Re: Big Baby for Andy V or Nick Young?
posted at 7/19/2011 8:02 PM EDT
In Response to Re: Big Baby for Andy V or Nick Young?
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Big Baby for Andy V or Nick Young? : Thanks. Big Baby has simply gotten bad or no advice for how to shape his body. I think he needed to trim down. He will always be strong, and he's not going to forget that martial arts center of gravity approach. He's not going to get any taller. He needs a hippety-hoppity in his step to survive the NBA. The less weight he puts on his legs, the better. He's amazing around the basket. I think if he trims some baby fat and gets his knees working, he really could be a Baby Shaq around the rim on offense. There's only so much ribbing one will take. I agree. Once or twice, fine, make your jokes. Like John Candy said in Planes, Trains, and Automobiles, "I know I'm an easy target." But Doc never closed his yapper.He was the opposite of a player's coach the way he treated Davis. I recall you're not a big fan of Perk's game. What happened with Perk the year we almost stole a title from the Lakers was similar to how Baby fell apart last year. The first half, Perk was trim and fast. He stayed within himself, and I think he was somewhere around a 10 pts., 10 rebounds, and 2 blocks.
Then he got tendinitis, and it all fell apart. Of course with Perk's knee and shoulder troubles, Danny was not going to resign him for 9 million or whatever it would have taken. So I'm not too upset about that trade. But I will be, if Doc doesn't start growing as a coach and get the most out of the roster. Could a different coach have better utilized Jeff Green, Nenad Krstic, and Von Wafer? Of course. We could've beaten the Heat. I'm not sure about Dallas, but a good coach would have gotten us past Lebron and Wade. Once it became clear our Big Three wasn't going to be able to get it done, Doc had a deer in the headlights routine going. Doc's an excellent coach in a few ways. Unfortunately he's awful when it comes to the most important duties of a head coach. He has no clue how to manage minutes, make substitutions, and come up with alternatives when facing adversity. He doesn't run an open shop. He is not a player's coach. He is a star's coach. Jordan and Kobe would have loved playing for Doc Rivers. I'm not so sure their teammates would have agreed.
Posted by NickFaldo[/QUOTE]
you're right, i wasn't a fan of perkins, UNTIL the first half of that last full year he played with the team. man was he good. everything was as good as it could be. his hands somehow got better. he scored and rebounded like a dirty work 5 in THIS league should- 10 and 10- i know from the old days 20 years ago a 10 and 10 center was a dog, but perk's 10 and 10 for this team was great in this new league style of play.
and then he fell apart. by the playoffs he was unwatchable and very unproductive, just as he was for OKC in their playoff run where ibaka had to do EVERYTHING at the 5 spot while perkins basically watched.
trading perkins was very smart- his shoulder was a career long issue and perhaps it played a big role in his tendency to taper off as time/seasons went on. i am fairly certain that OKC is already regretting throwing 30 million at the guy, you can get a good locker room guy for less, if that's all he's going to be.
davis, on the other hand, would be a real shame to see walk away as a healthy player, who had more development left in him, and had functioned so well with this team, embodied so much celtic lunch pail and hustle type that every celts fan SHOULD look for and value.
if some team gets him and gets him the big man rebounding coaching that he needs to become an adequate rebounder per minute played then ainge and rivers are going to look the fools big time. boards are a deficiency in his game but i can't imagine it's insurmountable given the right tutoring. i think once we miss the superior gap closing team defense of davis, ONE LONE ASPECT OF HIS GAME, on this aged, increasingly not quick team, people will rue the day that doc blithers rode him out of town on a boston globe reporter microphone.
nobody on this board has ever explained away why doc trashed davis to the press as much as he did, it was downright frikkin habitual in nature. totally unprofessional behavior toward a kid that, if anything, seemed TOO good natured for his size and you almost wished he would get mean sometimes and floor some people. made no sense and still makes no sense. but this is doc, it's who he is. hates young players, probably hates anyone young who is good natured twice as much.