Re: From Twitter: Wade Belak found dead
posted at 9/9/2011 11:59 AM EDT
In Response to Re: From Twitter: Wade Belak found dead
[QUOTE]shupe, you took the words right out of my post as thats something I touched on earlier and sounds almost exactly the same as what I wrote. But here is what Im trying to say: Id bet your profession has a ton more stress than an NHL fighters job. Police officers in New York City kill themselves at a rate of 2 1/2 times more than the general population. What should we do, have no police? After all, an NHL enforcer is often referred to as the police of the game. fletch, I hadnt heard that. The last thing I saw was a couple of days ago and they still hadnt said what his cause of death was. And as far as Fedoruk is concerned, do people honestly believe the the "tough guys" are the only ones going through this stuff? Maybe the "tough guys" have some sort of mental.....I dont know....predisposition to this sort of stuff and its why theyre tough guys? But again, I was watching UFC last night and this one fight in particular had 100 more shots to the head delivered over the course of a 15 minute fight than Id bet any NHL fighter takes in his career. Again, I dont want to use unfortunate isolated incidents to push an agenda. I would honestly guess these few deaths are the results of a compromised mental capacity, not fighting. Id even go out on a limb and say if these guys had to cut it in the real world, the end results would probably be the same or worse. But again, Id like to see some hard core studies done with some REAL evidence brought forward so we can understand what, if anything is going on and what, if anything, can be done. The guys yelling that we need to stop fighting or suspend players etc., really get me going because they are simply pushing their anti-fighting agenda while using a couple of isolated tragedies as the backbone of it. They do not care about the men who lost their lives, or the loved ones they left behind, they only care about telling people that this is why fighting should be banned in hockey.
Posted by bigvig[/QUOTE]
police of the hockey world which is an entertain sport is a bit different than actual police. The stress that is often thrown our way is hard on the head. Now, saying that I am not that stressful of a person and can laugh most things off or find humor in it(even if its warped at times). And yes our(police) rate of suicide is much higher, but so is our divorce rate which often leads to other problems.
I played at univesity where fighting is banned. go watch a university game and tell me it isnt exciting...no fighting and not needed but some fast, hard hitting hockey.
I like the odd fight like I mentioned but the stress fighters are on is incredible. If you havent read Proberts book I suggest picking up a copy. I have no idea how these guys fight when they arent angry. I had a lot of fights in junior and some when I was in Wichita. Most were spur of the moment anger fights. Some were force fed and I had a really hard time doing it. Had I done it I likely could have played longer b/c I am 6'4, 240lbs and can skate. I simply didnt have that mentality.
I think there is a direct link from their role, to the hits to the head, to depression, which leads to prescribed drug abuse which likely already counters their other addictions with drugs or booze.
I think the NHL can easily live without fighters. I don't think it should be taken out of the game and personally I don't think it will. But in the police we have bi-annual medicals which includes speaking to a shrink. I can pretty much assure you nothing is in place in the NHLPA to make it manditory.
Hopefully these tragic incidents will lead to better knowledge and support groups for these players.