Brooklyn is 2-5

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    Brooklyn is 2-5

    Thank you, Danny.

     
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    "The three picks will come in the 2014, 2016 and 2018 drafts, but it's not as simple as saying the Celtics get Brooklyn's first-round pick in those drafts. Boston will receive the worse of Brooklyn or Atlanta's first-round pick in the 2014 draft, since the Hawks have the right to switch first-round picks with the Nets in the 2014 NBA Draft. Boston will then have the right to swap first-round picks with the Nets themselves in the first round of the 2017 Draft."

     
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    "The three picks will come in the 2014, 2016 and 2018 drafts, but it's not as simple as saying the Celtics get Brooklyn's first-round pick in those drafts. Boston will receive the worse of Brooklyn or Atlanta's first-round pick in the 2014 draft, since the Hawks have the right to switch first-round picks with the Nets in the 2014 NBA Draft. Boston will then have the right to swap first-round picks with the Nets themselves in the first round of the 2017 Draft."

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    Hey CHAMP!   You made my point and that is the Celtics will not be competitive untile 2022!  Enjoy fool!1036316054

     
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    The whole league is so screwed up right now, just look at the standings.

    Bottom of the East

    Washington - such a hot end of the year in 2013, everyone was expecting a healthy Wall and Nene to contend for a 6th spot in the East... especially after getting Gortat
    Brooklyn - Many expected them to be one of the few teams to contend with the Heat...

    Milwakee - Did everything they could to squeeze into the playoffs this year (Mayo, Zaza, Butler) and was suppose to have one of the up and coming big men in the league in Sanders

    Detroit - Smith, Monroe, Drummond ... designed for a 6-8 seed

    Cleveland - Irving, Bynum ... Bennet ... Jack ... this team again was suppose to be a playoff team contending with Detroit & 

    New York - Everyone knows they are a fake good team ... but not in the lottery!

     

    76ers ... enough said. What are they doing. Boston, Orlando currently in the playoffs.

    In the WEST:

    Denver, Lakers, Dallas better records than Memphis? THE Memphis team who spanked the Clips in the playoffs last year!

    The Suns have the same record as the heat. The end.

    Portland is 6-2? 3rd in the west? This is killing my Aldridge trade.

     

    And the icing on the cake ... Utah just beat Houston. Yeah that super team with arguable the best 2 and 5 in the league

     

    WHAT IS HAPPENING?

     

     
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    The whole league is so screwed up right now, just look at the standings.

    Bottom of the East

    Washington - such a hot end of the year in 2013, everyone was expecting a healthy Wall and Nene to contend for a 6th spot in the East... especially after getting Gortat
    Brooklyn - Many expected them to be one of the few teams to contend with the Heat...

    Milwakee - Did everything they could to squeeze into the playoffs this year (Mayo, Zaza, Butler) and was suppose to have one of the up and coming big men in the league in Sanders

    Detroit - Smith, Monroe, Drummond ... designed for a 6-8 seed

    Cleveland - Irving, Bynum ... Bennet ... Jack ... this team again was suppose to be a playoff team contending with Detroit & 

    New York - Everyone knows they are a fake good team ... but not in the lottery!

     

    76ers ... enough said. What are they doing. Boston, Orlando currently in the playoffs.

    In the WEST:

    Denver, Lakers, Dallas better records than Memphis? THE Memphis team who spanked the Clips in the playoffs last year!

    The Suns have the same record as the heat. The end.

    Portland is 6-2? 3rd in the west? This is killing my Aldridge trade.

     

    And the icing on the cake ... Utah just beat Houston. Yeah that super team with arguable the best 2 and 5 in the league

     

    WHAT IS HAPPENING?

     

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    Must be the refs ... Haha!

     
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    We have 6 first round picks in the next 3 drafts and cap space.

    Plenty of assets to trade and room to sign free agents.

     
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    we get the worse of the Nets and Hawks pick. so right now, the Hawks have the Nets pick and Boston will get the Hawks pick.

     
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    "We have 6 first round picks in the next 3 drafts and cap space.

    Plenty of assests to trade and room to sign free agents."

     

    Indeed. However: draft picks as "assets" are a bit tricky as you still have to trade players wth matching salaries. It really helps if those players have good contracts and are good players as few teams want to take your junk even if the draft pick you send along with that player is pretty good. 

     

    "we get the worse of the Nets and Hawks pick. so right now, the Hawks have the Nets pick and Boston will get the Hawks pick."

     

    yup and I believe both will make the playoffs, no sure a "Hawks/Nets" draft pick watch is very exciting. 

    We need to secure our own lottery pick by losing a lot of games...

     
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    "We have 6 first round picks in the next 3 drafts and cap space.

    Plenty of assests to trade and room to sign free agents."

     

    Indeed. However: draft picks as "assets" are a bit tricky as you still have to trade players wth matching salaries. It really helps if those players have good contracts and are good players as few teams want to take your junk even if the draft pick you send along with that player is pretty good. 

     

    "we get the worse of the Nets and Hawks pick. so right now, the Hawks have the Nets pick and Boston will get the Hawks pick."

     

    yup and I believe both will make the playoffs, no sure a "Hawks/Nets" draft pick watch is very exciting. 

    We need to secure our own lottery pick by losing a lot of games...

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    So the swap of Jeff Green for Glen Davis to get Ray Allen had to be sweetened with Wally Szczerbiak (ankle surgery) and Delonte West (bi-polar) ... Good players with good contracts or garbage to match salaries ... How do you reconcile that?

     
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    We have 6 first round picks in the next 3 drafts and cap space.

    Plenty of assests to trade and room to sign free agents.



    It is more simple said than done.  Still, picking a good top player in this next draft would not hurt either.  You can't trade up to get those players, no one will do it if they have the top few picks.  They won't trade a top pick for 3 mid 1st round picks and junk player(s). The old addage still applies, getting the one best player in the trade wins.  Can we pull off what Miami did or what the Lakers have done in the past with super stud free-agent?  I am not so sure. And you need at least one or two top tier players to be in the game of contending.  Good luck if you think you can easily get those players through trades and a bunch of mid round draft picks.

     
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    We have 6 first round picks in the next 3 drafts and cap space.

    Plenty of assests to trade and room to sign free agents.

     

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    It is more simple said than done.  Still, picking a good top player in this next draft would not hurt either.  You can't trade up to get those players, no one will do it if they have the top few picks.  They won't trade a top pick for 3 mid 1st round picks and junk player(s). The old addage still applies, getting the one best player in the trade wins.  Can we pull off what Miami did or what the Lakers have done in the past with super stud free-agent?  I am not so sure. And you need at least one or two top tier players to be in the game of contending.  Good luck if you think you can easily get those players through trades and a bunch of mid round draft picks.

     

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    "Good luck if you think you can easily get those players through trades and a bunch of mid round draft picks."

    You mean like we did with Ray Allen and KG???????

     
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    Exactly.  There was nothing to be had that year, so Ainge went that way after 5-6 years of rebuilding.  That was the right thing to do at the time.  What is the right thing to do at this moment in time?

     
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    PHOENIX -- Following the type of non-effort defeat that got Avery Johnson fired early last season, Nets GM Billy King closed himself behind the door of a room that also held Jason Kidd and Kevin Garnett.

    For whatever reason, King felt they needed privacy and a barrier from the media inside the Sacramento arena, perhaps because there was a discussion inside on why little is going according to plan. It seemed innocouos, but what happened on the court certainly was not.

    But this is it for the Nets, more or less. They may not have their own first-round draft pick for the next five years, depending on various options being exercised. They’re not projected to be under the salary cap until 2016.

    The finger of blame could be pointed in several directions. Garnett has been an ineffective glorified role player on a tight minutes restriction, averaging six points and playing like he lost a step or three. The 37-year-old has made it harder to ignore that that he seriously considered retirement after last season.

    http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/nets/king-kidding-meets-coach-nets-disappoint-article-1.1517883#ixzz2kgzX702a

     
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    PHOENIX -- Following the type of non-effort defeat that got Avery Johnson fired early last season, Nets GM Billy King closed himself behind the door of a room that also held Jason Kidd and Kevin Garnett.

    For whatever reason, King felt they needed privacy and a barrier from the media inside the Sacramento arena, perhaps because there was a discussion inside on why little is going according to plan. It seemed innocouos, but what happened on the court certainly was not.

    But this is it for the Nets, more or less. They may not have their own first-round draft pick for the next five years, depending on various options being exercised. They’re not projected to be under the salary cap until 2016.

    The finger of blame could be pointed in several directions. Garnett has been an ineffective glorified role player on a tight minutes restriction, averaging six points and playing like he lost a step or three. The 37-year-old has made it harder to ignore that that he seriously considered retirement after last season.

    http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/nets/king-kidding-meets-coach-nets-disappoint-article-1.1517883#ixzz2kgzX702a

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    haha this could end up the basketball equivalent of the herschel walker trade

     
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    Not surprised one bit after watching PP & KG the last year or two. And all those sports writers that are supposed to know more than us ... Sometimes the eyes are correct and what looks good on paper ain't so good in real life. Congrats, Danny!!!

     
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    Not surprised one bit after watching PP & KG the last year or two. And all those sports writers that are supposed to know more than us ... Sometimes the eyes are correct and what looks good on paper ain't so good in real life. Congrats, Danny!!!

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    The old grey mare she ain't what she used to be.

    I knew KG was done when I saw a small guard dunk over him.

     
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    Remember, kg has started out slow the last two seasons, but improved mid season...usually around christmas.

    Maybe he takes the summers off now to heal, then plays his way into shape as part of the plan.

     
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    Remember, kg has started out slow the last two seasons, but improved mid season...usually around christmas.

    Maybe he takes the summers off now to heal, then plays his way into shape as part of the plan.

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    I would imagine that they will be a better team as the season progresses.  I also don't believe that hiring Kidd as the coach was the best idea.  They could have hired someone with some experience. 

     
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    Isnt lawrence franks on that staff?  If so, he's the defacto coach anyway.

     
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    chris33, I think you nailed it.  All last season, we saw KG and PP struggle through a 41-40 regular season and a quick exit against the Knicks.  We saw PP unable to do anything against Shumpert in the playoffs.  We all remember cringing every time PP got the ball in space being guarded by Shumpert.  Turnover.

    And we knew KG was a shell of himself last year.  We saw signs of that when guys easily blew by him.  He couldn't guard straight up and oftentimes was late on rotations.

    A minutes restriction is the worst thing you can do with a player like KG.  He's not aggressive enough to maximize the minutes he's out there so sometimes he just doesn't get engaged.  KG spends too much time trying to get everyone else going that, with a minutes restriction, he doesn't get going.

    The Nets are a disaster.  They didn't need PP and KG.  They have 3 bonifide scorers in Williams, Johnson and Lopez with Blatche, Livingston and Kirilenko coming off the bench.  They needed role players and beast on the boards (like Reggie Evans).  They need a PF who doesn't need the ball and can focus on defense and rebounds.

    The Nets are too unselfish.  Sooner or later, Kidd is going to have to sit KG on the bench.  You'll then see more chemistry out of that team.  The old Nets are wasting their time trying to involve PP and KG but all PP and KG are looking to do is pass it back to them to get them involved.

     
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    Brooklyn up 1 against the Suns with 50 secs ...

     

    Oops ... Suns by 2 with 39 secs ... Nets still challenged.

     

    Nets tie it with 30 secs ...

     

    OT!!!

     

    Wow ... Nets just avoided going 2-6 tonight as time ran out in OT. Not too good!

     
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    Brooklyn lucky to beat the Suns , nice play by Joe Johnson to beat his former team, I think Brooklyn will be lucky to be over .500 when the playoffs start , certainly not a top 4 home court team ...

    Suns & Celtics mirror images of a re-build.....

    PHOTO: one of my photos, 2007 Phoenix backally graffitti 

     
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    Brooklyn up 1 against the Suns with 50 secs ...

     

    Oops ... Suns by 2 with 39 secs ... Nets still challenged.

     

    Nets tie it with 30 secs ...

     

    OT!!!

     

    Wow ... Nets just avoided going 2-6 tonight as time ran out in OT. Not too good!

     

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    How's the weather down there in the "Loser's Circle"?

     

    HAHAHA

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    You'll know shortly when the C's get their 5th win ... How's it feel cutting yourself as as chum with two weeks to go only needing one win to make you WRONG AGAIN .... SEE YA LATER, LOSER!

     

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