Celtics - Lakers trade proposal 2014

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    Thats going to happen, right.  Our rejects for someone elses  somewhat better rejects

     
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    There is ZERO chance of the Celtics getting anyone to take Hump/Bogans in exchange for a pick in the top 15 of this loaded draft just to save money in 2015. The Clippers awfully run franchise being the rarest of the rare circumstances. That trade in a VERY weak draft wasn't the issue, the protection not being at least top 5 (top 10 more realistic) was the issue. Idiocy.

    Danny is desperate for summer of 2015 cap space. It is far more likely we dump one of our two picks in this draft or next year in order to free ourselves of Wallace and Lee, than it would be for us to add picks.

    The only move of the type you are suggesting would be something like Amare Stoudamire, Artest, Bargnani and a '14 top 12 protected 1st from NY for Hump, Wallace, Bass, Lee and Bogans.

    That would be the kind of move that would give NY, once Chandler returns and they are back in the playoff hunt, four high character role players who fit around their other 6 rotations guys (Felton, Shump, Smith, Melo, Chandler and Prigioni) way better than the guys they are dumping. It might give Melo reason to sign for the max.

    Boston would save 3m this year and 17 million in 2015-16 at the expense of an additional 15 or so million next year (clearly a $ move Ainge would leap at) and add an additional pick in the 18-24 range this year. If we are a borderline playoff team at the time of this trade, adding those individuals NOBODY enjoys playing with should accelerate the desired tank job to land us in the top 10. 

     

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    The Knicks don't have a 2014 1st round pick.

     

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    So your idea of getting a 1st rd pick for expiring contracts is even less realistic

     
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    So your idea of getting a 1st rd pick for expiring contracts is even less realistic

     

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    On the contrary, the Chicago Bulls might want to get rid of Carlos Boozer so that they won't have to pay him 16.8m next season.

     

    The Celts and Bulls could do a Humpy and Bogans for Boozer and the Bulls' 1st round pick in 2014, unprotected of course, trade.

     

    There are teams out there with bad contracts that might want to dump those bad contracts for expiring contracts.

    Just like Brooklyn dumped Gerald Wallace on the Celtics.

     

    And come on, that's why I always win in our debates because you don't do due diligence.

    I mean you didn't even know the Knicks didn't have a 1st round pick.

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    Not very realistic at all.

    The Bulls can just amnesty Boozer over paying MORE for Hump/Bogans this year and giving up a GREAT draft pick that will likely be in the teens to save paying him next year, when they (as you know) plan to be contenders and could use him.

    FAIL

     
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    Not very realistic at all.

    The Bulls can just amnesty Boozer over paying MORE for Hump/Bogans this year and giving up a GREAT draft pick that will likely be in the teens to save paying him next year, when they (as you know) plan to be contenders and could use him.

    FAIL

     

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    Wow!

     

    I can't believe it!

    You're more stupid now than you were last season!

     

    Boozer will be paid 15.3m this season.

    Humpy and Bogans will be paid 17.058m this season.

     

    If the Bulls amnesty Boozer, they'd still pay him his 16.8m for next season.

    But if the Bulls deal Boozer for Humpy and Bogans, the Bulls will be paying ZERO for Humpy and Bogans next season because their contracts are expiring!

     

    You really think by amnestying Boozer the Bulls don't need to pay Boozer's salary next season?

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    Not at all you ignorant CHILD. Man reading comprehension is NOT a skill of yours at all. I obviously meant paying him a salalry that was on the books and affecting the cap.

    Giving up a 1st round pick in the teens is a HUGE BLOW when the amnesty option is there. A team already way over the cap would NOT want to take on 2m this year PLUS the added lux tax implications to save a billionaire owner from paying Boozer off the books next year at the cost of a draft pick/player who could be a future star.

    Man you are a fool. Learn how front offices think. Obviously they still 'pay' an amnestied player. 

     
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    Yeah but hes cheap right?

     
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    multiple millions. snide, snark fail

     
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    "This would give us a starting five of :

    Rondo-Bradley-Young-P.Gasol-M.Gasol.

    Top reserves- Pressey-Brooks-Henry-Bass-Sullinger"

     

    OK, light it up poppy!!!! 

     

     
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    "Our rejects for someone elses  somewhat better rejects"

    true...but Marc is not a reject, he's an all star, which makes this even sillier.

     
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    "This would give us a starting five of :

    Rondo-Bradley-Young-P.Gasol-M.Gasol.

    Top reserves- Pressey-Brooks-Henry-Bass-Sullinger"

     

    OK, light it up poppy!!!! 

     

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    I have a novel idea...why not stand pat and do NOTHING....let's see what others offer us as the trade deadline approaches...HMMM?...puts us in the drivers seat.....the price goes up for our talent, or we sit right where we are, because we stink but we play hard...whatever we do, just don't panic...there are many other GM's about to lose their jobs (look at the losing records of suppossedly good teams)...let THEM make a panic move...

     
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    Re: Celtics - Lakers trade proposal 2014

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    Playoff teams will also want Bass or Lee, maybe both.

    While Asik for Lee, Bass, and a 1st rounder is a bargain, if you're the Celtics, it's too good to be true!

    Unless Houston change their mind and accept the Celts offer, tanking offcially starts after the trade deadline.



    I agree with you on this...if DA makes a trade the only thing he's doing is making us better for DOWN THE ROAD...he's not thinking about winning a championship THIS year...does that mean he's tanking? OF COURSE NOT...the Celtics are a business that needs to be successful in the long run to maintain tv and radio deals, as well as sell out the barn....he's either accummulating assets through a trade or trades and draft picks...HE probably doesn't really know what he's going to do until the right deal or deals come along...many, many moving parts in motion at the same time and he only controls ours and the contracts and players on hand at any particular time...One thing he won't do is react to every rumor of who's available and why we should get them...have faith that he knows his business...I do...

     

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