Re: Today (March 30th 2012) Tyler or Taylor
posted at 3/31/2012 7:41 AM EDT
In Response to Re: Today (March 30th 2012) Tyler or Taylor
[QUOTE]i think we exaggerate how bad the kessel trade actually was. You cant view from hindsight, you must view the trade from when it occured. The leaves did not anticipate being as bad as they were , and therefore did not believe that the pick in question would be the second overall. Nor did they know that Hamilton would be as good as he was. No one did, because if they did, he would have went in the top 5. Kessel was a 30 goal scorer. Look, the trade worked out wonderfully for the B's, but honestly, there are worse trades every year. Its not like they got nothing out of the deal. They got a young proven 30 goal scorer.
Posted by Drewski5[/QUOTE]
absolutely right. the deal absolutely screwed the B's in 10. That was supposed to be the year of the Bruins. Despite peoples selective memory, Kessel's contribution was significant, and wasn't replaced in 10, and it ruined things. Last year, Kessel would have been a bigger contributor than Seguin, but the absence of Kessels cap hit helped the B's, so it gets muddy when trying to make comparisons. Like most talented 21 year olds, they get better each year til they peak, and Kessel is much better now than he was with the B's. He's still soft defensively(probably always will be), but that goes with the territory of being a high end offensive threat. Turns out, Kessels pay is reasonable considering the comparables. I don't think it's pie in the sky to ssume he would currently be an offensive dynamo in Boston this year, easily matching Seguins offensive output, it's a given that his defense would have improved somewhat, but doubtful he could have matched Seguins this year. There's still some money available from 81's cap hit, but that doesn't come into play this year, cuz the B's have all kinds of cap space anyway. You can pick who you want for 11/12 to date, but to most impartial hockey people, there wouldn't be a huge disparity.
Up til now, I certainly wouldn't call it that lop-sided. It's not like about 28 other teams wouldn't kill for Kessel.
The kicker is moving forward. I agree with the assessment that Kessel is close to his peak, and I also agree Seguin is no where near his. From the trade til now...I feel Kessel would have been a greater contributor to the B's overall success, (his weaknesses are easily absorbed into the lineup, and his assets are magnified by the lineup))but looking ahead, it's not even close. We've seen enough of Seguin to know that barring injury,(which applies to everyone) this guy is gonna be one of the very, very best players in the league...in a really short time.
Appears Hamilton is gonna be a dandy, but it appeared Kyle McLaren was gonna be too. Same with Jircina. Everything looks great, but propects who play defense, seem to be difficult to project. Still...pretty hard to not be excited about the prospect of Hamilton, as it looks like he has all the tools to not only compete at the NHL level, but be a premier player.
To me...the bounty in the Kessel deal is all about from here on out, not from then to now, and it certainly appears pretty lop sided in the Bruins favour. Should be crystal clear in a couple years.