How much longer before Claude gets canned it needs to happen ASAP!

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    How much longer before Claude gets canned it needs to happen ASAP!

    First season good job overachieved getting them to the playoffs and going 7 with #1 seed montreal

    Second Season team has an amazing regular season but choked in the second round to team it had no bussiness loseing too.

    Third Season team had many injuries but also flat out didn;t bring any effort on many nights. Second Round of the playoffs and blew a 3-0 series lead and blew a 3-0 lead in game 7.

    4th season To this point the effort isn;t there for many games or at least a full 60.  Team seems to have no mental toughness still as they wilt in big games and you have players who blame the fans putting to much preasure on them. Tonights game vs the habs as well as the last time the bruins played in montreal tells me this team and the coach still don't get it and they won't. A coaching change is in order first and foremost. The C and chara should be examined you know our fearless leader who said the team was nervous before game 5 of the philly series last year.

    But hey listen chiarelli boast about how we are only one of 4 teams of the last 2 years to have made the second round!
     
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    I was wondering if perhaps we might step back just a little bit, and wait till the season is finally over ?  Just a thought.
     
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    7-0-1 in their last 8. 2 points out of the #1 spot in the East....and because the Bruins are down 3-0 in Montreal, it's "Fire Claude"?

    That's just idiotic.  This sounds like the hysteria that gets heard on MTL sports radio.
     
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    He's clearly just posting the response to this article from this morning:

    http://www.boston.com/sports/columnists/gasper/2011/03/hold_julien_acc.html

    "We're all accountable here."

    Those were the words of Bruins president Cam Neely in a tepid vote of confidence for coach Claude Julien, issued during a 98.5 The Sports Hub interview on Dec. 21, the day after the Bruins suffered their fourth loss in five games, and the seething Spoked-Believers were calling for an immediate end of Julien's reign of terror.

    Neely was right then, and he still is. But accountability is not just about assigning blame in bad times. It's also about passing out plaudits when they're deserved. Time to give Claude some credit, Bruins fans.

    If you ripped him for the team's demise in December then you have to praise him for a 33-game resurgence that has propelled the Bruins to the second spot in the Eastern Conference -- two points back of conference-leading Philadelphia Flyers -- entering tonight's tilt in Montreal with the Canadiens. Otherwise it's hockey hypocrisy.

    The Bruins status in the standings is a far cry from 77 (now there is a magic number) days ago in December, when they were in eighth place in the East, their Stanley Cup aspirations circling the drain. Since that time they've gone 21-8-4, including a seven-game winning streak and the first 6-0-0 road trip since the days of Orr and Esposito.

    The Bruins front office may believe that with the additions of defenseman Tomas Kaberle and third-line forwards Chris Kelly and Rich Peverley the team is, apropos of the month, a Final Four team, but it's not like someone handed Julien the 1984 Edmonton Oilers. This is not a team where you can just lace 'em up and let 'em go

    The coach makes a difference here, and he has.

    Players win games and coaches are in a no-win situation, that's always been the case.

    Was it Julien's fault that Nathan Horton went into the witness protection program for two months, or that Marc Savard wasn't sufficiently recovered from his concussion effects to be a reliable playmaking presence before his season came to a career-threatening end?

    If so, then he should get credit for the return of Milan Lucic's spuk and scoring touch or the emergence of fan favorite Brad Marchand as a second-line forward. Name another system in the NHL under which defenseman Adam McQuaid could be tied for the league lead in plus/minus. McQuaid is one of five Bruins ranked in the top 10 in the league in plus/minus.

    Look, Julien is not Scotty Bowman or Toe Blake, but he's not some clueless clod either. In three-plus seasons as the Bruins bench boss, Julien has coached and coaxed the team to points in 63 percent of his regular-season games. Only Don Cherry and Tom Johnson have posted higher points percentages among those who spent three or more seasons behind the Black and Gold bench.

    If the standard is winning the Stanley Cup then Julien falls short, along with every coach since Johnson. Julien hasn't advanced the team to the conference finals, which makes him no different than any other Bruins coach post-1992.

    He has advanced them to the second round twice in three seasons, which makes him different from quite a few, considering the team reached round two twice from 1993 to 2007, the season before Julien took over. They don't hand out trophies or hang banners (at least not in the new Garden) for making it to the conference semifinals, but before you can run the Boston Marathon you have to be able to finish a 5K.

    For a certain segment of the fanbase, Julien is always going to be judged unfavorably no matter what his results because of his approach, which is more conservative than the Tea Party. You can count on death, taxes and Julien rolling out four lines. He believes the best offense is defense, defense and more defense.

    It's not always appealing to watch, and the jury is out whether young, talented offensive-minded players can succeed under his system, which in the new NHL might ultimately spell Julien's demise. Phil Kessel, a top-five pick, chafed under its constraints and rookie Tyler Seguin, the No. 2 overall pick in the 2010 NHL Entry Draft, has become a press-box fixture when he's not riding shotgun on the fourth line.

    And as any Bruins observer can recite, the power play is 0 for its last 12.

    But there is a certain hooded coach in Foxborough who taught us a long time ago that you judge a coach by the results and not necessarily the approach. I'm not saying that Julien deserves to be compared to Bill Belichick because there is no comparison. But the 2001 Patriots weren't exactly an aesthetic masterpiece. Win something first, then worry about style points.

    Then there is the matter of last spring's epic collapse against the Flyers. The 3-0 series lead and 3-0 Game 7 leads squandered. That series and his firing in New Jersey prior to the 2007 playoffs are the most often-cited reasons for Julien being unfit. Unpredictable Devils impresario Lou Lamoriello also fired Robbie Ftorek in 2000 with eight games left in the season, so Julien was not the only one he pink-slipped prior to the postseason.

    As for the Flyers series, where was the Grady Little moment? It wasn't the ill-fated line change in Game 7 that resulted in a too-many-men-on-the-ice penalty. That was a Savard/Vladimir Sobotka production.

    Julien can't be blamed for the fact that he lost his best player, David Krejci, in the series in Game 3 and that Philadelphia added the firepower of Simon Gagne, who returned from a broken toe, in Game 4. Those health-related happenings changed the series -- and history. Gagne scored the game-winners in Game 4 and Game 7.

    That's all in the past, like the December skein. Julien will be judged from here on out on what happens this spring. That's fair.

    But to not give him credit for the Bruins' current success isn't.

     
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    funny i hadnt read that til now
     
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    Whats the excuse tonight? We put to much preasure on them? Expect Chiarelli to award claude a 10 year extension after tonight!
     
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    [QUOTE]Whats the excuse tonight? We put to much preasure on them? Expect Chiarelli to award claude a 10 year extension after tonight!
    Posted by LUCICmilan17[/QUOTE]




    How about the Habs are better?
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: How much longer before Claude gets canned it needs to happen ASAP! : How about the Habs are better?
    Posted by Road-Warrior[/QUOTE]



    On paper I don't think so. The bruins still haven't learend they can't not skate and win but I wouldn't expect any thing else from a claude julien team
     
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    IMHO..this will be Claudes final year as the B's coach.. management stepped up and gave him all the tools he needs to make it deep into the playoffs or even win the cup but.. they wont.. Why? because Claude is incapable of making adjustments from his 'stay the course' game plan. This will be his legacy and the end of a career of 'almost getting it done but not quite'. It's like the cab driver that gets you a block away from your destination.. almost there but not quite..

     
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    [QUOTE]IMHO..this will be Claudes final year as the B's coach.. management stepped up and gave him all the tools he needs to make it deep into the playoffs or even win the cup but.. they wont.. Why? because Claude is incapable of making adjustments from his 'stay the course' game plan. This will be his legacy and the end of a career of 'almost getting it done but not quite'. It's like the cab driver that gets you a block away from your destination.. almost there but not quite..
    Posted by SupportLocal81[/QUOTE]



    Another great post couldn't agree more.
     
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    [QUOTE]7-0-1 in their last 8. 2 points out of the #1 spot in the East....and because the Bruins are down 3-0 in Montreal, it's "Fire Claude"? That's just idiotic.  This sounds like the hysteria that gets heard on MTL sports radio.
    Posted by Kennedy97[/QUOTE]

    LOL
    Said by a true oppostion fan that wants the status quo.
     
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    stupid post by an uneducated fan....1 regulation loss in the last 9 games.

    Fire The Coach!!!!!

    theres just some people who are a few sandwiches short of a picnic.
     
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    [QUOTE]He's clearly just posting the response to this article from this morning: http://www.boston.com/sports/columnists/gasper/2011/03/hold_julien_acc.html By Christopher L. Gasper, Boston.com columnist "We're all accountable here." Those were the words of Bruins president Cam Neely in a tepid vote of confidence for coach Claude Julien, issued during a 98.5 The Sports Hub interview on Dec. 21 , the day after the Bruins suffered their fourth loss in five games, and the seething Spoked-Believers were calling for an immediate end of Julien's reign of terror. Neely was right then, and he still is. But accountability is not just about assigning blame in bad times. It's also about passing out plaudits when they're deserved. Time to give Claude some credit, Bruins fans. If you ripped him for the team's demise in December then you have to praise him for a 33-game resurgence that has propelled the Bruins to the second spot in the Eastern Conference -- two points back of conference-leading Philadelphia Flyers -- entering tonight's tilt in Montreal with the Canadiens. Otherwise it's hockey hypocrisy. The Bruins status in the standings is a far cry from 77 (now there is a magic number) days ago in December, when they were in eighth place in the East, their Stanley Cup aspirations circling the drain. Since that time they've gone 21-8-4, including a seven-game winning streak and the first 6-0-0 road trip since the days of Orr and Esposito. The Bruins front office may believe that with the additions of defenseman Tomas Kaberle and third-line forwards Chris Kelly and Rich Peverley the team is, apropos of the month, a Final Four team, but it's not like someone handed Julien the 1984 Edmonton Oilers. This is not a team where you can just lace 'em up and let 'em go The coach makes a difference here, and he has. Players win games and coaches are in a no-win situation, that's always been the case. Was it Julien's fault that Nathan Horton went into the witness protection program for two months, or that Marc Savard wasn't sufficiently recovered from his concussion effects to be a reliable playmaking presence before his season came to a career-threatening end? If so, then he should get credit for the return of Milan Lucic's spuk and scoring touch or the emergence of fan favorite Brad Marchand as a second-line forward. Name another system in the NHL under which defenseman Adam McQuaid could be tied for the league lead in plus/minus. McQuaid is one of five Bruins ranked in the top 10 in the league in plus/minus. Look, Julien is not Scotty Bowman or Toe Blake, but he's not some clueless clod either. In three-plus seasons as the Bruins bench boss, Julien has coached and coaxed the team to points in 63 percent of his regular-season games. Only Don Cherry and Tom Johnson have posted higher points percentages among those who spent three or more seasons behind the Black and Gold bench. If the standard is winning the Stanley Cup then Julien falls short, along with every coach since Johnson. Julien hasn't advanced the team to the conference finals, which makes him no different than any other Bruins coach post-1992. He has advanced them to the second round twice in three seasons, which makes him different from quite a few, considering the team reached round two twice from 1993 to 2007, the season before Julien took over. They don't hand out trophies or hang banners (at least not in the new Garden) for making it to the conference semifinals, but before you can run the Boston Marathon you have to be able to finish a 5K. For a certain segment of the fanbase, Julien is always going to be judged unfavorably no matter what his results because of his approach, which is more conservative than the Tea Party. You can count on death, taxes and Julien rolling out four lines. He believes the best offense is defense, defense and more defense. It's not always appealing to watch, and the jury is out whether young, talented offensive-minded players can succeed under his system, which in the new NHL might ultimately spell Julien's demise. Phil Kessel, a top-five pick, chafed under its constraints and rookie Tyler Seguin, the No. 2 overall pick in the 2010 NHL Entry Draft, has become a press-box fixture when he's not riding shotgun on the fourth line. And as any Bruins observer can recite, the power play is 0 for its last 12. But there is a certain hooded coach in Foxborough who taught us a long time ago that you judge a coach by the results and not necessarily the approach. I'm not saying that Julien deserves to be compared to Bill Belichick because there is no comparison. But the 2001 Patriots weren't exactly an aesthetic masterpiece. Win something first, then worry about style points. Then there is the matter of last spring's epic collapse against the Flyers. The 3-0 series lead and 3-0 Game 7 leads squandered. That series and his firing in New Jersey prior to the 2007 playoffs are the most often-cited reasons for Julien being unfit. Unpredictable Devils impresario Lou Lamoriello also fired Robbie Ftorek in 2000 with eight games left in the season, so Julien was not the only one he pink-slipped prior to the postseason. As for the Flyers series, where was the Grady Little moment? It wasn't the ill-fated line change in Game 7 that resulted in a too-many-men-on-the-ice penalty. That was a Savard/Vladimir Sobotka production. Julien can't be blamed for the fact that he lost his best player, David Krejci, in the series in Game 3 and that Philadelphia added the firepower of Simon Gagne, who returned from a broken toe, in Game 4. Those health-related happenings changed the series -- and history. Gagne scored the game-winners in Game 4 and Game 7. That's all in the past, like the December skein. Julien will be judged from here on out on what happens this spring. That's fair. But to not give him credit for the Bruins' current success isn't.
    Posted by dc-bruins-fan[/QUOTE]

    Couldn't read all your clod drivel, he has been a help in reviving the team from pre-clod but get a clue the team  is thriving him now not because of him, despite him. Best D and best G in the league with a good nucleus of forwards. No superstar forwards in scoring but def top 3 lines in league. His dump and change has to go, he is constantly giving up the greatest part of the game, that is puck possesion. he needs to find another way and also to straighten out the PP.

    This team can win the Stanley, even after this game, it will take 16  wins in the playoffs and this nucleus can do it, it will just be a 'greater' feat with clod behind the bench.
     
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                       His brain is incapable of adjusting.
     
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    Unbelievable.  You guys probably know that I'm completely against Claude, but give the man some credit.  A 7-game winning streak, a huge resurgence to jump from just outside the playoff bubble to 1st in the division and 2nd in the East, 15 points in the last 9 games, and 1 regulation loss in the last 9 games.  But noooo, the Bruins lose one or two games and the trolls come back out crying for Julien's head.

    Look guys, we'll know whether or not Julien will be coaching the team next year after the playoffs.  If they have another first or second round exit, then Neely will most likely fire Claude.  But, what if they go to the conference finals, or better yet, the Stanley Cup Finals?  Will you still be calling for Claude's head because they lost a few games in the playoffs? 
     
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    [QUOTE]stupid post by an uneducated fan....1 regulation loss in the last 9 games. Fire The Coach!!!!! theres just some people who are a few sandwiches short of a picnic.
    Posted by kelvana33[/QUOTE] Thank you Kelvana. Some people should just step away from their keyboards. The team is in the top four or five in the entire league and now we fire the coach?

    There should be an MVP lounge here in which only people with a certain degree of actual sports knowledge should be allowed to post.
     
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    i see all thee knee-JERK posters are out in full color! haven't heard from you in the past two weeks! wonder why? oh yeah -the b's won 7 in a row! really after EVERY loss call for the coach's job? at your rate the b's would be on their 20th coach of the season- fools... 
     
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    7-1-1, I repeat, 7-1-1 over the past 9 games.

    I understand that people are frustrated after a loss to Montreal but come on, this is just silly. Furthermore, it proves what I said a couple weeks back. After a win, crickets but after one bad loss in 9 games, the coach should be fired and the team will be one and done in the playoffs. Get real and stop rooting for the Bruins demise because you don't like the coach.

     
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    some people are happier unhappy- what a miserable way to live
     
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    [QUOTE]Unbelievable.  You guys probably know that I'm completely against Claude, but give the man some credit.  A 7-game winning streak, a huge resurgence to jump from just outside the playoff bubble to 1st in the division and 2nd in the East, 15 points in the last 9 games, and 1 regulation loss in the last 9 games.  But noooo, the Bruins lose one or two games and the trolls come back out crying for Julien's head. Look guys, we'll know whether or not Julien will be coaching the team next year after the playoffs.  If they have another first or second round exit, then Neely will most likely fire Claude.  But, what if they go to the conference finals, or better yet, the Stanley Cup Finals?  Will you still be calling for Claude's head because they lost a few games in the playoffs? 
    Posted by beantowngm15[/QUOTE]

    It takes probably the youngest poster on this board to bring a little common sense into an otherwise stupid thread. The haters of Julien will come out when the B's lose and parrot the same old reasons why they think he is a bad coach.

    The cycle will repeat itself when Julien is fired, the next coach is hired and they start losing or lose 1 game after a winning streak.

    Thanks beantown for trying to guide the adults into proper thinking. Good post !
     
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    If the B's dont make it to the SC finals, then this could be Claude's last season. This team has to get past the second round....No more Game 7 losses....
     
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    attention hockey fans....it is march 9th, the playoffs start in 5 weeks. stop making ridiculous predictions. enjoy watching the bruins- its entertainment- not real life 
     
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    Once again the Claude bashers are out in force. I don't really enjoy Claude's decisions, but let's examine the realities of last night's game. The ENTIRE defense corps was horrible in the first period, and left Tuuka out to dry. Houda and Claude must bear some responsibility. Did Claude tell them to hold back, and then they just stood around instead of skating?? What about the 3rd line? Why is Kelly so innefective? Why does Ryder HOG the puck? Peverly really hustles, but is like a one man line. The "coaching" must be part of this problem. Why is Thornton not siting against a very speedy team? Would not Paille be a better choice against Montreal? Why does Claude allow the referees to operate like blind mice? Where is the passion?  Remember how Boucher called a time out in the first period of the Tampa game? His team was not playing very well, and he wanted to change that. Claude just never thinks that way, and may be the anchor that derails this Bruins club.
     
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    [QUOTE]Once again the Claude bashers are out in force. I don't really enjoy Claude's decisions, but let's examine the realities of last night's game. The ENTIRE defense corps was horrible in the first period, and left Tuuka out to dry. Houda and Claude must bear some responsibility. Did Claude tell them to hold back, and then they just stood around instead of skating?? What about the 3rd line? Why is Kelly so innefective? Why does Ryder HOG the puck? Peverly really hustles, but is like a one man line. The "coaching" must be part of this problem. Why is Thornton not siting against a very speedy team? Would not Paille be a better choice against Montreal? Why does Claude allow the referees to operate like blind mice? Where is the passion?  Remember how Boucher called a time out in the first period of the Tampa game? His team was not playing very well, and he wanted to change that. Claude just never thinks that way, and may be the anchor that derails this Bruins club.
    Posted by bogie6[/QUOTE]

    No coach in the history of the NHL has had the power over referees to officiate the way they want them to. So why should Julien have this power ?
     
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    I don't know about firing Claude but this certainly makes you begin to question his way to make adjusments during the flow of the game. I watched Marchand fumble the puck so many times last night, and I saw ryder try to skate through four canadiens atleast three shifts. So my question to Claude is if a player isnt playing up to his capabilities on the given night why not mix up the lines? I honestly wouldnt mind seeing Marchand reuniting with the Campbell and Thornton line for a game.
     

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