Bring Troy Murphy to Boston Already
posted at 1/21/2011 12:59 PM EST
In Response to Re: Bring Troy Murphy to Boston Already
[QUOTE]Dudder, I'm shocked at this statement: It is my opinion that, when healthy, the Cs are no worse off with D West as the point guard. I had to read it twice to make sure it was you. I can't believe you wrote that. West is in no way near the PG that Rondo is. Rondo has his faults but West couldn't hold down a spot in Cleveland. He should've walked in there and moved MoWill over to SG but he couldn't do it. West is a solid backup PG with the ability to shoot. He can't create like Rondo and isn't the floor general Rondo is either. His shot is better and on defense Rondo has bad habits but gets away with it because of his quick hands and feet. West has never played steady enough to make an All Defensive team. Would the team be 32-9 or better with West as the starting PG. I seriously doubt it. If you put Rondo on the Cavs last year they are running and getting more people involved than LeBron and 4 other guys. There's a reason West has not stuck anywhere.
Posted by BiasLewis[/QUOTE]
West was the back up point guard in Cleveland to the best point guard in the league - LeBron.
Mo Williams was a 2 playing the point.
The Cs have a better record without Rondo (when you exclude the games that KG was also out). Cedric Maxwell said "no offense to Rondo but the Cs move the ball better without him".
It is my opinion that Rondo cannot be any more overrated than anyone could come up with.
There is no point guard in the league that plays with as much talent. And in my opinon yes - the Cs would be no worse off with West as the starting point guard. Brooks embarrassed Rondo off the floor last week otherwise the Cs would be looking at winning 6 straight at home (assuming they win tonight and I think they will).
Look around the league - you see point guards shooting 46% from the field, 40% from 3, and 85% from the line. Rondo avoids shooting from the field, avoids shooting from 3, an avoids shooting from the line.
He puts tremendous pressure on the rest of his teammates to score and his on the ball defense is vastly overrated in my opinion.
I continue to believe and always will that with any number of other more traditional point guards the Cs would be no worse off and in many cases a lot better. With West they are no worse off in my opinion.
When your team loses its best player (KG) does the GREAT point guard step up and take over the team? Nope... scores 10 points and makes sure he gets his assists but during that stretch he doesn't get all of his assists because KG is not there to make jumpers - Davis is there and doesn't make as many jumpers so Rondo does not get as many assists or there is an extra pass and a better shot and then Rondo does not get the assist. Does his scoring average go up? Nope. Does the team keep winning? Nope. Notice how in some of those games Rondo's scoring average did not go up and his assists were not in double digits.
The thing that most posters / fans / bloggers simply cannot analyze or grasp is that nobody in the league plays with as much talent as Rondo and as a result Rondo is vastly and almost immeasurably overrated. Give Jrue Holiday Shaq, PP, Ray, and KG and they keep winning - unless of course why would you want a guy that shoots 44% from the floor, 40% from 3, and 80% from the line.
As I have said a million times there are at least a dozen point guards in the league who could step in and the Cs would be no worse off and in a lot of cases a lot better. Give up a little defense? Maybe. Get a lot more on offense? Absolutely.
West not making an all defense team is largely irrelevant if his offense more than makes up for it. West cannot create his own shot? Rondo is one of the worst finishers in the league. And he is given wide open shots on just about every possession and very rarely takes them and just about every time given them, he misses. If West was given those uncontested jumpers he would average 25 points per game but he would actually be guarded so it is impossible to tell whether he can create his own shot. He does, however, get to the rim fairly often and when he does he shoots, gets fouled, and makes the freebies. Rondo gets to the rim and misses from two feet or kicks it out to someone who is 20 feet away from the rim but also one of the greatest scorers in history. Rondo being unable to finish and kicking the ball out to lesser players would have 6 or 8 fewer assists per game and the team would be a lot worse.