Re: The Lucic Issue
posted at 10/19/2011 5:31 PM EDT
In Response to Re: The Lucic Issue
[QUOTE]Sorry for the double post, but wanted to address the two separately.... Everybody wants to see Lucic be more physical and yes I think he can do better in that respect, but the rest that original post slamming him just doesn't add up. He put up 62 points last year, and 30 goals as a 23 year old and you are complaining? Show me some other players out there making under $4M that are doing more on a consistent basis. If anything his passing game is under-rates because he at times makes looks that the average player would not. And when his shot gets going he's going to net some goals. He's one of the few guys on the team that can flat out beat the goalie with his shot (along with Seguin and Horton). He may not score 30+ every year, but I think he is a lock for over 25 and at least that many assists, along with more of a physical presence than you give him credit for. I think he is a little careless at times and makes some bad turnovers but other than that I don't see that he is a offensively deficient player by any means. To even suggest trading him is lunacy. He basically put up the same numbers as Kessel (all star) did last year without being a total pu$$ --- for less money. What exactly are you complaining about?
Posted by Chappy28[/QUOTE]
What am I complaining about? You fail to address his complete no show for the playoffs. You fail to address that he's lacked any where near the level of intensity and desire to play physical since his 2nd full year in a Bruins uniform.
Comparing him to Phil Kessel is a joke. Kessel was a top round pick with huge offensive upside that's underperforming. We got a couple of players for him if I remember. You want to compare Lucic to Kessel okay, find me the GM that would give you 2 first rounders and a 2nd for Lucic. Please, the Bruins would get laughed at if they asked for that type of return on Lucic.
The Bruins didn't give Lucic $4M+to score 25 goals. They gave it to him to score some goals but most importantly to be the dominant physical player he's shown he's capable of being that strikes fear into all the opponents he faces. If you think with his hands, his speed and now lack of physical intensity and what looks like lack of desire that he's a lock in for 25-35 goals a year you're nuts.
I'd much rather take the Bruins $4M they are paying Lucic and go get a legit skating defensiveman. I certainly woulnd't resign him for that same figure and I doubt the Bruins would either. Who''d you rather have Marchand or Lucic? I think that answer is easy on a number of fronts. The only area Lucic might have over Marchand is physical play but there's a big no on that one as Marchand has been much involved physically and in the intimidation/aggitator department than Lucic has. Do we win the cup last year without Lucic, I say probably. Do we win it without Marchand, no way.
As for underrating his physical play please tell me the last time you saw him hit anyone? Last night's game was the first game he's had more than one hit this year and let's not get into his complete physical no show the entire playoffs last year.
A poorly skating physical player that doesn't create offense for his teamates that scores 40-55 points aint worth $4M a year and he certainly shouldn't be on the number one line and PP units they way he's currently playing.
Get back to me at the end of the year when Lucic scores his 30 goals again (not happening) and when he is a physical intimadting force again in the regular season and the playoffs (again nothing suggest that part of his game is ever coming back either).
Note, Lucic doesn't suck. That's not my point. My point is to get him off the number one line and number one PP unit and try to work him out of his funk and lack of intensity. If you can't do it than keeping him on the roster this year and next at $4M a whack to play the zero intensity game he's playing (and has been for years now) and to score 40-55 points is just too much.
If he's so coveted and awesome than I guess we won't have any problems getting value for him if we seek to trade him. The Bruins have plenty of talent in the minors and in juniors at the wing position not to mention some cap space. They would be better off getting assets for Lucic, getting rid of his bloated salary while they can, using the $4M to fix other problems and giving their younger players a shot at developing.