Re: Evaluating Systems: NHL vs NBA vs NFL vs MLB
posted at 8/14/2012 12:27 AM EDT
In Response to Re: Evaluating Systems: NHL vs NBA vs NFL vs MLB
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Evaluating Systems: NHL vs NBA vs NFL vs MLB : The team you mentioned above, the Oakland A's are good example of a team just not being able to compete financially. They've had some good players pass through the system over the past 10 years, that they couldn't afford to keep. You posted their respectable ticket numbers above, but the average ticket price is under $22. Lowest attendance x below average ticket prices = rough financial shape. Off the top of my head over the past 10 years they've had Giambi, Tejada, Zito, Mulder, Hudson, Damon, Dye, Harden, Haren, Foulke and Bailey leaving as free agents or traded away before their big pay day. Sure, not many of those players are worth anything now, and you could argue they were better off not keeping them, but having that type of turnover makes it tough for a team not only to compete, but build a fan base. A better example is Cleveland. Another small market team who were dominant at the turn of the century, lost Manny and others via free agency, then had to rebuild. They were a game away from making the 2007 world series, and then again couldn't afford to keep the core together. They were forced to watch 2 pitchers from that team, Cliff Lee and CC Sabathia the aces of the 2 teams that made the world series a few years after. Honestly I haven't followed baseball all that closely recently, but close enough to see the small market teams are feeders for the big market teams.
Posted by BSXIII[/QUOTE]
The A's pilfered Dye and Damon from KC. They traded Mulder for Haren. Bad examples.
Cleveland has been close twice recently. So, they didn't win it all. They had quite a run in the 90's when they had all the guys. That stadium was sold out for years upon years. They made some bad decisions, traded the wrong guys and the fans left the park.
Look at Arizona. They won it back when they had Schilling and Johnson. Same sized market, different approach by management and ownership.
20 years ago, Sox tickets were bought at the gate. Not bleachers, but behind the plate tickets. Readily available. Oakland was crusing with the Bash Brothers and the Sox were trying to make something happen with Ellis Burks and Moe Vaughn.
Baseball goes in cycles. Hot teams stay hot for a while, then disappear for a while. All but NYY, because they have more money than God. Go back 10 short years. In the middle of the pack for spending was Philadelphia and they were 24th on the attendance list. Today, they're at the top for both. They made some decent decisions and ramped up the team.
Baseball is just fine.