Another Rondo Thread!

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    Another Rondo Thread!

    Interesting trade scenarios! The Bucks as a possible trade partner for RR? 

    Jul 21st, 2013 at 3:52 pm by Michael Sykes, II

     

    Danny Ainge said earlier this offseason that he wasn’t making calls in order to move Rajon Rondo. Instead, he said that he was listening and fielding calls. If he finds a deal that he deems worthy enough to trade the All-Star point guard, he’ll pull the trigger.

    So what deals would be good enough? Well, for Rondo the market will be high. Even though he’s coming off of an ACL injury, those aren’t as damning as they were in year’s past and he’ll still be an All-Star level talent once he returns to the floor.

    You’d have to think that Ainge will want a young, budding player in return and at least one first round draft pick. He was able to retain three from the Brooklyn Nets for Kevin Garnett and Paul Pierce–one for Rondo is a pretty suitable price.

    I’ve put together a few deals from teams that were interested in acquiring the services of Rondo.

    Deal One: Detroit Pistions The Pistons Trade

    Andre Drummond, Brandon Knight, Rodney Stuckey and a 2014 first round pick

    The Celtics Trade

    Rajon Rondo and Brandon Bass

    Why it makes sense for both teams

    The Detroit Piston get an All-Star point guard in Rajon Rondo and they dumb an expiring contract in Josh Smith. Rondo’s 2-year deal is cap friendly with him being paid just over the total of $11 million next season. He’d be getting paid $12, 909,090 in the final year of his deal, but the Pistons wouldn’t be trying to make a splash in free agency anyway.

    Their main goal here is to win games now. Even though they gave up Knight, they’d be getting an All-Star talent at point guard in return. And with Drummond gone, they’d have room to play Smith at his natural position at the power forward spot and pair him with another skilled big in Greg Monroe–although, giving up Drummond is a hefty price.

    The Celtics would be getting two young pieces to build around in Knight and Drummond and they’d get another 2014 first round pick out of the deal. Even though they’d have to take on Rodney Stuckey’s deal, I’d say that it would be worth the price. Especially if you get the chance to land three first rounders in a deep 2014 draft class.

    Deal Two: Milwaukee Bucks The Bucks Trade

    Larry Sanders, Luke Ridnour and a 2014 first round draft pick

    The Celtics Trade

    Rajon Rondo, Courtney Lee and a 2015 second round pick

    Why it makes sense for both teams

    The Boston Celtics would get a solid piece to build around in Larry Sanders and a good point guard in Luke Ridnour. They’d get a 2014 first round pick that they’d be able to further catapult the franchise into the future with.

    The Bucks would finally get the All-Star point guard that they’ve been looking for on their team in Rondo. They’d get a decent 3-and-D player in Courtney Lee and they’d also get a future pick that they would be able to either use and mold or mortgage into something else. You can never build too many assets in the NBA.

    Deal 3: Houston Rockets Rockets Trade

    Omer Asik, Jeremy Lin, Terrence Jones and a 2014 First Round Pick

    Celtics Trade

    Rajon Rondo and Courtney Lee

    Why it makes sense for both teams

    The Houston Rockets get another All-Star to pair with the duo of James Harden and Dwight Howard. They also get a shooter to stretch the floor with Courtney Lee when they play small. Rondo will be able to get everyone going with his elite passing skill and will relieve James Harden of some of the stress of constantly being on the ball. They also get to dump Omer Asik and Jeremy Lin’s contracts.

    The Celtics will get two solid players in Omer Asik and Jeremy Lin. Asik is one of the better defensive centers in the NBA and will be a key cog in the Celtics’ defensive blueprint. They get a good future project in Terrence Jones and a 2014 first round pick to help catapult their franchise into the future.

    *****

    If we see any of these deals come together, they should have the same pieces that I’ve highlighted above available. A lot of the other teams like the New York Knicks and Dallas Mavericks just don’t have the assets to acquire Rondo for next season.

    These teams have the assets and may be willing to make deals. It all comes down to whether or not Ainge really wants to pull the trigger to move his superstar point guard. We’ll see what happens in the near future.

       

     
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    yes to detroit. 

    on bucks, maybe rondo and 2015 pick for Jennings and 2014 1strd

    no to houston.  

     
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    Yeah, that HOuston deal is not that interesting,although Ainge owes Mckhale...

     
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    Pistons and Celtics talking Drummond for Rondo?

    Life on Dumars | Jul 20

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    Your Detroit Pistons have reportedly been in the mix for whimsical All-Star point guard and roller-skating enthusiast Rajon Rondo. According to multiple sources to acquire the Connect 4 champion of the NBA the Pistons would have to part with humble beast Andre Drummond, guard Brandon Knight, and likely some future picks. The Pistons rightfully have thus far balked at including Drummond in a trade for Rondo, apparently secure in the their long term vision for a squad anchored by Drummond’s unique potential.

     

    Acquiring a player of Rondo’s caliber (assuming he recovers fully) and bolstered by a still formidable frontcourt of Josh Smith and Greg Monroe would almost certainly have the Pistons in the thick of a playoff hunt, but the long term cost is unfathomable. Maybe that’s hyperbole but an adage that rang truer in years past still has resonance here: you do not trade big for small. The league is crawling with good to very good point guards. Game changing big men are what you’d call in demand.

    - See more at: http://www.prosportsdaily.com/articles/pistons-and-celtics-talking-drummond-for-rondo-259189.html#sthash.YZjaYY7E.dpuf

     
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    Pistons and Celtics talking Drummond for Rondo?

    Life on Dumars | Jul 20

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    Your Detroit Pistons have reportedly been in the mix for whimsical All-Star point guard and roller-skating enthusiast Rajon Rondo. According to multiple sources to acquire the Connect 4 champion of the NBA the Pistons would have to part with humble beast Andre Drummond, guard Brandon Knight, and likely some future picks. The Pistons rightfully have thus far balked at including Drummond in a trade for Rondo, apparently secure in the their long term vision for a squad anchored by Drummond’s unique potential.

     

    Acquiring a player of Rondo’s caliber (assuming he recovers fully) and bolstered by a still formidable frontcourt of Josh Smith and Greg Monroe would almost certainly have the Pistons in the thick of a playoff hunt, but the long term cost is unfathomable. Maybe that’s hyperbole but an adage that rang truer in years past still has resonance here: you do not trade big for small. The league is crawling with good to very good point guards. Game changing big men are what you’d call in demand.

    - See more at: http://www.prosportsdaily.com/articles/pistons-and-celtics-talking-drummond-for-rondo-259189.html#sthash.YZjaYY7E.dpuf




    All three of these trades would be credible.  The Houston trade while full of value does not seem like a good future move though.  Asik and Linn just are not potentially that good for a team looking two to four years down the line.

     
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    Its not if, but when and to who...............Only makes sense.

     
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    Detroit doesn't own a 2014 pick.  They already traded it.  And they can't trade their 2015 pick.

    The Detroit deal has been talked to death as well as the Asik move.  Neither are happening.

     

     

     
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    the pistons and bucks deals are very good. the rockets deal, not so much. i think danny will wait this one out. once the season starts and the pistons start losing they will reconsider letting go of drummond. the bucks deal is also intriguing because larry sanders is a very good looking young big man and that 2014 1st rounder should be a decent pick.

     
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    Why do the Bucks trade Sanders when he's just come into his own ... Who will they replace him with? I'd be in for this but doubt the Bucks do this trade.

    Houston is doable but why take Lin too ... Is he that good that we need him to replace Rondo? Can't we use the TPE for something better?

    I love the Detroit deal other than their draft pick situation. If I'm correct though, their 2014 1st rounder is top 8 protected so we can opt for that or their 2015 which is top 1 protected or their 2016 which is unprotected depending on what the Bobcats do (so long as Detroit doesn't lose back to back 1st rounders).

     
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    Why do the Bucks trade Sanders when he's just come into his own ... Who will they replace him with? I'd be in for this but doubt the Bucks do this trade.

    Houston is doable but why take Lin too ... Is he that good that we need him to replace Rondo? Can't we use the TPE for something better?

    I love the Detroit deal other than their draft pick situation. If I'm correct though, their 2014 1st rounder is top 8 protected so we can opt for that or their 2015 which is top 1 protected or their 2016 which is unprotected depending on what the Bobcats do (so long as Detroit doesn't lose back to back 1st rounders).

     



    The only way the Celts will be able to use the 10.3m TPE is if the Celts only have a payroll of 65m.

     

    There is a new implemented this summer that says if you do a sign and trade, you'll be hard capped at the tax apron.

    The Celts got Bogans through a sign and trade, so right now the Celts are hard capped at 75.7m.

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    I think the C's want to be hard capped for their own sakes ... but I'd invision some moves to reduce the roster and cap space anyway before moving on a TPE deal. Wallace and Humphries have to be dealt first ... the TPE may not happen until deadline or just prior to it's expiration. That means no Rondo and only Pressey and Bradley to man the PG if dealt to Houston which would be good for tanking.

     
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    I think the C's want to be hard capped for their own sakes ... but I'd invision some moves to reduce the roster and cap space anyway before moving on a TPE deal. Wallace and Humphries have to be dealt first ... the TPE may not happen until deadline or just prior to it's expiration. That means no Rondo and only Pressey and Bradley to man the PG if dealt to Houston which would be good for tanking.

     

     



    My list of Celtic players that I want traded:

     

    1. Wallace

    2. Bass

    3. Lee

    4. Humphries

    Humphries' expiring contract has more value at the trade deadline.

    Bass and Lee are better off playing for playoff teams.

    Wallace's contract is the definition of a bad contract.

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    Agree but I think the jury's still out on Lee ... I'm willing to give him more time unless a godfather offer comes about and he needs to be included.

     
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    The problem with keeping Lee is Bradley's going to be a restricted free-agent after next season.

    Celts can't spend more than 10m for both Lee and Bradley because they're the same type of player.




    Let's wait and see if Bradley rebounds from last season's debacle ... If not then Lee's a keeper and AB gets traded.

     
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    Detroit doesn't own a 2014 pick.  They already traded it.  And they can't trade their 2015 pick.

    The Detroit deal has been talked to death as well as the Asik move.  Neither are happening.

     

     



    +10000000

     

    Came on to say this. Detroit is not an appealing deal because we won't get Drummond and they can't deal a first round pick for a couple of years until they get out of the mess with the Bobcats.

     

    Bucks is alright, but does it really help either team?

     

    I think trading Rondo does not make sense. Building a team around your franchise point guard to get him to sign a friendly extension, does.

    Celtics can put in an offer on a number of Centers next summer includig Monroe, Cousins, and Sanders

     

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