CBA only good for players like these

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    CBA only good for players like these

    Here is a list of arbitration eligible players this year who have held their meetings and were awarded or signed to new deals.

    Note: Only one player (Mason Raymond) signed for less than what he made the year before.

    Of those listed below, there is not one I would pay to see. Even T.J. Oshie.

    This class of player are the ones racking in the money. The good ones would get their money, CBA or no CBA.

    PLAYER
    DATE 11/12 TEAM 11/12 SALARY DEAL
    Anton Stralman D July 26 NY Rangers $900,000 Two year contract
    Dale Weise RW July 25 Vancouver $605,000 One year contract
    Sergei Kostitsyn LW July 23 Nashville $2,500,000 Two years, $6,000,000
    Kaspars Daugavins LW July 23 Ottawa $600,000 One year, $635,000
    Kris Versteeg RW July 23 Florida $3,083,333 Four years, $17,600,000
    Mark Fistric D July 21 Dallas $1,250,000 One year, $1,475,000
    Mark Fayne D July 20 New Jersey $555,000 Two years, $2,600,000
    Sam Gagner C July 20 Edmonton $2,275,000 One year, $3,200,000
    Nikolai Kulemin LW/RW July 20 Toronto $2,200,000 Two years, $5,600,000
    T.J. Oshie F July 19 St. Louis $2,350,000 Five years, $20,875,000
    Kyle Quincey D July 18 Detroit $3,250,000 Two years, $7,550,000
    Raphael Diaz D July 13 Montreal $900,000 Two years, $2,450,000
    Jamie McGinn LW July 13 Colorado $680,000 Two years, $3,500,000
    Nick Bonino C July 13 Anaheim $693,000 Two years, $1,400,000
    Richard Bachman G July 12 Dallas $550,000 One year, $625,000
    T.J. Galiardi LW July 12 San Jose $700,000 One year, $950,000
    Mason Raymond RW July 9 Vancouver $2,600,000 One year, $2,275,000
    David Perron LW July 5 St. Louis $2,500,000 Four years, $15,250,000

    Hearings will be held in Toronto from July 20 to August 4, 2012

     
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    Re: CBA only good for players like these

    Raking it in? A bunch of them are making under $1M/year, and most of them are under $2M. Only 1 is making over $4M and he's a darn good player. Those making around $3M are pretty good as well.
    And let's not forget, their teams OFFERED them arbitration. And those that went and ended up with deals means they ACCEPTED the arbitor's number. And almost none of them even wound up going to arbitration, by the look of it, since abitration deals are good for only 1 year. Therefore, nearly all of those numbers were agreed upon and signed like any normal deal. I'd say just about everyone got pretty close to their value in the league's current salary structure and no one had a gun put to their head.
     
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    TD, you miss the point.

    There are a dozen or more of these guys on each team. That's why you're paying $200 a ticket.

    That's why in the next few years that $200 ticket is going to cost you $500.
     
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    I dont see it that way. Players salaries are tied to league revenues, which is based on ticket revenue, tv revenue, advertisement revenue, etc. 

    The price of the ticket is, and always will be, the amount that the Bruins' owners believe will bring in the greatest profit, without alienating the fan base.  Or, put another way, the market value.

    The guys you list here are just making their share, it is certainly not anything that drives up ticket prices.
     
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    Any increased salary no matter how one uses cost accounting will mean an increase in ticket prices.  "Wages lag behind prices is the econmic lesson" of the day.  That lesson has been lost for some thrity years but will be revisiting all of us shortly.  In other words, eventually the current ticket price will be effected by increased cost in signed contracts.  
     
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    Except that ticket prices arent set to cover player salary, they are set to maximize profit.  And take into account that tickets are not guaranteed to be sold, you can't just set them as high as you want and make as much as you want. 

    Also, all players' combined salaries are determined by % of league revenue.  When total players salaries exceed (or fall below) the 57%, all players chip in (or receive) a % of salary to (or from) an escrow fund.  This system ensures that the players receive exactly that 57% of league revenue, every year.

    It also means that signing players to more lucrative contracts does not increase ticket prices.
     
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    Collective bargaining means that the more fortunate players help the less fortunate players. I'm not sure what your point is. Do you think the players supporting a system where they all make a good wage is a bad thing?
     
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    perron oshie and versteeg are worth it. honestly i feel like the scrubs shouldn't get paid more than 100K a yaer

     
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    The notion that player salaries drive ticket prices is what the owners would like you to believe. Owners charge as much as they possibly can for their seats and still fill the place. And when they realize in order to keep the place full at the same price or higher, they pay players to make their entertainment product more appealing. They don't set payroll and then cross their fingers people will show up at the rates they "have" to charge because of the mean ol' players.
    Let's say Evgeni Malkin were to hit free agency and he said "I'm not signing for less than $9M a season for 15 seasons." No one would give him that money over that term. But someone might offer him $9M for 5 years, then less for the remaining years, and he'd have to take it, or not play and not get paid at all. A player doesn't set his value, the owners bidding on them do. Players can only get the salaries that someone is willing to give them, and that is based off of how much money the team is making and how much they change the amount the team has the opportunity to make.
    The person who pays always has the upper hand in any negotiation. At the end of the day, all the player can do is take what they're offered.
     

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