Re: Something smells funny Re : Marchand
posted at 7/20/2011 8:48 AM EDT
In Response to Re: Something smells funny Re : Marchand
[QUOTE]Kind of a false distinction, steve. The Bruins decided Kessel wasn't worth $5+ based on all the factors you name. You don't pay a one dimensional goal-scorer who goes on holidays for long stretches that kind of cake. You take a huge risk giving that coin to a guy who isn't in shape and doesn't take care of himself because that's a recipe for him ending up on the sideline or losing the wheels that make him however special he might be. So both sides are true: Kessel is gone because he was a lazy, disgruntled little sob who seemed fundamentally uncoachable but who was offered crazy money elsewhere. No one would take Wheeler back for a pair of Marchand's socks (Stanley excepted), but that's not the way it usually works based on the arbitration model. They'll look for guys with similar point totals and similar service time. Here are some guys at very close to the same age, most with a bit more NHL service than Mushmouth. (Player - comparable stats - cap hit) Okposo - (pro-rates to about 42 points over 82 games) - $2.8M Berglund - 52p, 22g - $2.25M McBain - 30p on D - $850K (Still EL) Anisimov - 44p - $1.875M Frolik - 38p - $2.333 Now, odds are you wouldn't trade Mushmouth straight up for any of these guys, but how big a factor do you make that out to be? Do you pay a million more because you like his attitude and because he had a great playoffs? Not likely. Average here, if you take out McBain, is a very Wheeler-like $2.32M. I could see them pushing the number up to $2.5M for two years or even as high as $3M on a 3 or 4 year deal. But I think the number will be close to what the arbitrator gave Wheeler last year adjusted for UFA Stupidity inflation.
Posted by Bookboy007[/QUOTE]
Not sure what you mean in that first paragraph Book. I don't see any kind of false distinction. I suggested PC would have signed him, if available at 3.8. Wouldn't you agree that number is in the ball park?
If so, money was the sole issue, not all those other tangibles we both brought up. At 3.8, all of a sudden, those negatives...aren't so negative.
If PC doesn't want him at any price...whole different story. My point isn't to debate the trade(we've had enough of that), just a fair example of how the biz works totally different than pre-cap, and how these monetary principals come down to every player in the league now. One may feel Crosby is the finest overall player in the league right now. There comes a point though, when every GM and every knowledgable fan, does not want him on their team. That point is when salary exceeds perceived contribution. It's not talent, it's not drive, and it's not likeability. It's money.
It used to be, "do we want this player"...if yes, it then came down to the teams resolve in "ponying up". Now, players are scratched on and off team wish lists, SOLELY.... on their salary, or particular ramifications to current payroll.
The drafting process, is still is all about projecting talent....the most talent possible. Building a great NHL team though....isn't. Perhaps a teeny bit oversimplified, but today, it's all about squeezing the most cohesive talent, out of a specific amount of money.