Re: A look at the Celtic Dominance
posted at 11/19/2010 9:06 AM EST
In Response to Re: A look at the Celtic Dominance
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: A look at the Celti Dominance : That's the thing, you'll have people in 20 years saying that Jordan wasn't all that great and that the league of 2030 is the best it's ever been. However I think it's a lazy person who can't go back and look into the past of, for this example the NBA. And learn about the championship teams, compare the size of the league, the levels of professionalism etc. And compare eras and the style of basketball. I happen to believe that in most cases a great in one era will be a great in any era. In fact their greatness may even be magnified thanks to the way the media operates now. Players are hyped beyond a reasonable level. And the news outlets attempt to make up the minds of many viewers into thinking that a guy like Lebron James it the best ever, while in reality he's nowhere near that level. Not even close. On a wider view there does seem to be a sense of devaluating the past when people are attempting to build up something in the here and now. And this counts for everything in life. Because something is new it's instantly "the best", which again, is quite often not the case. When it comes to the all time 50 player list. It should be kept at 50. If another top 50 player list is ever complied we may well be able to see who was close towards the bottom of the original list to make way for more recent players. Although I can't be seeing it changing too much. One complaint I had about the top 50 was that it did include active players. I still think it's best to consider a players career after they have retired. Although I can understand why active players were included. To me it is easier to attempt to list a top 50 players when you're looking a completed body of work from a player, rather than a career that is not even half way though.
Posted by RUWorthy[/QUOTE]
Agree, you cant consider actve players on the top 50. They are just too fresh in everyones minds and are still being marketed.. Need time to take its toll. Heck, after the rigged championship last year, people were actually elevating Kobe over MJ. What a joke.
Last night Barkley called Kobe top5 of all time.. ahead of Larry, Magic & Kareem. Just goes to show how skewed thinking is until time passes by. Many times you dont ever hear about Bill Russell being mentioned as the greatest of all time. Thats because many fans never seen him play and 30-40 years have passed by., Hes not even a memory to most.
I go back to the 60's as a serious sports fanatic. I know Babe Ruths name and stats but I wasnt watching him play. My dad told me the greatest baseball player he ever saw was Joe Dimaggio. He explained to me all the reasons why. I never saw the guy play and if not for my dad, would prob not have the high regard I have for him now.
I seen Earl Campbell play, scary great. After watching several highlight films & testimonials, I came to the conclusion hes easily the greatest RB of all time. Then I watched Barry Sanders highlights, playing for lousy teams where the gameplanned to stop him and only him. I said to myself, hes the greatest ever. Then I started watching Bo Jackson stuff...well, you get the picture.
Its really hard to say who the greatest is at anything. MJ gets that tag alot and the one reason he does is 6 championships. If he didnt have them, he wouldnt be everyones choice. Russells 11 titles worked for him until he got outdated. Now his 11 titles arent as important to some apparently. But if you could place yourself back into that era.. the prevailing conclusion was Bill is the greatest bball player ever.
Time changes everything and you just cant really make a fair list unless lumping them all together in no particular order sometimes.
Now let me tell you about Secretariet....