OF BALLS! that dont fit Bruins hockey and i believe might have something to do with this

    http://espn.go.com/boston/nhl/story/_/id/7161154/sources-boston-bruins-tyler-seguin-predisposed-hip-injury

    http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2011/10/29/could-hip-problems-cut-tyler-seguins-career-short/

    The hard part for Bruins fans is ackowledging the fact the kid is only 21 years old leaving us wondering how good he'll be when he finally does become a man. but if the hip condition that Seguin denies exists is a factor would he ever have lived up to expectations in the future? only time will tell.............I wish him luck in Dallas and thank the kid for his contributions in Boston.

    And dont think for one minute Cam Neely's frustration with Tylers wimpy play didn't influence Chia's decision because it did bigtime.


    Thorton - Kessel - Seguin - = one in the same?


    On a side note: If anyone thinks Kessel and the Leafs are laughing they couldn't be more wrong. Kessel and the Leafs will be crying forever after losing a series like that and probabably never be able to over come a choke job that massive...........Laughing

     



    I don't mean to tear apart your post rip because I know you put a lot of time into it but since you put it out there I'll make a few comments.

    First, regarding his "lack of superstar potential" in the SCF this year I don't think that is what the team's expectations were for him, evidenced by the fact that he was on the 3rd line.  No doubt his production was low, but he had his chances but just diddn't finish.  If the team's expecation was for him to be a superstar, he would have been on the first line.  And the part of TS having a "lack of balls" and "wimpy play" really doesn't carry much weight because when they drafted him they knew what they were and weren't getting.  It's not like he was going to change his style of play just because he was in Boston.

    At the end of the day, you are right - there were probably many factors that came into play when PC made his decision and you listed many.  But the one main, deciding factor was probably PC's answer to this question: "Is my team the best it can be with 6 more years of Tyler Seguin?"  We all know what his answer was.

     

     
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    With all major decisions like this there's never one specific reason for why but rather a combination of many reasons that play a part in the process be it in sports or life in general, and the combination of reasons in this case are very evident. was $$$ a factor? obviously after todays transactions.was the immaturity a factor? absolutely! as was the lack of production in the playoffs and lack of superstar potential capibility in arguably the biggest Stanley Cup match ever creating an ever lasting legacy as not being the superstar game breaker in the big game that all of us expected him to be. but the bottom line at the end of the day was the kids LACK OF BALLS! that dont fit Bruins hockey and i believe might have something to do with this

    http://espn.go.com/boston/nhl/story/_/id/7161154/sources-boston-bruins-tyler-seguin-predisposed-hip-injury

    http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2011/10/29/could-hip-problems-cut-tyler-seguins-career-short/

    The hard part for Bruins fans is ackowledging the fact the kid is only 21 years old leaving us wondering how good he'll be when he finally does become a man. but if the hip condition that Seguin denies exists is a factor would he ever have lived up to expectations in the future? only time will tell.............I wish him luck in Dallas and thank the kid for his contributions in Boston.

    And dont think for one minute Cam Neely's frustration with Tylers wimpy play didn't influence Chia's decision because it did bigtime.


    Thorton - Kessel - Seguin - = one in the same?


    On a side note: If anyone thinks Kessel and the Leafs are laughing they couldn't be more wrong. Kessel and the Leafs will be crying forever after losing a series like that and probabably never be able to over come a choke job that massive...........Laughing

     

     



    Did you see the front page of the Toronto Sun today,I think the editor must have been one of fans standing out side crying like a baby.

     

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    Yep a typical loser leaf fan.

     

     
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    Seguin really hit the booze after his best friend was in that nasty car accident. It went from therapy to completely taking over his life. These were a few tweets from last fall when he started to unravel.

     

     

    Seguin already was planning to come home, along with almost every other member of the Bruins playing overseas (Chara's reportedly already back, as is Ference, and Bergeron will leave too after the tourney).

    Derreck Moseychuk appears to be a close friend of Seguin's who was badly hurt in a car crash last night. 

     

     

     

    For months, there were whispers about polarizing Tyler Seguin, who on Thursday was shipped to Dallas. Those sources clearly were onto something, because the Bruins yesterday made the decision to part ways with the No. 2 overall pick in the 2010 draft, who they feel is headed for trouble with his nightlife pursuits. ... Multiple sources said the 21-year-old Seguin crossed the line this season with reckless partying. It apparently got so bad that during the playoffs, the Bruins ordered Seguin to live in a hotel, where a guard was hired to make sure he stayed in his room. But [Peter Chiarelli] repeatedly defended Seguin, calling him "a good kid and a terrific player" and "a tremendous package of speed and skill."

     
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    If all this stuff is true, well fine, TS doesn't play for the Bruins anymore and he's now someone else's problem.  If it's not true, we look stupid by talking about it and perpetuating it.  Either way, I've had enough.  Go B's!!




     
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    He just didn't score!

    If he scores and the B's win the cup he stays.

    Winning takes care of everything.

     
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    http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2013/07/07/stars-to-talk-with-seguin-about-social-media-slip-ups/

    And so it begins.


    "wow,check out all of the losers in here......"

    -Gerry Dee
     

     
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    Good for Mr. Sequin.  He was one of the undercurrent of players who just did not like the "Bruin GOON" mentality of Sinden-Neely-Chiarelli which was basically, "drop your gloves first, then drop them again and after you've hurt somebody, then start playing hockey.    Good for him.

     
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    Good for Mr. Sequin.  He was one of the undercurrent of players who just did not like the "Bruin GOON" mentality of Sinden-Neely-Chiarelli which was basically, "drop your gloves first, then drop them again and after you've hurt somebody, then start playing hockey.    Good for him.




    Wow. You are one of the worst posters on here.

     
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    Good for Mr. Sequin.  He was one of the undercurrent of players who just did not like the "Bruin GOON" mentality of Sinden-Neely-Chiarelli which was basically, "drop your gloves first, then drop them again and after you've hurt somebody, then start playing hockey.    Good for him.



    How many fights did the Bruins have in the playoffs? You're clearly an imbecile. 

     
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    Dallas Stars statement on Tyler Seguin

    July 7, 2013 2:07 pm by Mark Stepneski 0 Comments

    Here’s the Stars’ release:

    The Dallas Stars organization has released the following statement:

    “In no way, shape or form does the Dallas Stars organization condone or agree with the message that was sent out through Tyler Seguin’s Twitter feed last night. We’ve addressed the issue directly with Tyler and we’ll continue to work on educating our players regarding the importance of their conduct on all forms of social media.”

    http://starsinsideedge.com/2013/07/07/dallas-stars-statement-on-tyler-seguin/

     

     
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    Dallas Stars statement on Tyler Seguin

    July 7, 2013 2:07 pm by Mark Stepneski 0 Comments

    Here’s the Stars’ release:

    The Dallas Stars organization has released the following statement:

    “In no way, shape or form does the Dallas Stars organization condone or agree with the message that was sent out through Tyler Seguin’s Twitter feed last night. We’ve addressed the issue directly with Tyler and we’ll continue to work on educating our players regarding the importance of their conduct on all forms of social media.”

    http://starsinsideedge.com/2013/07/07/dallas-stars-statement-on-tyler-seguin/

     



    Seems they might be skeptical of the hacking story although I have real trouble imagining Tyler making that tweet after the way his first homophobic one went over. 

     
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    [QUOTE]Dallas Stars statement on Tyler Seguin

     

    July 7, 2013 2:07 pm by Mark Stepneski 0 Comments

    Here’s the Stars’ release:

    The Dallas Stars organization has released the following statement:

    “In no way, shape or form does the Dallas Stars organization condone or agree with the message that was sent out through Tyler Seguin’s Twitter feed last night. We’ve addressed the issue directly with Tyler and we’ll continue to work on educating our players regarding the importance of their conduct on all forms of social media.”

    http://starsinsideedge.com/2013/07/07/dallas-stars-statement-on-tyler-seguin/

     

     



    Seems they might be skeptical of the hacking story although I have real trouble imagining Tyler making that tweet after the way his first homophobic one went over. 

     

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    True dez.

    Kid has been a part of their organization for three days and they are already forced to issue an apology statement.  Inauspicious beginning.

     
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    In response to Crowls2424's comment:

    [QUOTE]Dallas Stars statement on Tyler Seguin

     

     

    July 7, 2013 2:07 pm by Mark Stepneski 0 Comments

    Here’s the Stars’ release:

    The Dallas Stars organization has released the following statement:

    “In no way, shape or form does the Dallas Stars organization condone or agree with the message that was sent out through Tyler Seguin’s Twitter feed last night. We’ve addressed the issue directly with Tyler and we’ll continue to work on educating our players regarding the importance of their conduct on all forms of social media.”

    http://starsinsideedge.com/2013/07/07/dallas-stars-statement-on-tyler-seguin/

     

     

     



    Seems they might be skeptical of the hacking story although I have real trouble imagining Tyler making that tweet after the way his first homophobic one went over. 

     

     

     

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    True dez.

     

    Kid has been a part of their organization for three days and they are already forced to issue an apology statement.  Inauspicious beginning.

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    I still can't help laughing at the idea of a bunch of gay cowboys picketing outside of Stars games.

     
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    Re: Bottom line why Seguin was sent packing

    Buyer beware





     
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    Two reasons.

    1) Cap space.

    2) Damaged goods.

     

     

     

     
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    Two reasons.

    1) Cap space.

    2) Damaged goods.

     

     

     



    3) Loui Eriksson 

     
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    Ha Love it Dez!





     
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    Two reasons.

    1) Cap space.

    2) Damaged goods.

     

     

     

     



    3) Loui Eriksson 

     

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    Nice one!

     
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    Two reasons.

    1) Cap space.

    2) Damaged goods.

     

     

     

     

     



    3) Loui Eriksson 

     

     

     

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    Nice one!

     

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    No joke though Han, Loui is a hell of a player. 

     
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    It would be interesting to hear about some of the actual specifics of Seguin's off ice behavior. For the B's to give up on him at 21 probably means that he did some pretty f'd up things, and on numerous occasions. We've all heard some rumors but what are the facts? (other than he's gone). I'd have bet my house that they were gonna give him a year to see how he responded to PC's public call out. I was away when he was traded and read about it in a NY paper a day later and was really stunned.

     
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    Two reasons.

    1) Cap space.

    2) Damaged goods.

     

     

     

     

     

     



    3) Loui Eriksson 

     

     

     

     

     

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    Nice one!

     

     

     

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    No joke though Han, Loui is a hell of a player. 

     

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    Dez threw the old curveball in on that on lol

     

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