Kreji possibilities

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    This is really a continuation of prior comments on Kreji. From what we've seen , he has excellent skills, when he uses them. He is on record as saying " it's tough to get up for every seasonal game". Other teams like to bang him around, and he's shown he doesn't like it. IMO this negates any thought of using both Kreji and Seguin as two of the bruins three top centers. Kreji plays well with two large wings, but not so well with one large and one speedster [ Lucic/Peverley] Bookboy has posted a good evaluation on Kreji's 2011/2012 performance. Others suggested Seguin as #1 center, and Kreji on Bergeron's wing. The decision for Peter is play him or trade him. Not for a Parise winger, but for a bigger, stronger center, who is a scorer, since Kelly was not that peice. It appears that Chiarelli will focus any replacements in the 3rd and 4th line category, and Kreji will be with us , and with more determination and game consistency.
     
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    Krejci is what he is, a very good center.  Expect another 60-70 points next season, as long as he stays healthy.  The trap with Krejci is that he plays at a high level for periods of time that leave you thinking that he is special, however he has not been able to sustain it.

    I would be ok with PC turning the page on Krejci, the guy has good value and his cap space might be better used on a player like Parise.
     
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    Seguin Bergy Krejci will be the bruins center for next season. It is the following season when Seguin Entry level contract expires then more money will be needed to sign Stevie Y Junior. Horton and Thomas contracts will be none cap isues that will give more cap space to sign Seguin long term.

    The pure fantasy of getting parise or other big names is on hold: The three main bruins within the next 4 years on PC mind are Rask sign first then the following year Seguin both a long term deal will be the most common sense, if Hamilton going to the bruins future stud d man which i think yes then that is three priority positions that the bruins will build around is completed. Goalie top center and number 1 d man when Chara retires.

    Krejci for now will be our fill in center man until the bruins mngt. can get a clearer future picture and letting go krejci this year I personally think and agree will be a big mistake. If Horton is ready next season then krejci will be back to being the top center or RW on the second line with March and Bergy.
     
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    I still have yet to see a rational argument for trading Krecji. If it is because he had a weak playoff round against the Caps then most of the team would have to go with him because few B's overachieved.

    Still waiting......
     
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    [QUOTE]This is really a continuation of prior comments on Kreji. From what we've seen , he has excellent skills, when he uses them. He is on record as saying " it's tough to get up for every seasonal game". Other teams like to bang him around, and he's shown he doesn't like it. IMO this negates any thought of using both Kreji and Seguin as two of the bruins three top centers. Kreji plays well with two large wings, but not so well with one large and one speedster [ Lucic/Peverley] Bookboy has posted a good evaluation on Kreji's 2011/2012 performance. Others suggested Seguin as #1 center, and Kreji on Bergeron's wing. The decision for Peter is play him or trade him. Not for a Parise winger, but for a bigger, stronger center, who is a scorer, since Kelly was not that peice. It appears that Chiarelli will focus any replacements in the 3rd and 4th line category, and Kreji will be with us , and with more determination and game consistency.
    Posted by bogie6[/QUOTE]


    uh. its "krejci"
     
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    I don't want to see David Krejci traded. If it meant freeing up cap room to get a Parise or Nash, then yes. Won't happen,so what I'd like to see is more consistency. Too talented of a player to not put up better numbers.
     
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    Who doesn't like David Krejci? But this roster has plenty of centers and a young star in the waiting who can fill the #1 center spot for the next 10+ years.

    Krejci Thomas Horton ... make a quinella for Nash and put him on Seguins wing

     
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    [QUOTE]Who doesn't like David Krejci? But this roster has plenty of centers and a young star in the waiting who can fill the #1 center spot for the next 10+ years. Krejci Thomas Horton ... make a quinella for Nash and put him on Seguins wing
    Posted by JWensink[/QUOTE]

    Interesting idea but I do not see CBJ wanting Krejci or Thomas for Nash. The Rangers almost nabbed him at the deadline for Dubinsky, Erixson,J.T. Miller, Christian Thomas and a 1st rounder. In short, the Jackets want young up and comers. Plus they already have a trio of Brassard, Johansen, and Vermette as their 3 centermen. I am not sure Krecji or an aging Thomas fits in their plans.
     
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    I have seen no evidence that DK minds physical play. I don't care if he gets up for every regular season game... I don't either. He scores .79ppg in the playoffs and has a 5.5 cap hit at age 25. You don't trade those players, ever. You make other moves if you want, but he is the type of player you don't trade for the next decade.
     
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    DK is as good as who he has with him. You want better performance of Kreji ? Then I suggest the Bruins put someone with him that can finish off those beautiful passes he makes. You would have a hard time finding someone with his skill sets to replace him with, that includes Nash.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Kreji possibilities : Interesting idea but I do not see CBJ wanting Krejci or Thomas for Nash. The Rangers almost nabbed him at the deadline for Dubinsky, Erixson,J.T. Miller, Christian Thomas and a 1st rounder. In short, the Jackets want young up and comers. Plus they already have a trio of Brassard, Johansen, and Vermette as their 3 centermen. I am not sure Krecji or an aging Thomas fits in their plans.
    Posted by jmwalters[/QUOTE]

    I agree - wishful thinking on my part
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Kreji possibilities : I agree - wishful thinking on my part
    Posted by JWensink[/QUOTE]

    Don't get me wrong, I would love if that happened.
    Smile
     
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    [QUOTE]I still have yet to see a rational argument for trading Krecji. If it is because he had a weak playoff round against the Caps then most of the team would have to go with him because few B's overachieved. Still waiting......
    Posted by jmwalters[/QUOTE]

    1.  Seguin should be the #1 center.

    2.  Krejci doesn't create enough offense to be a #1 center.

    3.  Krejci takes up too much cap room to be a #2 center.

    4.  Krejci is useless on special teams.

    5.  Krejci cannot be counted upon for a consistent performance.
     
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    Here's a list of "comparable" players to DK for the 2013 season. There are some players on the list you'd keep DK ahead of (but not many). He'll really need to step up his game next year if he's to truly earn his money.

    David Krejci: Top 20 Cap Hit Comparables

    Name Age Team Length Expiry Salary Cap Hit Delta
     
    Krejci, David » 26 BOS 3 2015 $5,250,000 $5,250,000 $0
    Carter, Jeff » 27 LAK 11 2022 $6,250,000 $5,272,727 $22,727
    Hossa, Marian » 33 CHI 12 2021 $7,900,000 $5,275,000 $25,000
    Pominville, Jason » 29 BUF 5 2014 $5,500,000 $5,300,000 $50,000
    Perry, Corey » 26 ANA 5 2013 $4,875,000 $5,325,000 $75,000
    Getzlaf, Ryan » 26 ANA 5 2013 $6,125,000 $5,325,000 $75,000
    Ryan, Bobby » 25 ANA 5 2015 $5,562,500 $5,100,000 $150,000
    Kessel, Phil » 25 TOR 5 2014 $5,100,000 $5,400,000 $150,000
    Grabovski, Mikhail » 28 TOR 5 2017 $6,000,000 $5,500,000 $250,000
    Hemsky, Ales » 28 EDM 2 2014 $5,000,000 $5,000,000 $250,000
    Neal, James » 24 PIT 6 2018 $5,000,000 $5,000,000 $250,000
    Tavares, John » 21 NYI 6 2018 $4,000,000 $5,500,000 $250,000
    Bergeron, Patrice » 26 BOS 3 2014 $4,550,000 $5,000,000 $250,000
    Plekanec, Tomas » 29 MTL 6 2016 $5,000,000 $5,000,000 $250,000
    Kesler, Ryan » 27 VAN 6 2016 $5,000,000 $5,000,000 $250,000
    Havlat, Martin » 31 SAN 6 2015 $5,000,000 $5,000,000 $250,000
    Gionta, Brian » 33 MTL 5 2014 $5,000,000 $5,000,000 $250,000
    Ribeiro, Mike » 32 DAL 5 2013 $5,000,000 $5,000,000 $250,000
    Horcoff, Shawn » 33 EDM 6 2015 $6,000,000 $5,500,000 $250,000
    St. Louis, Martin » 36 TBL 4 2015 $5,500,000 $5,625,000 $375,000
    Alfredsson, Daniel » 39 OTT 4 2013 $1,000,000 $4,875,000 $375,000
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Kreji possibilities : 1.  Seguin should be the #1 center. 2.  Krejci doesn't create enough offense to be a #1 center. 3.  Krejci takes up too much cap room to be a #2 center. 4.  Krejci is useless on special teams. 5.  Krejci cannot be counted upon for a consistent performance.
    Posted by Not-A-Shot[/QUOTE]

    Also worth mentioning that the B's already have the best #2 center in the NHL.
     
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    Nice list, good to put it in perspective. I agree he needs to step it up next year but it is kind of interesting that not to many on that list that had the same or less cap hit outperformed him. Maybe $5.25 million is exactly what he is worth in today's market?
     
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    I expect more from him, and thinking about it, you should have Seguin centering the first line and Bergeron centering the second line, wouldnt it make sense to deal Krejci for a winger who can play with one of those two and score some goals? This team needs offense, and like I said before, I like Krejci, but he's nearing the point of his career where he may have to be put in the overpaid/overrated category.
     
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    [QUOTE]I expect more from him, and thinking about it, you should have Seguin centering the first line and Bergeron centering the second line, wouldnt it make sense to deal Krejci for a winger who can play with one of those two and score some goals? This team needs offense, and like I said before, I like Krejci, but he's nearing the point of his career where he may have to be put in the overpaid/overrated category.
    Posted by kelvana33[/QUOTE]

    Say you are right Kel but is it not better to have three centers capable of offense and defense a much better proposition then just two with another center who is only really consistent on the defensive side of the game? judging by that list his cap hit is comparable to others.

    Now, if you are comfortable with Peverley taking over third line center duties exclusively then I can get behind that. Of course it all depends on what comes back in a possible Krejci trade but as it stands, I like to be very deep at center.
     
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    I would just move him to wing if need be. He scored 23 points in 25 playoff games last year, 47 in 59 for his career. I wouldn't call him over-rated. If he were to up his regular season points slightly to a ppg, he would command 6 mil plus. He would now if he had more name value.

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    [QUOTE]I expect more from him, and thinking about it, you should have Seguin centering the first line and Bergeron centering the second line, wouldnt it make sense to deal Krejci for a winger who can play with one of those two and score some goals? This team needs offense, and like I said before, I like Krejci, but he's nearing the point of his career where he may have to be put in the overpaid/overrated category.
    Posted by kelvana33[/QUOTE]
     
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    Krejci on the PP isn't a problem NAS. it's the powerplay itself. Krejci doesn't make too much money to be a second line center. Dedicating 16 million to centers isn't a problem in the slightest. 
     
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    Neely el presidentee said himself the first issue to deal with is the PP. Letting go Krejci to get an elite sniper will be OK but who is out there, is Gaborik tradeable in the off season and he does have the speed to go RW with Seguin, the Parise rumours or will they go with a bargain one year contract instead Semin or Whitney.

    Horton if ready will solve the problem for a second line RW.
    The 1st line Looch Seguin (Whitney Semin Gaborik Parise Ryan Nash).
     
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    [QUOTE]Here's a list of "comparable" players to DK for the 2013 season. There are some players on the list you'd keep DK ahead of (but not many). He'll really need to step up his game next year if he's to truly earn his money. David Krejci: Top 20 Cap Hit Comparables Name Age Team Length Expiry Salary Cap Hit Delta   Krejci, David » 26 BOS 3 2015 $5,250,000 $5,250,000 $0 Carter, Jeff » 27 LAK 11 2022 $6,250,000 $5,272,727 $22,727 Hossa, Marian » 33 CHI 12 2021 $7,900,000 $5,275,000 $25,000 Pominville, Jason » 29 BUF 5 2014 $5,500,000 $5,300,000 $50,000 Perry, Corey » 26 ANA 5 2013 $4,875,000 $5,325,000 $75,000 Getzlaf, Ryan » 26 ANA 5 2013 $6,125,000 $5,325,000 $75,000 Ryan, Bobby » 25 ANA 5 2015 $5,562,500 $5,100,000 $150,000 Kessel, Phil » 25 TOR 5 2014 $5,100,000 $5,400,000 $150,000 Grabovski, Mikhail » 28 TOR 5 2017 $6,000,000 $5,500,000 $250,000 Hemsky, Ales » 28 EDM 2 2014 $5,000,000 $5,000,000 $250,000 Neal, James » 24 PIT 6 2018 $5,000,000 $5,000,000 $250,000 Tavares, John » 21 NYI 6 2018 $4,000,000 $5,500,000 $250,000 Bergeron, Patrice » 26 BOS 3 2014 $4,550,000 $5,000,000 $250,000 Plekanec, Tomas » 29 MTL 6 2016 $5,000,000 $5,000,000 $250,000 Kesler, Ryan » 27 VAN 6 2016 $5,000,000 $5,000,000 $250,000 Havlat, Martin » 31 SAN 6 2015 $5,000,000 $5,000,000 $250,000 Gionta, Brian » 33 MTL 5 2014 $5,000,000 $5,000,000 $250,000 Ribeiro, Mike » 32 DAL 5 2013 $5,000,000 $5,000,000 $250,000 Horcoff, Shawn » 33 EDM 6 2015 $6,000,000 $5,500,000 $250,000 St. Louis, Martin » 36 TBL 4 2015 $5,500,000 $5,625,000 $375,000 Alfredsson, Daniel » 39 OTT 4 2013 $1,000,000 $4,875,000 $375,000
    Posted by dezaruchi[/QUOTE]

    I don't know Dez, I see atleast 8 (including Bergy), maybe 9 guys I would rather than DK
     
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    Like?
     
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    Seguin should be the #1 center? How do you figure that? I love Seguin as a player, but he has little NHL experience as a center. He has spent most of his 1st two seasons as a winger. You don't just thrown him into the #1 center spot. He has to get more time at center before he gets to be the #1 center. I think a lot Krejci's struggles were due to the same thing a lot of the Bruins struggles were due to, Nathan Horton's concussion. It didn't help that Lucic was terrible. It is hard for a #1 center to put up numbers when his linemates aren't producing
     
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    [QUOTE]Seguin should be the #1 center? How do you figure that? I love Seguin as a player, but he has little NHL experience as a center. He has spent most of his 1st two seasons as a winger. You don't just thrown him into the #1 center spot. He has to get more time at center before he gets to be the #1 center. I think a lot Krejci's struggles were due to the same thing a lot of the Bruins struggles were due to, Nathan Horton's concussion. It didn't help that Lucic was terrible. It is hard for a #1 center to put up numbers when his linemates aren't producing
    Posted by lordy4[/QUOTE]

    I'd put him right into the # 1 center spot without blinking an eye.
     

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