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    You Decide

    You play coach for a minute...

    Who would you play Thorton, Caron or Florek......Why?

    Eriksson second or third line.....Why?

    Who would you send down Fraser, Florek, Spooner, Caron.....Why?

    How would you handle the healthy scratch on Defense Hamilton, Miller, Bartowski, Krug...Why?

    I don't know how you can decide with so much talent right now...Good problem to have,

    Oh and who would move down to third Smith or Marchand if you even though about Eriksson moving up...Why?

     

     

     
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    More coaching choices?

    Is any of this even real...I know you all know better then the reporters...

     

    Dan Girardi – the 6-foot-3, 203-pound impending unrestricted free agent is the best fit for the Bruins in terms of his simple, defensive game and the size/strength department. He hits the criteria of being a unrestricted free agent, an ice time workhorse capable of 25-plus minutes and a proven commodity in high-pressure playoff circumstances, and is more than willing to block shots and throw his body around with a Seidenberg-like physicality. Only Ryan Suter, Jay Bouwmeester, Shea Weber and Duncan Keith have logged more minutes since the start of the 2010-11 season. The price is the thing with Girardi: The New York Posts' Larry Brooks indicated in a report it would take an "A" prospect, a team’s best defensemen prospect and a high draft pick to pry Girardi out of New York. Probability: He won’t be traded to the Bruins unless the price comes down on him.

    Michael Del Zotto – the 23-year-old is a few years removed from the player that had 41 points and a plus-20 for the Rangers, and appeared poised to become one of the best young, puck-moving defensemen in the league. Now he’s serving as a healthy scratch for Alain Vigneault, and is regularly mentioned on the trade market. He has nine points in 34 games along a minus-6 rating. He also looked fairly disinterested last spring in the playoff series against the Bruins, and that’s a major warning sign to a team looking for somebody with Seidenberg’s competitive spirit. He’s not even close to what the Bruins are looking for in a D-man, and wouldn’t be on their radar no matter the price. Probability: not going to happen after watching some of his defensive issues in last year’s playoffs.

    Mark Stuart – The 29-year-old former Bruins defenseman would seem to make sense on a lot of levels: he’s a great fit in the dressing room, he’s a rugged defender that NESN’s Jack Edwards used to marvel at for his caveman strength. He wouldn’t cost the Bruins a ton dealing with a Winnipeg team going nowhere. But Stuart isn’t really what the Bruins are looking for: he still only plays only 16:54 of ice time per night, and has never topped 17:12 of ice time in any season. He’s not a 20-plus minute horse, and he’s really nothing more than a bottom defensemen pairing for a Stanley Cup-caliber team like the Bruins. Stuart wouldn’t displace any B’s defensemen currently among the top-six on the roster, and that’s not an upgrade. Might be a nice depth deal for the Bruins, but that’s not what they’re looking for right now. Probability: it could happen if the Bruins want another veteran defenseman for a playoff run, but he’s not among their top options.

    Christian Ehrhoff – This one is intriguing: what better when your German defenseman goes down than to go get yourself the next best German defenseman on the market? Ehrhoff is a minutes workhorse, has plenty of playoff experience and would become the first member of the hated 2010-11 Vancouver Canucks team to cross over to the Bruins side of the street. His numbers have fallen off the cliff since moving from Vancouver to Buffalo, but this is a guy that averaged 14 goals and 47 points a season for the Canucks over a two-year span. The problem: he’s signed for $4 million a season from now through the year 2021. That’s a tough nut to crack for a Bruins team looking for a rental. It would significantly drive down the price the Bruins would be willing to pay in trade. Think a couple of “B’ level prospects, a draft pick and something from the NHL roster to clear cap space. Probability: with his long contract, the Bruins wouldn’t be interested unless they get really, really desperate for D help this year. They’re not there yet.

    Andrej Meszaros – The veteran defenseman has been in and out of the Flyers doghouse this season, and injuries/ineffectiveness have really taken a chunk out of his game the past few years. He was a top-four guy for Ottawa, Tampa Bay and his first few years in Philadelphia, and had 10 goals, 39 points and a plus-34 in his rookie NHL season. On the down side, that was back in 2005-06. On the plus side, it was with the Ottawa Senators, while Peter Chiarelli was still a member of their organization. He’s a “buy low” commodity given how his stick has fallen in Philly, but as recently as two years ago he would have seemed like a suitable replacement if Seidenberg went down. He’s still just 28 years old, so he might be somebody the Bruins can make work for the next few months as he tries to build up his value headed into free agency. Probability: this actually seems feasible if the price was a prospect and draft pick that weren’t top drawer from the Bruins.

    Chris Phillips – Another member of the Ottawa Senators connection, the 35-year-old has ideal size (6-foot-3, 221-pounds), experience as a 15-year NHL veteran and he already knows several guys in the dressing room including Zdeno Chara and Chris Kelly. He’s having a pretty good season with 13 points and a minus-1 rating while averaging 20:25 of ice time per game, and is exactly the kind of smart, savvy veteran Boston could use to stabilize things in their own end. He’s played for the Sens his entire career and still has value to an Ottawa team that’s not out of the playoff race quite yet, so it remains to be seen if he’d be available. This might be the most realistic option for the Bruins given his cost, productivity and the playoff coming back to them. Probability: If I were a betting man I’d say this is one of the top guys the Bruins are targeting prior to March 5, and that it would end up costing the Bruins a couple of 2nd-3rd round picks.

    Other names to consider: Kimmo Timonen, Ron Hainsey, Nick Schultz, Henrik Tallinder and Rostislav Klesla.

     
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    Well havent seen enuf of florek and debating is tough for the 4th line but right now thornton at least knows the line mates.
    Erikkson might be a better fit on the left wing with bergeron and smith but then the 3rd line is over loaded with LWingers adding marchand there. Im sure CJ will go back to what was, maybe the 3rd with spooner centering smith and soderberg might be a good fast line.

    Caron can stay the extra forward, im all but done with any hopes for him and sending fraser back down. Im sure we will see Miller as the 7th D, but i think krug and bartowski should get a rest in the upper seats just to keep them from burning out.

     
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    I think Thornton finds his way back into the line up, Spooner has until Kelly is ready to prove himself.

     
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    In response to Macfact's comment:
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    You play coach for a minute...

    Who would you play Thorton, Caron or Florek......Why?

    Eriksson second or third line.....Why?

    Who would you send down Fraser, Florek, Spooner, Caron.....Why?

    How would you handle the healthy scratch on Defense Hamilton, Miller, Bartowski, Krug...Why?

    I don't know how you can decide with so much talent right now...Good problem to have,

    Oh and who would move down to third Smith or Marchand if you even though about Eriksson moving up...Why?

     

     

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    Anyone but Caron.

     
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    Loui on the right with Marchand and Bergeron. Smith rejoins the 3rd line. Thorton in, Caron traded, waived or escorted from the building. 

     
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    Lucic Krejci Iginla

    Marchand Bergeron Smith

    Erickson Spooner Soderberg

    Paille Kelly Campbell/Thorton

     

    Chara

    Boychuck

    Girardi/or some other vet via trade

    McQuaid

    Bartowski

    Krug 

     

     The big question is what young D man is getting traded............somebody's leaving.........Probably Bartowski or Hamilton 

     
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    Eriksson on RW with Spooner-Soderberg  Caron traded 3rd rounder  Paille-Campbell-Kelly-Thornton on 4th line mix with Spooner sat once in awhile  Tallinder in for Bartkowski  Chara-Boychuk-Mcquaid-Hamilton-Krug  Miller 7th D   not easy decisions at all   now! if you can throw Girardis name in the mix without losing the core    wow!

     
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    Hamilton, never. Plus the way people keep getting hurt you need most of these guys

     
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    Thornton and Jordy play, Florek get's sent down.  Because, Thornton is needed on that 4th line and can score.  And Jordy is better than Florek.

     

    Eriksson back on the 2nd line to develop playoff chemistry.  Smith to play with Spooner.

     

    Bartkowski was in the snub-gate deal last year so, I would imagine he may be in play again this year for a shutdown D.

     
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    In response to Macfact's comment:
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    You play coach for a minute...

    Who would you play Thorton, Caron or Florek......Why?

    Eriksson second or third line.....Why?

    Who would you send down Fraser, Florek, Spooner, Caron.....Why?

    How would you handle the healthy scratch on Defense Hamilton, Miller, Bartowski, Krug...Why?

    I don't know how you can decide with so much talent right now...Good problem to have,

    Oh and who would move down to third Smith or Marchand if you even though about Eriksson moving up...Why?

     

     

     Thornton over Caron and Florek at this point I think he's a better player than both plus is Florek an emergency call up?

    To me Eriksson starts on third line until up to speed if Smith stays hot he stays where he is plus Eriksson can bring some defensive safeguards for Spooner and Soderberg two young players

    Miller is the healthy scratch not even close in my opinion

    Fraser and Florek going down guarenteed, Caron a spare

    Marchand stays where he is, semi-proven commodity plus Smith and Eriksson are more accomplished on their off wing

     

     
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    In response to bim09's comment:

    Thornton and Jordy play, Florek get's sent down.  Because, Thornton is needed on that 4th line and can score.  And Jordy is better than Florek.

     

    Eriksson back on the 2nd line to develop playoff chemistry.  Smith to play with Spooner.

     

    Bartkowski was in the snub-gate deal last year so, I would imagine he may be in play again this year for a shutdown D.



    Are you sure? Are you using a micrometer?

     
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    Florek already is better than Caron, who is a waste of space. How this guy continues to get second and third chances in the NHL is beyond me. He can't score, and he really can't do much of anything. Florek made a great pass or two in the Ducks game alone. Just like when I saw Warsofsky on D, and thought, he has got some promise. When I see Caron, I go....why?

     
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    In response to dannycater's comment:[QUOTE]

    Florek already is better than Caron. [/QUOTE]


    By a couple of football fields but Florek will get sent down. All Spooner needs now is a winger who can put the puck in the net. As long as Julien is the coach Thornton or a player like will be on that 4th line.

    Bartkowski and Caron will probably be gone even before the Olympic break.

     
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    In response to riptide757's comment:
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    Lucic Krejci Iginla

    Marchand Bergeron Smith

    Erickson Spooner Soderberg

    Paille Kelly Campbell/Thorton

     

    Chara

    Boychuck

    Girardi/or some other vet via trade

    McQuaid

    Bartowski

    Krug 

     

     The big question is what young D man is getting traded............somebody's leaving.........Probably Bartowski or Hamilton 

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    This is what I got, too. Maybe would prefer Stuart as the added D, but otherwise looks solid. Hamilton isn't going anywhere though.

     
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    Bruins didn't trade for  Eriksson to be a third line winger....

     
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    The B's have basically been able to withstand injuries to the forwards with their young depth and people picking up their games, and even the bottom D have been deep enough when people were hurt.

    But it seems the team looks affected by the Seidenberg injury.

    Maybe its a small sample, maybe its because the teams they are playing are that good, or maybe its because Rask is in a little funk, but its hard to ignore the leaky look of the team D since Seides went down.

    Rather than look for multi cheap depth deals as in prior years, I see the B's making one deal, spending some real resources for a physical stay at home defenseman.

    I also see Thornton having a hard time getting regular playing time when eligible.

     

     

     

     
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    The B's have basically been able to withstand injuries to the forwards with their young depth and people picking up their games, and even the bottom D have been deep enough when people were hurt.

    But it seems the team looks affected by the Seidenberg injury.

    Maybe its a small sample, maybe its because the teams they are playing are that good, or maybe its because Rask is in a little funk, but its hard to ignore the leaky look of the team D since Seides went down.

    Rather than look for multi cheap depth deals as in prior years, I see the B's making one deal, spending some real resources for a physical stay at home defenseman.

    I also see Thornton having a hard time getting regular playing time when eligible.

     

     

     

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    Don't worry. NAS, D.B.C (Designated Board Clown) will be here finding ways to demean your points to prove that his very existence matters only to himself.

    But, yes, I agree with the consensus that a big, solid D man with the stamina for 22 mins a game is needed.  Top priority.

    Secondly, I'll give Rask 2 games off starting in SJ.  Rather now than later.  With Johnson in net, it will fire up the D to play much more heads up

     
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    Bring back Andrew Ference. He knows the drill.

     
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    In response to SanDogBrewin's comment:
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    In response to dannycater's comment:[QUOTE]

    Florek already is better than Caron. [/QUOTE]


    By a couple of football fields but Florek will get sent down. All Spooner needs now is a winger who can put the puck in the net. As long as Julien is the coach Thornton or a player like will be on that 4th line.

    Bartkowski and Caron will probably be gone even before the Olympic break.

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    A lot of posts, by a lot of people suggest some variation of the above.  I think Juliens power is ridiculously overrated.  All coaches.   The coach is at about the bottom of the management wheel.  Of course they have plenty of decision capability, but they don't make the big ones, and even the fairly big ones are done by committee.

    IMO, the only way ST has a position on this team...is because PC and Neely are also in full agreement.  Same with all the complaining about Caron.  Sure CJ is deciding on the minutes players get, and how the flow of the game dictates that,  but the fact Caron's actually on the team right now.....think those decisions are more influenced by other management personel.

     

     
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    Bring back Andrew Ference. He knows the drill.

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    Very good 5/6 dman.  He wouldn't be very effective playing as a number two dman.

     
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    Bruins didn't trade for  Eriksson to be a third line winger....

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    Doesn't really matter on this team since they play the top 3 lines at similar TOI.  He can still get in on the PP, PK to get his ice time up.  Julien likes to have depth and use it.  Eriksson can help with the defensive responsibility of that 3rd line which could allow Spooner to stay when Kelly comes back.  That would give us 3 lines that can score and defend, and a third line that would potentially be able to dominate other team's bottom 6 in the matchup game.

     
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    In response to SoxFanInIL's comment:
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    The B's have basically been able to withstand injuries to the forwards with their young depth and people picking up their games, and even the bottom D have been deep enough when people were hurt.

    But it seems the team looks affected by the Seidenberg injury.

    Maybe its a small sample, maybe its because the teams they are playing are that good, or maybe its because Rask is in a little funk, but its hard to ignore the leaky look of the team D since Seides went down.

    Rather than look for multi cheap depth deals as in prior years, I see the B's making one deal, spending some real resources for a physical stay at home defenseman.

    I also see Thornton having a hard time getting regular playing time when eligible.

     

     

     

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    I agree.  Seidenberg was the straw that broke the camels back in terms of our defensive system holding up with all the injuries.  Before he went down we always had a really good shut down defender on the ice that could help to pick up the slack when our new forwards got caught sleeping.  Now, if a forward slips up there is nobody there and we need to Tuuka to come up bigger than usual.  We have always been a team that gives up some shots, but our system limits odd man rushes and keeps those shots to the outside --- that system has some kinks in it right now

     
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    Lucic Krejci Iginla

    Marchard Bergeron Smith/Eriksson

    Soderberg Spooner Smith/Eriksson

    Paille Campbell Kelly

    Thornton, Caron (ugh)

     

    That's a solid set of forwards right there. Can alternate sitting guys who need a break.

     
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    In response to SoxFanInIL's comment:
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    The B's have basically been able to withstand injuries to the forwards with their young depth and people picking up their games, and even the bottom D have been deep enough when people were hurt.

    But it seems the team looks affected by the Seidenberg injury.

    Maybe its a small sample, maybe its because the teams they are playing are that good, or maybe its because Rask is in a little funk, but its hard to ignore the leaky look of the team D since Seides went down.

    Rather than look for multi cheap depth deals as in prior years, I see the B's making one deal, spending some real resources for a physical stay at home defenseman.

    I also see Thornton having a hard time getting regular playing time when eligible.

     

     

     

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    Very well said. Only so many holes they can plug, Seidenberg is missed, and its glaring against the better teams. I do think though that Thornton gets back in the line up.

     

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