Re: Celtics are too old is getting too old
posted at 9/13/2010 3:18 PM EDT
In Response to Re: Celtics are too old is getting too old
[QUOTE]Before I start I wanted to say that as much as I dislike the Lakers, I am a fan of basketball, and was truly impressed & did root for Bynum in the FIBA world championship game yesterday as next to Durant's 28 he was the highest scorer with 15 but more than that his overall play was tremendously beneficial in the USA victory. So that I don't get any scathing comments from some Laker Trolls, I make the following disclaimer that I do not consider the same athleticism necessary in Basketball to be required in some of the following sports I mention below, Football (Punter), Baseball (Pitching) and Golf. But regarding age, I feel on a "Quid Pro Quo' basis, that many times a compensating factor for youth, agility, endurance etc. is the ability for an athlete to maintain one's physical capacity with increased training beyond the 30's and that even with a physical advantage with youth, the experience that comes with age can even the playing field. I'm a senior and remember some 40-50 years ago the saying that arriving at age 40 one becomes over-the-hill. I feel that that comment because of improvements in medicine & the desire for many to stay in shape can be increased by 10 years to say 50 years old, which for some can be the 1/2 way point in life. The Celtics have a deep team and not too many need play a whole game & with the quality of the backups, I do not see our team suffering a quality loss when we substitute fresh players frequently. In short, I do not feel age will be a limiting factor in our performance this coming season. There are many more but I cite a few below so you get the idea. I have copied some of the following from different websites for your edification. Hitting 32 years of age constitutes the twilight for the majority of athletes. Most competitors peak in their mid to late twenties, with only a few maintaining a high level of performance into their thirties. However, some athletes defy the calendar and continue to make an impact well into a time in their lives when most people consider them "over the hill." For those incredible athletes whose determination, skill, and genetic gifts allow them to compete at the top level into their late thirties and even into their forties, age is merely a state of mind. Here's some who have tapped the fountain of youth and proved skeptics wrong by thriving among athletes young enough to be their offspring. --- BASKETBALL : Abdul-Jabbar retired from pro basketball at age 42. At the time he held the record for most games played in the NBA & won two NBA championships in his 40's , but fellow aged big man Robert Parish eclipsed that mark following his final game in 1997 at age 43. Basketball has seen its share of "over the hill" players continue with effective careers into their forties. Besides Abdul-Jabbar and Parish, the most notable examples are ten-time NBA all-star John Stockton and two-time NBA MVP Karl Malone, both of whom excelled as members of the Utah Jazz before retiring in their early forties. --- FOOTBALL : Jerry Rice holds virtually every major receiving record there is to hold in addition to multi-position records like most touchdowns and most yards from scrimmage. Almost as remarkable as the number of records Rice holds is the fact that he played in the NFL until the age of 42. To have thrived at his position in as punishing a sport as football for that long is nearly unheard of. Brett Favre gives Rice a run for his money as the 40-year-old quarterback enters his 20th NFL season in 2010. Favre has had incredible success and remains an effective player in football's most important position into his third decade tossing the pigskin. George Blanda was a multi-position sensation into his forties and holds a football record for having played in four decades - the '40s, '50s, '60s, and '70s. Still more unusual by today's standards is the fact that Blanda acted as both quarterback and kicker for nearly every team he played on. Blanda holds the record for being the oldest player ever to compete in the NFL, which he did as a 48-year-old. He was also the first player to score 2,000 points, often throwing a touchdown and then kicking his own extra point. Jeff Feagles, punter, comes close to Blanda's gridiron longevity, having debuted in 1988 and having played last in 2009 at the age of 44. Feagles didn't miss a game in 22 consecutive seasons. Morten Andersen, kicker, enjoyed a career that began in 1982 and ended in 2007, when he was 47. Andersen holds the NFL record for most games played with 382. --- BASEBALL : Nolan Ryan's name is synonymous with longevity and played pro ball from 1966 until his retirement in 1993 at age 46. Ryan was an eight-time all-star and a World Series champion. He played for the New York Mets, California Angels, Houston Astros, and Texas Rangers, the latter three of which have retired his jersey. He had a record seven no-hitters and 5,714 career strike outs. Pitching has been the domain of a few other 40+ baseball stars, including Randy Johnson, Jamie Moyer, and Phil Niekro, all of whom are or were forces to be reckoned with long after most of their contemporaries had left the game. Satchel Paige overcame racism to excel in the Major as he began his professional baseball career in the Negro leagues the year he turned 20. Following integration, Paige entered Major League Baseball as a pitcher for the Cleveland Indians in 1948. He was a 42-year-old rookie, at the time the oldest player to debut in the Majors. Paige went on to become an all-star with the St. Louis Browns. Roger Clemens and Barry Bonds are other baseball players who had extended careers, but their fountain of youth appears to have had as much to do with performance enhancing drugs as it has with their determination, skill, and genetics. Despite their considerable talent and longevity, their performance are tainted abit by use of drugs. --- BOXING : George Foreman won the world title at 45 years old and became the oldest heavyweight champion of the world when he knocked out 26-year-old Michael Moorer. It was an incredible accomplishment in a career that included a world title 20 years earlier, as well as an Olympic gold medal in men's boxing at the 1968 Summer Games. Foreman fought his last match in November 1997 at age 48. He lost a controversial split decision to Shannon Briggs, which cost him a title shot. Shortly thereafter, with an official record of 76-5, Foreman announced his retirement, the second and final one of his career. Boxing requires one of the most grueling training camps in sports, so for any fighter to be competing at a high level past the age of 40 is remarkable. Bernard Hopkins is one other notable pugilist who persisted in pummeling opponents when he had grown long in the tooth. Hopkins is still fighting at age 45, and, more remarkably, is still relevant in the boxing world. --- SWIMMING : Dara Torres competed in five Olympics from 1984 to 2008 and has a remarkable story that includes 12 Olympic medals. But still more amazing is that three of those medals came at age 41, in her fifth Olympics, the 2008 Summer Games from Beijing. She did not compete in 1996 or 2004, making her medal count in 2008 even more impressive. Torres is the picture of determination and dedication. --- TENNIS : Martina Navratilova turned pro in 1975 and won her first singles Grand Slam at Wimbledon in 1978. She retired in 2006 just a month shy of her 50th birthday, but not before winning the mixed doubles title at the 2006 US Open, her 59th Grand Slam title. --- Martial Arts : Randy Couture is pushing 50 and still taking on all comers. Some call him "Captain America," some call him "The Natural," but everyone calls him amazing.Couture got started in mixed martial arts in his thirties, after a distinguished Greco-Roman wrestling career that saw him earn multiple Pan-Am medals. Including his MMA debut at UFC 13 in 1997, he's had 29 fights, winning 19 of them. Couture's most recent win came at age 47 in August 2010 when he defeated 42-year-old boxing legend James Toney by submission in a one-sided affair. Couture shows no signs of slowing down, and will be back in the octagon a few more times before he hangs up the gloves for good. --- HOCKEY : Gordie Howe has done it all. Gordie Howe's nickname of "Mr. Hockey" is the most apt moniker in the history of sports. Howe started his NHL career at age 18 in 1946. He retired at age 52 in 1980, the only player to have competed in five decades. He played a full 80-game season in his final year. A record holder for both most NHL regular season games played with 1,767 and most professional games played with 2,186 (his WHA and NHL totals combined), Howe has earned every accolade there is to earn in hockey. Among those are four Stanley Cups, six Hart Trophies as NHL MVP, and an incredible 23 NHL All-Star appearances. His name still pops up in games from time to time when a player records a "Gordie Howe Hat Trick" - a goal, an assist, and a fight in the same game. The term is a tribute to the legendary player who was both one of the most talented and one of the toughest players ever to lace up a pair of skates. The second oldest NHLer was defenseman Chris Chelios, who retired in 2010 at age 48. He was a member of the Detroit Red Wings, Chicago Blackhawks, and Montreal Canadiens, and remained a sought after blueliner until his final game. Chelios appeared in the playoffs a record 24 times, all but two of his 26 NHL seasons. --- GOLF : Jack Nicklaus, the Golden Bear, is the greatest golfer of all and was a force to be reckoned with on the PGA Tour for the better part of three decades. Jack Nicklaus holds the record for the oldest player to win the Masters, which he did in 1986 at age 46. That big win extended his record for most major championships to 18, a record that still stands. "The Golden Bear" also racked up 73 PGA Tour wins in his career, a number surpassed only by fellow legend Sam Snead. Never one to say die, Nicklaus continued competing in PGA events until the age of 65, when he played in both the Masters and The Open Championship. Fellow golf superstar Tom Watson might have made this list if he had pulled off a victory at the 2009 Open Championship. Instead, the 59-year-old Watson lost in a playoff, finishing second and thereby missing out on the chance to claim Nicklaus's record as the oldest player to win a major. Die heart fan as I am, now that the SOX are out, I do enjoy the PATRIOT'S & believe they'll be in the playoffs but I really can't wait for the CELTICS !!!
Posted by mandobello[/QUOTE]
Great post, but it was Odom, not Bynum. I did wish him well in that game, he was not wearing the hideous purple and yellow.....anyone who wears Red, White and Blue needs our support........................but I think Durant and four stiffs could have beaten anyone, the kid is a beast!