Bulls and Celtics can do business

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    I can't believe how ineffective Wallace has been , just horrible.

    How does a guy who has always (easily) averaged about 12-15 points a year suddenly not score at all ?

    He sure runs his mouth though....

     

    I thought Wallace would be a big upgrade over Brandon Bass and would fit in perfectly with the new "positionless" small ball era Celtics

    He's just been terrible

    And I don't like how he's the only guy who's "off message" .....

    You can't be running your mouth when you're averaging 2 points a game and you're getting 25 minutes a game !

    This guy has to go , sooner rather than later.

    And what about Mr Humpty  ? He was supposed to be the villan and a bad influence, he's been the exact opposite. If they can resign him for Scalabrine money or even Rasheed Wallace money, wouldn't that make sense ?

    Still, all of this, even the losing , is better than having to watch Pierce and KG disintigrate before our very eyes........

     

     

     
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    kupchak 5 NBA Titles

    ainge 1 NBA Title

     

    Missingteeth

     
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    Typical laker fan response...............

    West built the team.......Kupcake owes his first 3 to West.  Kupcake 2 Ainge 1

    since the lakers last won the NBA title........kupchak hasn't made a right move.  

     
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    Huh!  Everybody and their brother from Boston area knows Ainge was handed a title on a silver platter from his bud McHale.  That's the only way Ainge can get a championship.  For god's sakes what gm has seats under the basket in a playoff game and tries to prevent the opposing team from making a free throw by throwing up a white towel at the same exact time the player from the opposing team shoots the ft?  A classless tool that does not know how to draft that's who!

    Slapping

     
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    The only way we trade Wallace is package him with picks or someone like Rondo. We should just buy him out and suffer the cap hit for a few more years.

     
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    In response to Fiercy's comment:
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    http://espn.go.com/chicago/nba/story/_/id/10261569/chicago-bulls-enter-unknown-luol-deng-not-giving-starting-over?ex_cid=espnapi_public

    Then erase "rebuilding" from your Bulls vocabulary.

    "Rebuilding is not a word to use when you still have players like Joakim Noah on your team and you still have Derrick Rose, who we fully expect to come back healthy," Paxson, now the Bulls vice president of basketball operations, said Tuesday in his media tour. "You don't rebuild with a coach like Tom."

    [/QUOTE]

    Anyway we could make a deal to get Thibs back? LOL. 

     
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    The Bulls would never take Wallace - ever! They are trying to clear cap room and tank. This is crazy.

     
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    In response to Mployee8's comment:

     

    Why are you giving false info to the readers here???

     

    "Amnestying Boozer means the Bulls still pay Boozer the 16.8m."

    That's simply NOT TRUE!!!

    Once he were to clear waivers there is a bidding process and the highest bid is then deducted from his original team's obligation. So, say the Mavs win Boozer in the auction for $7.8MM. Then the Bulls obligation would be reduced to $9MM.

    The Bulls could also buy out his last year or waive him and stretch that last year over three for a max cap hit of $5.6MM per year.

     

     Some here also thought we wouldn't be able to get rid of Lee

    Who? I don't remember any poster saying we wouldn't be able to move Lee. Most thought he'd be combined with Bass or others in a multi-player deal but nobody said he was untradeable. Stop Lying!!!



    http://www.sportingnews.com/nba/story/2013-07-10/nba-amnesty-clause-candidates-heat-lakers-thunder-bulls-mike-miller-world-peace

    • Players who are waived by amnesty are not immediately unrestricted free agents. They first must pass through a waiver-style bidding process over 48 hours. First, teams have the opportunity to assume the player’s full contract (which never happens). Once that process passes, teams under the salary cap have the opportunity to bid on the player. The highest bid wins, and if there are equal bids, the team with the worse record gets the player. The player may not be re-signed by the team that released him.


    How many teams out there who are under the cap will want to give a 32-year old Boozer a significant amount of money?

    You really think there's a team out there who will give Boozer 7.8m?

    That's just you manipulating the facts.

     

    And there were some here that never believed we could get an expiring contract for Lee, that's a fact!

     

     
  10. You have chosen to ignore posts from Fiercy. Show Fiercy's posts

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    In response to BostonTrollSpanker's comment:

    The Bulls would never take Wallace - ever! They are trying to clear cap room and tank. This is crazy.



    Thibs will never play along with tanking.

     
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    In response to Fiercy's comment:
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    In response to Mployee8's comment:
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    Why are you giving false info to the readers here???

     

    "Amnestying Boozer means the Bulls still pay Boozer the 16.8m."

    That's simply NOT TRUE!!!

    Once he were to clear waivers there is a bidding process and the highest bid is then deducted from his original team's obligation. So, say the Mavs win Boozer in the auction for $7.8MM. Then the Bulls obligation would be reduced to $9MM.

    The Bulls could also buy out his last year or waive him and stretch that last year over three for a max cap hit of $5.6MM per year.

     

     Some here also thought we wouldn't be able to get rid of Lee

    Who? I don't remember any poster saying we wouldn't be able to move Lee. Most thought he'd be combined with Bass or others in a multi-player deal but nobody said he was untradeable. Stop Lying!!!

     

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    http://www.sportingnews.com/nba/story/2013-07-10/nba-amnesty-clause-candidates-heat-lakers-thunder-bulls-mike-miller-world-peace

     

    • Players who are waived by amnesty are not immediately unrestricted free agents. They first must pass through a waiver-style bidding process over 48 hours. First, teams have the opportunity to assume the player’s full contract (which never happens). Once that process passes, teams under the salary cap have the opportunity to bid on the player. The highest bid wins, and if there are equal bids, the team with the worse record gets the player. The player may not be re-signed by the team that released him.


    How many teams out there who are under the cap will want to give a 32-year old Boozer a significant amount of money?

    You really think there's a team out there who will give Boozer 7.8m?

    That's just you manipulating the facts.

     

    And there were some here that never believed we could get an expiring contract for Lee, that's a fact!

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    Never would a team that had a competent gm would go down this road.  I almost cringed at the Boozer trades to the Lakers up until now.  I would give him the mid level exception for a nice piece. 

    Mid-level exception(Fom Wiki)

    Once a year, teams can use a mid-level exception (MLE) to sign a player to a contract for a specified maximum amount. The amount of the MLE and its duration depend on the team's cap status. The MLE is $5 million for a duration of four years for teams that are over the cap either before or after the signing, but did not pay a luxury tax in the previous season.

     
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    Huh!  Everyone and his sister knows that West built the lakers.  When Kupcake took over, kobe wanted him fired, and told him his grade as GM was an "F".

    Then, West, again, gifted Gasol to the lakers when CHI clearly had a better offer on the table.

    So, actually, West is responsible for ALL 5 of kupcake's titles...........

    And for the record, any NBA player who can't hit a FT because one person in the stands is waving a towel doesn't belong in the league!

     
  13. You have chosen to ignore posts from Mployee8. Show Mployee8's posts

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    In response to Fiercy's comment:
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    In response to Mployee8's comment:

    [QUOTE]

     

     

    Why are you giving false info to the readers here???

     

    "Amnestying Boozer means the Bulls still pay Boozer the 16.8m."

    That's simply NOT TRUE!!!

    Once he were to clear waivers there is a bidding process and the highest bid is then deducted from his original team's obligation. So, say the Mavs win Boozer in the auction for $7.8MM. Then the Bulls obligation would be reduced to $9MM.

    The Bulls could also buy out his last year or waive him and stretch that last year over three for a max cap hit of $5.6MM per year.

     

     Some here also thought we wouldn't be able to get rid of Lee

    Who? I don't remember any poster saying we wouldn't be able to move Lee. Most thought he'd be combined with Bass or others in a multi-player deal but nobody said he was untradeable. Stop Lying!!!

     

    [/QUOTE]

    http://www.sportingnews.com/nba/story/2013-07-10/nba-amnesty-clause-candidates-heat-lakers-thunder-bulls-mike-miller-world-peace

     

    • Players who are waived by amnesty are not immediately unrestricted free agents. They first must pass through a waiver-style bidding process over 48 hours. First, teams have the opportunity to assume the player’s full contract (which never happens). Once that process passes, teams under the salary cap have the opportunity to bid on the player. The highest bid wins, and if there are equal bids, the team with the worse record gets the player. The player may not be re-signed by the team that released him.


    How many teams out there who are under the cap will want to give a 32-year old Boozer a significant amount of money?

    You really think there's a team out there who will give Boozer 7.8m?

    That's just you manipulating the facts.

     

    And there were some here that never believed we could get an expiring contract for Lee, that's a fact!

     

    [/QUOTE]


    You needed to post the rule so you can see it in black & white?  I already know the rule. Boozer would pass thru waivers cuz nobody will pick up his contract. Then he goes into bidding. I used an arbitrary figure for a winning bid. And who can say how much an under the cap team (Suns for example) are willing to bid for some veteran leadership. Whether it's $5MM or $8MM that's not even the point!

    You said the Bulls had to eat Boozer's $16MM contract if amnestied and that's just simply INCORRECT. Whatever the winning bidder pays will come off the Bulls contractual obligation. And you didn't even address the possible use of the stretch provision if untradeable and waived ...

    Bottom line ... WRONG AGAIN!!!

     
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    In response to Mployee8's comment:

     

    You needed to post the rule so you can see it in black & white?  I already know the rule. Boozer would pass thru waivers cuz nobody will pick up his contract. Then he goes into bidding. I used an arbitrary figure for a winning bid. And who can say how much an under the cap team (Suns for example) are willing to bid for some veteran leadership. Whether it's $5MM or $8MM that's not even the point!

    You said the Bulls had to eat Boozer's $16MM contract if amnestied and that's just simply INCORRECT. Whatever the winning bidder pays will come off the Bulls contractual obligation. And you didn't even address the possible use of the stretch provision if untradeable and waived ...

    Bottom line ... WRONG AGAIN!!!



    You're the one who's wrong, Mployee.

    It's simple, right now you don't know which teams will be under the cap because Boozer can't be amnestied until the summer.

     

    Also, your stretch provision proposal is garbage.

    No GM would stretch a contract with only 1 year remaining.

    Stretch a 1 year contract?

    You're really not that bright when it comes to NBA basketball.

    HAHAHA

     

    But if you don't believe me, I'll just let you know about it when the time comes.

     
  15. You have chosen to ignore posts from Mployee8. Show Mployee8's posts

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    In response to Fiercy's comment:
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    In response to Mployee8's comment:

    [QUOTE]

     

     

    You needed to post the rule so you can see it in black & white?  I already know the rule. Boozer would pass thru waivers cuz nobody will pick up his contract. Then he goes into bidding. I used an arbitrary figure for a winning bid. And who can say how much an under the cap team (Suns for example) are willing to bid for some veteran leadership. Whether it's $5MM or $8MM that's not even the point!

    You said the Bulls had to eat Boozer's $16MM contract if amnestied and that's just simply INCORRECT. Whatever the winning bidder pays will come off the Bulls contractual obligation. And you didn't even address the possible use of the stretch provision if untradeable and waived ...

    Bottom line ... WRONG AGAIN!!!

     

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    You're the one who's wrong, Mployee.

     

    It's simple, right now you don't know which teams will be under the cap because Boozer can't be amnestied until the summer.

     

    Also, your stretch provision proposal is garbage.

    No GM would stretch a contract with only 1 year remaining.

    Stretch a 1 year contract?

    You're really not that bright when it comes to NBA basketball.

    HAHAHA

     

    But if you don't believe me, I'll just let you know about it when the time comes.

    [/QUOTE]


    Don't worry ... I'll point it out every time you get the rules wrong and then you can move the goal posts again ... We all expect it now ... Hahaha!!!!

     
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    In response to Mployee8's comment:

     

    Don't worry ... I'll point it out every time you get the rules wrong and then you can move the goal posts again ... We all expect it now ... Hahaha!!!!



    How about a friendly bet regarding if the Bulls stretch Boozer's contract.

    We don't have to stop posting here because I know you won't survive if you can't post here for 2 days.

     

    If Boozer's contract gets stretched, I admit to being wrong.

    But if Boozer's contract doesn't get stretched, you admit to being wrong.

    How about it?

    Deal?

     
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    In response to Fiercy's comment:
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    In response to BostonTrollSpanker's comment:

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    The Bulls would never take Wallace - ever! They are trying to clear cap room and tank. This is crazy.

     

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    Thibs will never play along with tanking.

     

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    Doesn't matter what Thibs will play along with.  Management is doing the tanking for him.

     
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    In response to OneOnOne's comment:

     

    Doesn't matter what Thibs will play along with.  Management is doing the tanking for him.



    Trade deadline is next month.

    We'll see.

     
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    I'll believe the Bulls are tanking if they trade Noah.

     

    Even without Rose, as long as the Bulls have Noah, Gibson, and Boozer, they won't be bad enough to be able to tank.

     

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