Re: best 5 celtics as from 1982
posted at 9/24/2011 3:43 PM EDT
In Response to Re: best 5 celtics as from 1982
[QUOTE]Seems......ok, to me, the modern NBA started with the shot clock......that said, you are correct that as years (decades) went by the game was being dominated predominantly by blacks.....of course there were many great white players such as Jerry West, John Havlicek, Rick Barry, Bill Bradley, etc in that league at that time.... I'd go back at least ten years.....1966/67, when the Sixers posted one of the greatest seasons in league history....look at that team....four of the five starters were black (Chamberlain, Jackson, Walker, and Greer)...and Wali Jones was off the bench right behind Cunningham... The Warriors were their opponents.....interestingly enough, the only black star was Thurmond... Boston had Russ, Sam, KC, Satch, and big Wayne Embry who was Russell's backup The Hawks had Beaty, Bridges, Caldwell, Hudson, Silas, and Wilkins The Knicks had Reed, Bellamy, Barnett, and Stallworth The Lakers had Baylor, Hawkins, Chambers, and Clark The Royals had Oscar, Hairston, and Love Finally the Bulls were somewhat like the Warriors.....they only had Rogers and Boozer My point is that the league had many black stars way before the late '70's and remember, the league was only a few years away from Alcinder and Hayes... I'm probably forgetting some stars (where was Gus Johnson that year...?) ....and, of course, there were other lesser known blacks in the league...but my point is that the league had as many black stars as whites by the late '60's anyway, as you said......this is just an opinion buddy...
Posted by Duke4[/QUOTE]
Hey ,how goes the battle Duke?
A very nice accurrate statement of facts to support your opinion. Check your quote below.
"I'm probably forgetting some stars (where was Gus Johnson that year...?) ....and, of course, there were other lesser known blacks in the league...but my point is that the league had as many black stars as whites by the late '60's"
Gus Johnson was with Baltimore and you missed Dave Bing with detroit.
Also, your right about Blacks being equal to whites in the late 60's but note Duke that I used the words " Blacks with their speed,quickness and agility took over the game". Here are some numbers to illustrate my contention.
Starting with Russell's 1st year in the league(1956-57) to the present I will list the percentage of Whites vs Blacks that are under 6'8" tall and rank in the top 5 scorers in points per team. Used under 6'8" as representative of the speed players.
For example: 1956-57- 8 teams in the league x 5 players = 40 players.Of those 40 players 29 were 6'7" or shorter of which 25 were white= 86%.
57-58: 40 players,90% white 58-59: 40 players,82% white 59-60: 40 players,75% white 60-61: 40 players,71 % white 61-62: 9 teams= 45 players, 71% white 62-63: 45 players,59% white. Then it pretty much leveled off over the next 6 years. 63-64, 48% 64-65, 55% 65-66, 50%
66-67, 50% 67-68, 48% 68-69, 45% .
With the end of segregation in the college ranks in the deep south in 1974 a black surge into the pro ranks took place and this coupled with the folding of the ABA saw the white percentage rate drop to 16% in 1979-80. Blacks from the deep south continued to flow into the nba dropping the white percentage down to 11% 1n 1986-87. The under 6'8" white player is dam near extinct now and as of 2009-10 out of the top 150 scorers in the league(30 teams x 5 players) of the 74 which were under 6'8", only 3 are white americans. Thats a lowly 4%. Thats a 86% drop from the 57-58 season. Speed is the name of the game now and its dominance started in the late 70's. Add the remarkable ball handling skills of the modern player to the speed of the black athlete and you have a dynamic combination.