Ainge: Expectations of Jeff Green are too high!

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    Ainge: Expectations of Jeff Green are too high!

     Ainge: Expectations of Jeff Green are too high

     

    Written by  Nick Solari on February 6th, 2014

     

    With 4:18 left in the Celtics’ latest win on Wednesday night, Jeff Green made a move toward the basket, spun off his left shoulder to the right elbow then palmed the ball with one hand and banked in a layup. At the time, it gave Boston the 105-99 lead.

    Green finished with 36 points on 11 of 18 shooting from the floor against the 76ers, three shy of the 39 points he had against Washington in late Jan.

    Because of Green’s capability to do such things, Celtics fans have often called for more out of the 27-year-old. There is one man, however, who is not doing such a thing.

    That man is Celtics President of Basketball Operations Danny Ainge.

    “I think the expectations are too high,” Ainge said of Green on his weekly appearance with Toucher and Rich of 98.5 The Sports Hub.

    “Other than the LeBrons, Kevin Durants and Paul Georges of the world you really don’t get consistently 25, 30-plus points a night,” said Ainge. “Most players don’t ever score 36 points in a game, and Jeff’s had two in the past two weeks.”

    Green’s 36-point night last night is just three days removed from an eight-point performance against the Orlando Magic, a game that he was 2-for-13 from the floor.

    Ainge went on to say that he understood why some would feel as though Green should be scoring at a more consistent pace than he has been, but disagreed with the notion entirely.

    “I think that’s just how Jeff is. He’s a very good player and not a superstar player where we expect him to do that.”

    Ainge went even further on Green, talking only one morning after the small forward’s big night.

    “Jeff’s not going to be the guy that’s going to carry us every single night,” he said. “We don’t have a guy that’s going to do that other than Rondo once he gets back to 100 percent. We need scoring to come from everyone. We need the whole group to contribute offensively.”

     
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    Re: Ainge: Expectations of Jeff Green are too high!

    Bingo!

     

    Jeff Green is only a 3rd option on a championship team.

    If the Celts can get Asik for him then pull the trigger.

    But if the Celts can't get anything significant for Green then keep him.

     
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    Re: Ainge: Expectations of Jeff Green are too high!

    Ainge does make a good point - BUT - it is tough to lower expectations when you know JG has greatness in him (as witnessed last night)!

     

     

     

     
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    Re: Ainge: Expectations of Jeff Green are too high!

    In response to Fiercy's comment:
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    Bingo!

     

    Jeff Green is only a 3rd option on a championship team.

    If the Celts can get Asik for him then pull the trigger.

    But if the Celts can't get anything significant for Green then keep him.

    [/QUOTE]

    Your post has me thinking - is DA setting us up for a pending JG trade?

     
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    Re: Ainge: Expectations of Jeff Green are too high!

    Another possibility is Bass and Green for Boozer and a 2014 1st rounder.

     

    The Bulls were willing to give Deng 10m per year.

    Jeff Green and his 9m per year would be a suitable replacement.

     

    As for the 2014 1st rounder, the Bulls own the Bobcats' 2014 1st rounder.

    It's top 10 protected in 2014.

     
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    Re: Ainge: Expectations of Jeff Green are too high!

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    Bingo!

     

    Jeff Green is only a 3rd option on a championship team.

    If the Celts can get Asik for him then pull the trigger.

    But if the Celts can't get anything significant for Green then keep him.

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    we could get more from green. asik is a stiff

     
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    Ainge does make a good point - BUT - it is tough to lower expectations when you know JG has greatness in him (as witnessed last night)!


    It's the same with Rondo.

    There's just no reason why Rondo can't become a good 3pt shooter.

    But it's the mentality, shooter's mentality that Rondo lacks.

     

    Jeff Green's problem is mental.

    Sure his athletic ability is off the charts, but he doesn't have that scorer's mentality.

     
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    Re: Ainge: Expectations of Jeff Green are too high!

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    we could get more from green. asik is a stiff



    If you think that's bad, Mployee proposed Jeff Green and Avery Bradley for Larry Sanders and Delfino.

     
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    we could get more from green. asik is a stiff

     



    If you think that's bad, Mployee proposed Jeff Green and Avery Bradley for Larry Sanders and Delfino.

     

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    Your kidding - right?

     
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    Re: Ainge: Expectations of Jeff Green are too high!

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    we could get more from green. asik is a stiff

     

     



    If you think that's bad, Mployee proposed Jeff Green and Avery Bradley for Larry Sanders and Delfino.

     

     

     



    i would rather trade green for monroe(23) instead of asik(27)

     

     
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    Re: Ainge: Expectations of Jeff Green are too high!


    No one is expecting 25-30 a night from jgreen, but he should be able to get around 20ppg with the lack of options on this team, and hes at 16 ppg. Im not surprised tho, most players dont make a big jump after 5-6 years in the league, at that point they  r who they are. Hes been a 13-15 ppg scorer for the last few years.  I saw a stat that showed % of games where  players scored 20 or more, and pp had scored like 59% of his career games  over 20 and j green for comparison 17%. That pretty much sums it up.

     
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    Re: Ainge: Expectations of Jeff Green are too high!

    If I were JG I would take exception to that backhanded shot AInge just gave him. LOL! Maybe it will light a fire under him....but I doubt it.

     
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    Re: Ainge: Expectations of Jeff Green are too high!

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    i would rather trade green for monroe(23) instead of asik(27)



    The problem is Monroe is not a Center.

    Monroe is an offensive player, not a rim protector or a defensive anchor.

     
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    Re: Ainge: Expectations of Jeff Green are too high!

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    If I were JG I would take exception to that backhanded shot AInge just gave him. LOL! Maybe it will light a fire under him....but I doubt it.

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    It does make you wonder - what DA was hoping to accomplish? 

    1) motivate JG

    2) set Cs fans up for pending trade

    3) lower expectations to take heat off JG

    4) ?

     
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    Re: Ainge: Expectations of Jeff Green are too high!

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    In response to TheBigTicket05's comment:

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    i would rather trade green for monroe(23) instead of asik(27)

     

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    The problem is Monroe is not a Center.

     

    Monroe is an offensive player, not a rim protector or a defensive anchor.

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    asik has the same age as green. imagine how it looks if we are going to have a front court like sully-asik. who runs with rondo at the break?

     
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    Re: Ainge: Expectations of Jeff Green are too high!

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    asik has the same age as green. imagine how it looks if we are going to have a front court like sully-asik. who runs with rondo at the break?



    Don't think of it that way.

    Remember, the rotation will be Sully-Asik-Oly.

    Asik plays when the Celts need to go big.

    If the Celts want to play small ball then it will be Sully and Oly playing.

     

    Also, don't worry about Asik's age.

    Centers usually last longer in the NBA because they don't rely heavily on speed and quickness.

    Asik can still be effective until he's 34 or 35 years old.

     
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    asik has the same age as green. imagine how it looks if we are going to have a front court like sully-asik. who runs with rondo at the break?

     



    Don't think of it that way.

     

    Remember, the rotation will be Sully-Asik-Oly.

    Asik plays when the Celts need to go big.

    If the Celts want to play small ball then it will be Sully and Oly playing.

     

    Also, don't worry about Asik's age.

    Centers usually last longer in the NBA because they don't rely heavily on speed and quickness.

    Asik can still be effective until he's 34 or 35 years old.

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    i am more worried about his offense

     
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    Re: Ainge: Expectations of Jeff Green are too high!

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    Bingo!

     

    Jeff Green is only a 3rd option on a championship team.

    If the Celts can get Asik for him then pull the trigger.

    But if the Celts can't get anything significant for Green then keep him.

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    we could get more from green. asik is a stiff

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    Asik is a very good center.Excellent rebounder and rim protector.I am worried about his knees.He was having swelling on both knees,after games.Could be damaged goods.Go celtics.

     

     
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    Asik is a very good center.Excellent rebounder and rim protector.I am worried about his knees.He was having swelling on both knees,after games.Could be damaged goods.Go celtics.

     



    Only one knee, not both.

    http://blog.chron.com/ultimaterockets/2013/12/omer-asik-struggles-with-recovery-from-knee-injury/

     
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    Re: Ainge: Expectations of Jeff Green are too high!

    In response to Fiercy's comment:

    Bingo!

     

    Jeff Green is only a 3rd option on a championship team.

    If the Celts can get Asik for him then pull the trigger.

    But if the Celts can't get anything significant for Green then keep him.



    BUT ASIK IS ONLY A 3RD OPTION AT BEST.....

     

    WHY SWAP 3RD OPTIONS ?

     

    I LIKE GREEN UNLESS HE CAN BRING US A TOP 40 PLAYER IN A PACKAGE DEAL THAT GETS RID OF WALLACE.....ASIK IS NOT A TOP 40 PLAYER.....

     
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    BUT ASIK IS ONLY A 3RD OPTION AT BEST.....

     

    WHY SWAP 3RD OPTIONS ?

     

    I LIKE GREEN UNLESS HE CAN BRING US A TOP 20 PLAYER IN A PACKAGE DEAL.....ASIK IS NOT A TOP 20 PLAYER



    Because Asik is a 3rd option who's a 7-footer that can protect the rim and get rebounds.

     

    Jeff Green can only give you points.

     
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    Re: Ainge: Expectations of Jeff Green are too high!

    "Jeff Green is only a 3rd option on a championship team."

    I don't agree, to me the problem is that I think he is the 6th best player on a championship team. 

    By that I mean he should come off the bench on nights that a team needs scoring. When he plays well, he will stay in. On the nights where he is lost in space, he sits again. 

    But: Ainge stupidly paid him like the 3rd best player on a team. 

    James Worthy was the third best player on a championship team. Ray Allen was. Green is not those guys. 

    Green isn't even Toni Kukoc, third best on some of those Bulls teams. He's not even Bosh, third best on Miami. 

    It's Ainge's fault expectations are high. Green is way overpaid which means if Ainge can get over his pride and move him, he should. He's a sixth man paid like a good three.

     
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    Re: Ainge: Expectations of Jeff Green are too high!

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    "Jeff Green is only a 3rd option on a championship team."

    I don't agree, to me the problem is that I think he is the 6th best player on a championship team. 

    By that I mean he should come off the bench on nights that a team needs scoring. When he plays well, he will stay in. On the nights where he is lost in space, he sits again. 

    But: Ainge stupidly paid him like the 3rd best player on a team. 

    James Worthy was the third best player on a championship team. Ray Allen was. 

    Green isn't even Toni Kukoc, third best on some of those Bulls teams. He's not even Bosh, third best on Miami. 

    It's Ainge's fault expectations are high. Green is way overpaid which means if Ainge can get over his pride and move him, he should. He's a sixth man paid like a good three.



    It was the market price that dictated what Jeff Green should get.

    Batum and Gerald Wallace got more than what Jeff Green got.

    All 3 of them were due for a contract extension.

    Jeff Green was the cheapest.

     
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    Re: Ainge: Expectations of Jeff Green are too high!

    Nic Batum - 11.5m per year(46m for 4 years).

    Jeff Green - 9m per year(36m for 4 years).

     

    Stats

    Batum - 35.8 minutes per game, 13.0 ppg, 45.9% FG, 34.7% 3pt FG, and 81.7% FT.

    Green - 33.5 minutes per game, 16.3 ppg, 42.2% FG, 37.1% 3pt FG, and 77.4% FT.

     

    The big difference is Batum's 5.4 assists per game.

     

    Basically the Celts got Jeff Green at a reasonable price.

     
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    Re: Ainge: Expectations of Jeff Green are too high!

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    Nic Batum - 11.5m per year(46m for 4 years).

    Jeff Green - 9m per year(36m for 4 years).

     

    Stats

    Batum - 35.8 minutes per game, 13.0 ppg, 45.9% FG, 34.7% 3pt FG, and 81.7% FT.

    Green - 33.5 minutes per game, 16.3 ppg, 42.2% FG, 37.1% 3pt FG, and 77.4% FT.

     

    The big difference is Batum's 5.4 assists per game.

     

    Basically the Celts got Jeff Green at a reasonable price.




    i always thought jg is has the 50% of james-durant combo but needs to prove it every game

     

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