Re: Not our problem anymore...
posted at 7/10/2013 12:28 PM EDT
In response to hangnail's comment:
In response to stevegm's comment:
In response to BadHabitude's comment:
I have to get it off my chest. I liked the kid. I liked him a lot. I liked him for the on ice skills, but from what I saw of the off ice workouts and camp biosteel and from his first vehicle being a used Range Rover I was led to believe that he was mature beyond his years. I guess I am naive, but I thought the missed team meeting and that benching was a "one of".
I could see the problems in his game as well as anyone and I see what jwensink means.
But I thought he could mature. I was wild when I was a kid, really wild. A lot of people didn't think I would live to see 21 years of age. I had dropped out of school and basically every cent I made went for booze and drugs. After a few years of that and some close calls I snapped out of it at 21 and turned my life around. Haven't touched any street drugs since then, (still drink tho), went back to school and got it together. And at the time I started running every day and eventually took up bike racing and took much better care of myself.
I thought I would see the same in Tyler. I thought his game would improve and get grittier with time.
I am really disappointed in Tyler more than anything. I wish the kid the best, but again I'd be so disappointed to see him succeed when he could have done it for the Bruins. I expected to see more bio steel workouts and articles this summer about how Tyler was rededicating himself. Instead, I see tweets about a 4th of July party.
I guess this is hard on me because I know I was wild and turned it around, and if I were playing for the same stakes that Seguin is... I just can't see how he can't get it together for millions a year when I did it for a normal life and white collar job.
Always nice to read a post that's explanetory. We see this a bit differently, and that's ok. Personally, I don't think the partying was what got him shipped out of town. If it was, then I think the Bruins made a mistake. Maturity, or some form of it will undoubtedly come along.
I think all of this party hoopla is a bit of a smoke screen, and wouldn't even have come out, if PC figured he had a deal, when those remarks were made. Doesn't make sense for PC to make those public statements, unless he thinks the trade posibilities are gone, and he's stuck with trying to straighten those things out.
I think the "only reason" Seguin was traded, is because management changed their mind about his potential. I know mine sure did. I certainly think he can become a really good player, I just don't think he can become a superstar. I said before, to date, he's been Samsonov lite. Samsonov was a really good player who just hit a wall, when he really should have taken off. They both have those pond hockey skills, but not necessarily that other dimension to get them over the top. I can't ever see Seguin being a quality center. If he can more North-South he could be a pretty good winger for a while but the East-West stuff has to go.
If Seguin does morph into a superstar with 15 more years on his resume, it won't look good on PC, but I feel he's made a really gutsy, prudent decision. Time will tell.
I'm not so sure about this statement steve. Wouldn't it make more sense that PC looked over his roster and with Horton gone, didn't feel comfortable slotting Seguin as his 1st line RW? Not that TS doesn't have the talent to be a 1st line RW, but the fit with DK and Lucic simply wasn't a good one.
Then the natural progression is to think forward about dumping salary (Pevs) and freeing up cap space in order to add the missing piece at 1RW, while also adding a more than serviceable 2RW. So bottom line, it was probably less about Seguin's lack of "potential" and more about rounding out the top 6 which was left in shambles by Horton's departure. If Horton is still here, Seguin more than likely is as well.
I don't think so at all hang. In fact i'm almost sure. DK and Lucic used to be a decent fit. There's nothing to suggest that possibility should be gone forever. You simply don't trade a "21 year old potential franchise player", unless you stop feeling that way. It would be more prudent to trade both Lucic and Krejci if the GM still felt he was a franchise player. And the top 6 was not in shambles with Hortons departure. It wouldn't have even been news had Nathan not caught the B's by surprise with his decision. A horton type player isn't that hard to replace. A franchise player is next to impossible to land without grossly overpaying. Finally, Hortons departure, it appears was more of a snag in moving Seguin. If Horton stayed, tyler would have been gone quicker.