Celtics Will Go As Far As Rondo and Garnett's Knee Can Take Them Next Season....

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    KG is had it. An old man with too many miles on him. His rebounding is poor, finals stats show that, and he got totally outplayed by the Spaniard.

    Rondo has game but his shot is unlikely to improve. The mechanics are wrong and he certainly is no natural. Other teams saw how to play him after what the Lakers did, he'll certainly find it harder in the playoffs.

    Ray has had it, enough said. Pierce got beaten up by Ron and now that Artest has a championship swagger to him, it's over for "the worlds greatest player" (lmao).

    It's a shame we wont play the celts when we win #17 cause I'd like nothing better. However, everyone outside of New England knows it's a Lakers/Heat Finals.
     
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    The Lakers are going to have a much harder time coming out of the West next season than the Celtics.  Celtics have to beat a great Heat team and a very good Magic team, and a good Bulls team, other than that, the East is pretty weak.  

    The Lakers are going to have to deal with Oklahoma City, with Durant who is a superstar and his young talented team, as well as the Spurs who should still be a handful with a healthy Parker, Duncan, and Ginobli, also the Mavericks will be a very solid team as well.  Plus the Nuggets will do everything they can to win next season (considering Melo will jump ship to New York next year) so they'll will likely pull out that big mid-season trade, and don't count out the rising Portland Trailblazers, a young talented team.  

    The Lakers also have age and health concerns.   Artest will be 31 in November and he will have to stay motivated.  Kobe will be 32 years old and has more wear and tear on his body than any player his age.  Gasol, Odom, Fisher, Walton, and Ratliff, Matt Barnes, are all 30 and older, so the Lakers are far from a young team, with a much more questionable bench than the Celtics, so they have to stay healthy as well, which will be tough in a much deeper Western Division.

     
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    Only the Thunder are a threat. We own Denver, enough said. Dallas have proved they can't win it all, easy. Spurs are too old with their key players. Duncan has been great but his time has gone. Portland lack the experience in big games.

    Your right about the east, 3-4 good teams but the rest are trash. In the west last year you had to win 50 games to make the playoffs. In the east, lets say you could be mediocre and make it.

    The west has been deep for over 10 years hence they have dominated the championships. Long may that continue.
     
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    [QUOTE]The Lakers are going to have a much harder time coming out of the West next season than the Celtics.  Celtics have to beat a great Heat team and a very good Magic team, and a good Bulls team, other than that, the East is pretty weak.   The Lakers are going to have to deal with Oklahoma City, with Durant who is a superstar and his young talented team, as well as the Spurs who should still be a handful with a healthy Parker, Duncan, and Ginobli, also the Mavericks will be a very solid team as well.  Plus the Nuggets will do everything they can to win next season (considering Melo will jump ship to New York next year) so they'll will likely pull out that big mid-season trade, and don't count out the rising Portland Trailblazers, a young talented team.   The Lakers also have age and health concerns.   Artest will be 31 in November and he will have to stay motivated.  Kobe will be 32 years old and has more wear and tear on his body than any player his age.  Gasol, Odom, Fisher, Walton, and Ratliff, Matt Barnes, are all 30 and older, so the Lakers are far from a young team, with a much more questionable bench than the Celtics, so they have to stay healthy as well, which will be tough in a much deeper Western Division.
    Posted by DuncanOrange[/QUOTE]

    Don't sleep on Houston if Yao is healthy or Utah now that they have Big Al
     
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    Utah lmao. Can you say sweep?!
     
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    The Celtics are a much deeper team going into next season than the Lakers.   If Kobe goes down (Lakers are fighting to make the playoffs in the West) that shows two things, how important Kobe is but also how shaky the depth on Lakers is.     If Garnett, Pierce, Rondo, Allen, go down, the Celtics will still be a tough team.   Yes Kobe is better than any player on the Celtics roster, from a scale to 1 - 100, Kobe is 100.  Our best player is about 88-92.    But the Celtics roster is deep.    

    Good luck if Kobe does down, counting on Odom, Artest, and Gasol to be leaders.
     
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    Agreed Utah sweeps.

     
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    Garnett goes down, you won't go past 1st round. Celts are an old team, experienced yes, but very old.

    The others don't get you into the Finals never mind a championship. But I dont go on IFS, too much of that here.
     
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    Bryant doesn't even need to go down he was looking VERY old in the Finals.

     
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    [QUOTE]The Celtics are a much deeper team going into next season than the Lakers.   If Kobe goes down (Lakers are fighting to make the playoffs in the West) that shows two things, how important Kobe is but also how shaky the depth on Lakers is.     If Garnett, Pierce, Rondo, Allen, go down, the Celtics will still be a tough team.   Yes Kobe is better than any player on the Celtics roster, from a scale to 1 - 100, Kobe is 100.  Our best player is about 88-92.    But the Celtics roster is deep.     Good luck if Kobe does down, counting on Odom, Artest, and Gasol to be leaders.
    Posted by DuncanOrange[/QUOTE]


    Which is why we need a Battier or a Posey.  That way, with even a major injury, we will be able to overcome.  We have the deepest team in the league!
     
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    Enough of this what if B.S. No ones knows what can heppen during a season, its ludacrious to sit here and contemplate over it.
     
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    [QUOTE]Bryant doesn't even need to go down he was looking VERY old in the Finals.
    Posted by croc[/QUOTE]

    20+ points, 15 rebounds, negated Rondo's influence, 5 championships and 2Finals MVPS all by game 7. Yip, that sounds old to me lol.
     
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    Bryant was not a dominant player in the Finals.  Yes he was good.  Yes he can be dominant for extended periods of time.  But he's not the coast to coast dominant player he once was. Negated Rondo, great.  Who's going up?  Who's not?

     There's some mileage and it's catching up.  ...Barnes was a very good acq.

    BTW before Perk went down Gasol was showing signs of wear and tear too.
     
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    If KG is back to playing on two good knees, then one of the answers for back up wing can be KG himself. When healthy he can play all five positions and with his length still deny (ie block) shots from speedy, strong wings (ie LeBron) from behind. Why KG? Well, with the depth up front (the deuce O'Neils, Baby, Perk and Harangady) even befor Perk gets back that's 24 minutes per player for the 4 and 5 (excluding Harangady). Except for Shaq, the other three (KG, Baby, JO) are 30 minute capable types...Here's the math...Shaq plays 20 minutes at 5, JO 28 at 5, KG plays 18 at 4, Baby plays 30 at 4, KG plays 12 at 3...just a thought that at least on some 3s, KG might be able to give some good quality man defense given the depth up front.
    Also, on big/strong 3s (Artest), why not use Baby; Artest is slow and tough, Baby is actually quick on his feet and strong...
     
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    I think the only threat for LA next season are the thunder, unfortunately. All the others just don't have what it takes (anymore).
     
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    [QUOTE]I think the only threat for LA next season are the thunder, unfortunately. All the others just don't have what it takes (anymore).
    Posted by basketbert[/QUOTE]

    Dont sleep on Portland!!! You never know how the ball will bounce this coming season. I cant worry about the FAKERS, we have young teams like the Bucks, Bulls, Bobcats that will be breathing down our necks. Miami/ATL/Orlando will beat each other up and Milwaukee and Chicago will do the same.  Knicks and Nets will not be a threat in the Atlantic.  Celtics should finish with t least a number two seed once the dust settles.
     
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    "Kobe how does my A $ $ taste?"

    On the surface, this tread seems pretty obvious.  Without either KG or Rondo, the Celtics are not as good.  But can't the same be said for any two best players on any NBA team?

    However the addition of Shaq gives the Celtics an unique look.  KG can play down low or hit the outside shot.  If he plays like he did the 2nd half of last season, he'll be effective.  Now when he's not in the game, Shaq can wear big men out.  That's a lot of human to push around.  After sucking the life out of the defense, KG can come back in and explode.  

    Perkins coming back in the 2nd half means that as the games get more important, their defense would be improving.  It may not look pretty and they may not grab all the headlines but I wouldn't want to face this team in a playoff series!! 
     
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    [QUOTE]The Lakers are going to have a much harder time coming out of the West next season than the Celtics.  Celtics have to beat a great Heat team and a very good Magic team, and a good Bulls team, other than that, the East is pretty weak.   The Lakers are going to have to deal with Oklahoma City, with Durant who is a superstar and his young talented team, as well as the Spurs who should still be a handful with a healthy Parker, Duncan, and Ginobli, also the Mavericks will be a very solid team as well.  Plus the Nuggets will do everything they can to win next season (considering Melo will jump ship to New York next year) so they'll will likely pull out that big mid-season trade, and don't count out the rising Portland Trailblazers, a young talented team.   The Lakers also have age and health concerns.   Artest will be 31 in November and he will have to stay motivated.  Kobe will be 32 years old and has more wear and tear on his body than any player his age.  Gasol, Odom, Fisher, Walton, and Ratliff, Matt Barnes, are all 30 and older, so the Lakers are far from a young team, with a much more questionable bench than the Celtics, so they have to stay healthy as well, which will be tough in a much deeper Western Division.
    Posted by DuncanOrange[/QUOTE]
    That's almost exactly what they said before the playoffs this last year, that the Lakers would have a too tough of a time handling the other West teams and they would not survive. Be honest now, what team would you rather have?
     
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    Sigh.

    How many times are we going to have to read this completly untrue "Kobe negated Rondo" crap?  Rondo came within two rebounds of having TWO triple doubles in the LA series.  His per game overall production was down only one-tenth of a point from his regular season ALL-STAR production.

    Some "negating"!
     
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    [QUOTE]Sigh. How many times are we going to have to read this completly untrue "Kobe negated Rondo" crap?  Rondo came within two rebounds of having TWO triple doubles in the LA series.  His per game overall production was down only one-tenth of a point from his regular season ALL-STAR production. Some "negating"!
    Posted by jerrycole[/QUOTE]

    Rondo had a far bigger influence in the east playoffs than he did in the Finals. Kobe dared him to shoot or drive the lane against our bigs throughout the series in half court sets and for the majority he couldn't do much. Rondo is certainly dangerous in the open court with his speed however his free throw shooting was pathetic and his mid-long range shot is, well, an eye sore at best.

    Kobe did negate his strength at the crucial times (and for long periods) but then again KB24 is a 1st team defensive player and we don't expect anything else. I've said it here before, Rondo's mechanics on his long shot is wrong. He can work on forever as far as I'm concerned but if the basics are wrong, he won't improve.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Celtics Will Go As Far As Rondo and Garnett's Knee Can Take Them Next Season.... : Rondo had a far bigger influence in the east playoffs than he did in the Finals. Kobe dared him to shoot or drive the lane against our bigs throughout the series in half court sets and for the majority he couldn't do much. Rondo is certainly dangerous in the open court with his speed however his free throw shooting was pathetic and his mid-long range shot is, well, an eye sore at best. Kobe did negate his strength at the crucial times (and for long periods) but then again KB24 is a 1st team defensive player and we don't expect anything else. I've said it here before, Rondo's mechanics on his long shot is wrong. He can work on forever as far as I'm concerned but if the basics are wrong, he won't improve.
    Posted by KB24RULZ[/QUOTE]

    I'm sure he'll take your advice and work on his shot!
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Celtics Will Go As Far As Rondo and Garnett's Knee Can Take Them Next Season.... : Point well taken, but Rondo did average 14.8 ppg against Miami, 20.7 ppg against Cleveland, and 14.3 ppg against Orlando in the playoffs. To then only get 13.6 ppg against the Lakers does imply that Kobe did some negating. Not totally crap. His rebounds held up against the Lakers, but his APG were down in comparison to the other series. And, the image of Kobe playing way off Rondo daring him to shoot remains strong. I think that that is the basis.
    Posted by ControllerMod[/QUOTE]

    Unfortunately Kobe was busy shutting down other Celtic scorers while his man, lonesome Rondo, was busy shutting himself down in the half court sets. 

    Given how many wide open looks Rondo had and didn't take, he should have been torching the Lakers with 30 point performances, one after another... after another.

    Pud


     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Celtics Will Go As Far As Rondo and Garnett's Knee Can Take Them Next Season.... : Point well taken, but Rondo did average 14.8 ppg against Miami, 20.7 ppg against Cleveland, and 14.3 ppg against Orlando in the playoffs. To then only get 13.6 ppg against the Lakers does imply that Kobe did some negating. Not totally crap. His rebounds held up against the Lakers, but his APG were down in comparison to the other series. And, the image of Kobe playing way off Rondo daring him to shoot remains strong. I think that that is the basis.
    Posted by ControllerMod[/QUOTE]

    AH - overall the TEAM didn't score as much, so his scoring and assist numbers would be down.  koME must have expended a lot of energy on D, what with going 6-24 in that Game 7 himself.  Who else would continue to shoot, being that off?
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Celtics Will Go As Far As Rondo and Garnett's Knee Can Take Them Next Season.... : AH - overall the TEAM didn't score as much, so his scoring and assist numbers would be down.  koME must have expended a lot of energy on D, what with going 6-24 in that Game 7 himself.  Who else would continue to shoot, being that off?
    Posted by BirdandCowens[/QUOTE]

    KB24 had 15 rebounds game 7, tell me how many did Garnett get game 7? Kobe took Rondo out as a major factor for you guys and got crucial rebounds especially down the stretch. I'll have Kobe shoot all day over Rondo staring like a deer in the night at headlights.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Celtics Will Go As Far As Rondo and Garnett's Knee Can Take Them Next Season.... : KB24 had 15 rebounds game 7, tell me how many did Garnett get game 7? Kobe took Rondo out as a major factor for you guys and got crucial rebounds especially down the stretch. I'll have Kobe shoot all day over Rondo staring like a deer in the night at headlights.
    Posted by KB24RULZ[/QUOTE]

    You do that!
     

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