Re: timmy thomas greatest goalie in bruins history
posted at 1/20/2011 10:46 AM EST
In Response to Re: timmy thomas greatest goalie in bruins history
[QUOTE]Lets not even get into the Bs system which is very goalie friendly. Byron Dafoe had some success under a goalie friendly system with Pat Burns as well.
Posted by Newfiebullet[/QUOTE]
That's like saying Hasek had success in Buffalo once he left Chicago because of the system.
It works both ways.
Dafoe also did well, post Burns. 2001-2002 and 2003-2004 to be more specific.
At the end of the day, goalies here will be judged by the Cup, not strong regular seasons and consistency.
I think we can all agree on that statement. This is why Thomas is no better than Andy Moog, other than winning a Vezina. Same with Dafoe, in recent years.
Heck, Dafoe came in 2nd place in Vezina voting in '98/'99 to a HOFer in Hasek. He also was the backbone of the resurgence in 1997/'98 when he beat out Jim Carey in that early season road trip on the West Coast.
In the end, he'll be the scapegoat for those teams, but he was very good.
Dafoe was a victim of horrendous personnel management and an outdated defensive philosophy via Mike O'Connell. He was behind the slow footed, mediocre D Men who acted as turnstiles. How many 2 and 3 save plays did we see where the D Men either didn't clear anyone out or didn't clear the puck?
I can't think of really any transitional/skating defensemen that played in front of Dafoe, post Bourque. What. Sergei Gonchar for 2 months in late 2004? How many clearing passes or outlet passes failed in front of Dafoe under the Ftorek and Mike Sullivan?
Too many to count. That was the reason for the collapses to Montreal in those series.
Peter Popovich, Sean O'Donnell, Hal Gill, Kyle McLaren, etc. Not really the bulk of a D Men group you'd want skating in front of you in this era's NHL.
I mean, look at the 2001/2002 roster. How on earth did they even get such a high seed?http://espn.starwave.com/nhl/rosters/bos.html
In terms of technique/style, I think Thomas is an anamoly while Dafoe is a little more traditional in the techincal sense. He was quick and could get to post to post very well. Thomas is good at this, too, but Thomas is also bigger/plays bigger.