Re: Rutherford on Kaberle
posted at 12/3/2011 1:45 PM EST
In Response to Re: Rutherford on Kaberle
[QUOTE]'those nice pieces' IS Joe Colborne. Period. Neither he nor Kaberle are with the Bruins any longer, but it is Colborne who will haunt - ask Peter Chiarelli - he "hated to let him go." Who knows if the Bruins would've won the Cup without Kaberle - they won three Game 7's, 2 in OT - a lot had to go right. His 11 assists aside, I don't feel that Kaberle was an essential piece.
By the end, Julien had zero confidence in Kaberle, but was too deep in it to do much else. Julien hid him best he could, giving him 6th defenceman minutes. Say what you want, but this is not the player they gave up Joe Colborne for. Who knows, maybe Shane Hnidy would've done just as well. Does The Bruins winning the Cup validate and rationalize all decisions retroactively?
If that's the case, why stop at Kaberle for Colborne? I mean wouldn't the June 2009 attempted-but-failed-trade of Kessel for Kaberle count too? Chiarelli wanted Kaberle and the Leafs #7 Pick in the 2009 Draft (that was a week away at the time) Chiarelli was offering Kessel and the Bruins' 2010 1st Round pick (it would end up being at #15) We know what happened; Burke didn't accept,
The Bruins flipped their 2010 Pick and Wideman to FLA for Horton and Campbell and the Leafs took Nazim Kadri at #7 If that trade happens, the Bruins now don't have Kessel, Kaberle, Seguin, Horton nor Campbell and they most probably don't have a Cup. Hey, but they have Nazim Kadri. (or, you'd like to think, they'd of taken Zach Kassian). Where did the Bruins 'March to the Cup' begin? How far back does it go? Do the non-trades, the stuff Chiarelli tried but failed to do - and not from lack of trying - also count? My point, Chiarelli wanted Kaberle as much as Rutherford did (took two runs at him) - and in both cases, the player they got and paid too dearly for, seemed to surprise only them with his ineffectiveness. i doubt it surprises Brian Burke or anyone else who saw him play in Toronto - his value was inflated. One just hopes, a coupla years from now, we won't be hearing that the Leafs' 'March to the Cup' started with the acquisition of Joe Colborne?
Posted by gord11[/QUOTE]
What do you expect PC to say? Of course he'd be gracious.
Who knows if the Bruins would've won with Hnidy replacing Kaberle's 11 points? So correct me if I'm wrong but it seems your side in this debate is nothing more than theory and conjecture.
Does winning the Cup validate theories? Yes. I'm shocked you would ask.
This "failed trade" you bring up is also just conjecture and regardless, if that trade did take place, who knows what number that pick might've ended up being? I mean really, more hypotheticals? Boston won the Cup.
Regarding the Leafs run to the Cup and Colborne.......yeah, I'll take my chances.