Re: April 11th, 2002
posted at 4/27/2011 12:47 AM EDT
In Response to Re: April 11th, 2002
The Bias death was tragic... LA was gifted worthy the way we should have been gifted Bias... it just evened the playing field. We'd have won in '87 no question had he lived... and maybe another title before Joran arrived... and the big 3 could have had a much painless and more graceful exit around 94-95. Maybe Det never wins and with a ton of Bos-Chi battles (over NY) in the East playoss there is no bad boys/thug ball era. Just the smooth fun play of Reggie and Bias w/ bird the ageless wonder vs. Jordan and Pippen. 19-15 woulda been the tally at least (19-9 Boston vs. LA)
Posted by rameakap
I hope I still look the same when I'm 37! You're not that much older than I am :)
Watched a lot of Lakers/Celtics videos when I was younger. Also now have the '85 Finals on DVD along with the Lakers Dynasty DVD set. Plus I've read a lot of books, perhaps too many NBA books.
I really wouldn't have wanted to be at game 6 in '08. But I reckon you would have enjoyed it. Must have been a fun game for be at for a Celtic fan. Especially after years of disappointments.
Did take a long time for Maxwell to be welcomed back by Boston. His number being retired was a long time coming, was the Celtics best player in the '81 finals and was the difference in Game 7 in '84. From what I can tell both Red and Maxwell could have handled the whole thing a lot better in '85. Perhaps Maxwell had really had enough by then. He had played for a number of years and was a multiple NBA champion. Maybe subconsciously he felt he'd achieved everything he could in the game. His play for the Clippers was average. Either way the Celtics did improve a lot by having a healthy Bill Walton in '86.
'87 is a hard one. Walton may still well have broken his ankle on the exercise bike and that is a big loss no matter what. I really think the Celtics missed him a lot in '87. Not only on the court but in the locker room as well. Bias could really have done anything though. Hard to say what he would have done in his first year. But I don't think we had a player who would have been able to cover him. Thompson was bought in to counter Walton. But who would have handled Bias? Cooper may have been a bit too small. He did a good job on Larry Bird, but Bias was much more athletically gifted than Bird. Guarding Bias would have been a headache. Although his weakness may well have been that he was a rookie and prone to making 'rookie' mistakes. But imagine having him with guys like Bird, Walton and Johnson around him? Wow, the basketball IQ of those guys was off the scales and that would have helped Bias really mature as a player.
I think what hurt McHale was that he kept playing on that broken foot in '87. If he had rested up he may well have extended his career, he misses the play offs but doesn't destroy his foot in the process. Mad thing is that Bias may well have been on the court the time McHale got injured. It's a whole lot of if's and maybe's. McHale was a freak of a player so unique.
Larry could well have benefited from what rest Bias would have given him. But we don't know how his back would have held up. May well have had the same problems even with rest. A player like Bird didn't deserve to have the decision to retire effectively taken out of his hands. Same with Magic, that comeback in '96 was great to see, but it was really sad at the same time if you know what I mean? At least I got to see him play in a meaningful game, was 5, going on 6 and saw him in Seattle in a regular season game against the SuperSonics. Ironic that Magic and Bird both really didn't have a say in how their careers ended.
I don't like that Pistons team at all. I know they would not have swept us in the '88 finals had Magic and Byron been healthy. They may well have won, but we wouldn't have lost every game, no way in the world.