Re: What's Worse?
posted at 11/3/2013 1:16 AM EST
In response to gord11's comment:
Dezaruchi, Brian Burke is a p*mp. A snake-oil salesman, a quack, a dinosaur. Seriously, 4 underlined paragraphs?!
"...They don’t write about the times a heavyweight skates by his opponent’s bench to say, “Settle down, or I’ll settle you down,” and it works. They don’t notice a tough guy warning an opponent at a faceoff. They’ve never heard a star player march into their office, slam the door and demand the team get tougher because he’s getting killed out there by opponents playing without fear. They’ve never seen a chippy game on the edge settle down after a good fight."
When I read this s**t, ths self-puffery from one of the worst, I know that fighting must be on it's way out.
Thats bc you never played the sport. what burke wrote is exactly what 98% of the players think. Gretzky who is one of the most well spoken and pro hockey guys around had dave semenko. He took mcsorely with him to LA. Stevie Y had Probert and Gallant. have you always had this view? You sound exactly like the media types burke, cherry et al refer to. 98% Gord. they will take body contact out before they take fighting out. Go research what the true greats say about fighting. I think a large majority in here are against the staged skating clown fights. But a true hockey tilt when two men get mad and wanna settle it is fine by me.
Mario Lemieux likely has a longer career if he had Probert. He used to get owned by Darius. If they would simply remove the instigator penalty things would balance out some. The fear of having to answer the bell keeps many players honest. Ive heard old nhl types talk about Cooke. they say he never would have lasted bc the players police themselves. It would have been dealt with.
Do you not think Domis sucker punch on Ulf was perfect justice, or Cam rag dolling him. I sure do. How about Kanes one punch on Cooke.
What Burke wrote is about as acurate an article as you will find. And i cant stand the man.
glen murray in his first tour of duty told me about a time when they played the rangers. Murray was just in his early years. Well he hit messier. Messier didnt like it. kocur and beukeboom were leaning over the boards saying they were gonna kill him. Glen said it was the scariest moment of his career. Beukeboom later in his career hit glen with a hit that then tough guy matt johnson didnt like. johnson essentially ended his career.
I love listening to stories about how the tough guys of that era took care of things. I dont remember gretzky ever getting pushed around. Only one time, guess when that was. International hockey when Suter ran him.