Re: Ainge not close to a deal.
posted at 12/20/2013 1:44 AM EST
In response to Eldunker's comment:
In response to jtkl's comment:
Yes, but PER doesn't account for defense. His calling card. The Rockets were ten points better (an absurdly high number) when he was on the floor. Not to mention only one other person in the NBA had more rebounds per 36 minutes than he did.
And he actually led the NBA in contested rebounds. You know rebounds where he had to fight for them as opposed to the ones that just land in your hands.
In the advanced stat of win shares. Asik, actually had more last year, than Paul Pierce, Rondo, or KG.
And Finally: He is a good screener.
Asik. is a good player and would have been worth the price Danny offered. I wouldn't over pay for him though.
Exactly. His value is his defensive presence and rim protector. and comparatively would be an offensive improvement over stone-hands Perkins.
Morey is treading on dangerous grounds. IF he breaks his stated deadline, then he is renegging on his own negotiation stipulations and hurts his credibility and trust.
It may just be a final ploy (I'm sure Danny is no trading angel either) and Kevin will help push the deal through.
If I'm Ainge, I say that deal was only acceptable if done today because it gives teams the flexibility to move players again this year, otherwise, Celtics offer is off the table. and go eat Shi*.
Exactly ... he's proven himself to be a liar by not taking the deal he said he already had on the table (if there ever was one) if a better one didn't present itself by 12/19.
And what about Philly ... were they that other team? Did they really want Asik? More likely they figured they could flip Asik and get more for him at the trade deadline than they could for Hawes. Philly has less than 24 hours now to ante up a better offer or they won't be able to retrade Asik and then they are out of it.
Talk about biting off your nose [Houston] to spite your face! I can't see Philly swapping after the 20th cause then they are stuck with Asik and his $15MM salary for 2014-15'. If anything, Philly has learned that there aren't too many teams at this point willing to take on that contract so who will they be able to flip it to in Feb? The contenders won't need him and for the pretenders it may be too late. At least taking it now may mean making the playoffs for some teams and amortizes the contract over two years ... $10MM/yr isn't too bad. But getting Asik in Feb when there are only a few weeks left to the season means Morey got the best of you. Will Philly give Houston Hawes and a 2014 1st round pick for Asik? I doubt it ... if they would then the C's wouldn't have come this close to a deal.
And that brings up a question. If Houston wanted Hawes and a 1st Rd Pick (2014) from Philly for Asik then what will Philly take for Hawes? How bout Bogans and our 2015 pick?