Could Faverani hit these numbers?

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    Re: Could Faverani hit these numbers?

    In response to PHX85014's comment:
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    I don't believe FAV is a career backup , give him 28-30 minutes and he easily meets the "Mr Average" numbers originally posted by WicksAndRowe (good thread !) , something not even Perk ever accomplished for more than 2 weeks in his whole career

    I also think Stevens has been holding FAV back to showcase Hump, Bass, Wallace for trade , just not enough minutes for everyone.

    AND ONE MORE TIME: NO TALK, NO CONSIDERATION OF ANY ROOKIE INVOLVED IN ANY TRADE ! NO TRADE TALK W/ OLYNYK OR FAV, OR PRESSEY AS  PROHIBITED BY CLUB POLICY !

    NOW LET'S  SEE THESE YOUNG BUCKS WITH RONDO !!!

    [/QUOTE]

    Time will tell...

     
  2. You have chosen to ignore posts from Fiercy. Show Fiercy's posts

    Re: Could Faverani hit these numbers?

    wozzy

    Time already told you what Faverani is.

    He's just a backup.

    That's what the majority here are saying, not just me.

     
  3. You have chosen to ignore posts from shines01. Show shines01's posts

    Re: Could Faverani hit these numbers?

    and we haven't seen Fav get  laser-guided passes from Rondo yet either....maybe he will perform at a higher level with a more skilled point guard

    no matter what anyone thinks abouot Rondo's imagined deficiencies, Jordan Crawford is in no way shape or form a 4 time all star point guard

     
  4. You have chosen to ignore posts from Fiercy. Show Fiercy's posts

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    In response to shines01's comment:

    and we haven't seen Fav get  laser-guided passes from Rondo yet either....maybe he will perform at a higher level with a more skilled point guard

    no matter what anyone thinks abouot Rondo's imagined deficiencies, Jordan Crawford is in no way shape or form a 4 time all star point guard



    Like I said, Fav is a good offensive player.

    His problem is his defense.

     

    If you watch Fav play defense, he doesn't defend the pick and roll well.

    He also doesn't know how to play defense in the low post.

    The Houston game exposed Fav's weakness on defense when Dwight Howard scored 8 points on him.

    Brad Stevens then had a brief talk with Fav when Fav was on his way to the bench after being replaced by Bass.

     

    Right now Kendrick Perkins is still a starter with OKC because Perk is very good on defense.

     

    We need a Center that can block shots and play defense.

    Fav is not the answer.

     

    Let's just put it this way, once Colton Iverson returns, he will be ahead of Fav on the depth chart.

     
  5. You have chosen to ignore posts from Fiercy. Show Fiercy's posts

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    Sure Rondo will get Fav some easy dunks.

    But what's the use of scoring when the opposing team will get the 2 points back because Fav allowed his man to score on the next play.

     
  6. You have chosen to ignore posts from shines01. Show shines01's posts

    Re: Could Faverani hit these numbers?

    Fierce:

    Dwight Howard exploits everyone.  totally bogus comparison-assessment.

    So the coach told him that Dwight was considered "very good" and "good effort" and "you got smoked by one of the best"....so what?

     
  7. You have chosen to ignore posts from Fiercy. Show Fiercy's posts

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    In response to shines01's comment:

    Fierce:

    Dwight Howard exploits everyone.  totally bogus comparison-assessment.



    Not just Dwight Howard.

    Against the Jazz, Fav also allowed Kanter to score 8 points on him.

    Here:

    http://espn.go.com/nba/playbyplay?gameId=400488937

     

    Just look at the little things, like how Fav plays pick and roll defense, or how Fav plays defense in the low post.

    There's no way Rondo can solve Fav's problems on defense.

     
  8. You have chosen to ignore posts from Fiercy. Show Fiercy's posts

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    In response to shines01's comment:

    Fierce:

    Dwight Howard exploits everyone.  totally bogus comparison-assessment.

    So the coach told him that Dwight was considered "very good" and "good effort" and "you got smoked by one of the best"....so what?



    If you don't believe me then just remember Fierce when Fav will no longer be a Celtic in the near future.

    Once Colton Iverson returns, he'll be ahead of Fav on the depth chart.

     
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    it's not that i don't believe you....but I just think there is a lot more going on than meets the eye.

    why are Iverson's and Shav Randolph's names coming up again?  what do you mean "return".  I was unaware the C's had Iverson on ice somewhere.  I thought he said "thank you" and went to Europe???

     
  10. You have chosen to ignore posts from Fiercy. Show Fiercy's posts

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    In response to shines01's comment:

    it's not that i don't believe you....but I just think there is a lot more going on than meets the eye.

    why are Iverson's and Shav Randolph's names coming up again?  what do you mean "return".  I was unaware the C's had Iverson on ice somewhere.  I thought he said "thank you" and went to Europe???



    The Celts have Colton Iverson's rights.

    So if Iverson returns to the NBA, it would be with the Celtics.

     

    I watched the majority of the Celtic games this season.

    From what I saw, every time Fav comes in, it's either he commits a foul, jacks up a 3, or he lets his man score on him.

     

    Brad Stevens is being lenient with Fav, not benching him like Bogans or Brooks.

    But every time Fav gets a chance to play, he always makes plays that forces Stevens to put Fav back on the bench. 

     
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    Re: Could Faverani hit these numbers?

    OK, by that rationale, why hasn't Iverson been asked to return?

     
  12. You have chosen to ignore posts from Fiercy. Show Fiercy's posts

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    OK, by that rationale, why hasn't Iverson been asked to return?



    Celts already had Fav and Fab at that time.

     

    Celts and Iverson's camp agreed that it was best if Iverson play overseas for this season.

    Iverson should be back next season.

     
  13. You have chosen to ignore posts from wozzy. Show wozzy's posts

    Re: Could Faverani hit these numbers?

    In response to Fiercy's comment:
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    If you don't believe me then just remember Fierce when Fav will no longer be a Celtic in the near future.

    Once Colton Iverson returns, he'll be ahead of Fav on the depth chart.

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    So Iverson is in Turkey but he is still a Celtic in your estimation, Babb is in Maine with the developmental squad and he is no longer part of the team?  Your hypocrisy knows no bounds... Feel free to look up hypocrisy in the dictionary and fire back at me.

     
  14. You have chosen to ignore posts from wozzy. Show wozzy's posts

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    Iverson was on the team in the preseason, so was Fav.  Fav is on the team now.  

    Last night we saw Olynyk respond to the introduction of Rondo and Pressey with his best night as a Pro yet, as soon as they jettison Bass and likely Hump you will see Fav get substantial minutes.

     
  15. You have chosen to ignore posts from Fiercy. Show Fiercy's posts

    Re: Could Faverani hit these numbers?

    In response to wozzy's comment:

     

    So Iverson is in Turkey but he is still a Celtic in your estimation, Babb is in Maine with the developmental squad and he is no longer part of the team?  Your hypocrisy knows no bounds... Feel free to look up hypocrisy in the dictionary and fire back at me.



    That's a stupid thing to say, wozzy.

     

    The Celtics have Iverson's rights because Iverson is a 2nd round pick of the Celtics.

     

    Chris Babb is an undrafted rookie.

     

    Get it now?

     

    You understand what undrafted means?

     
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    Re: Could Faverani hit these numbers?

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    That's a stupid thing to say, wozzy.

    The Celtics have Iverson's rights because Iverson is a 2nd round pick of the Celtics.

    Chris Babb is an undrafted rookie.

    Get it now? 

    You understand what undrafted means?

     



    The Celtics can recall Babb at a moment's notice, they retain his rights until someone else signs him.  He is a Celtic.

    "Double standard" is the term to describe your interpretation of this... feel free to look it up as well.

     
  17. You have chosen to ignore posts from Fiercy. Show Fiercy's posts

    Re: Could Faverani hit these numbers?

    In response to wozzy's comment:

     

    The Celtics can recall Babb at a moment's notice, they retain his rights until someone else signs him.  He is a Celtic.

    "Double standard" is the term to describe your interpretation of this... feel free to look it up as well.



    Nope!

    Any NBA team can sign Chris Babb.

    Just like the Celts signed Chris Johnson to a 10-day contract.

     

    The Celts needed another SG when Jordan Crawford and Marshon Brooks got traded.

    So why did the Celts sign Chris Johnson instead of Chris Babb? 

     
  18. You have chosen to ignore posts from Fiercy. Show Fiercy's posts

    Re: Could Faverani hit these numbers?

    wozzy

    It's not double standard.

    No other NBA team can sign Colton Iverson, only the Celtics.

    But other NBA teams can sign Chris Babb.

     

    See the difference?

     

    Get it now?

     
  19. You have chosen to ignore posts from Fiercy. Show Fiercy's posts

    Re: Could Faverani hit these numbers?

    In response to wozzy's comment:

    Just because he had 3 blocks, his opponent only scored 8 points and coach Stevens pointed out that the perimeter defenders for the Celtics were terrible allowing their guys to blow by them into the paint.

    He also said prior to the game "I think you saw in our last game, Faverani was one of our better defenders, period," Stevens said. "He has ability to protect the rim... Hopefully a guy like that can make up for a few of your mistakes on the perimeter."

    But I guess you know more than me and coach, why you aren't working for the C's with your vast storehouse of knowledge is beyond me.  

    By the way Babb is on the Maine roster, we should see him later in the season if he progresses and we clear cap space.



    wozzy

    We have cap space and Ainge chose Chris Johnson instead of Chris Babb.

    You were wrong about Chris Babb becoming a Celtic, right?

     
  20. You have chosen to ignore posts from wozzy. Show wozzy's posts

    Re: Could Faverani hit these numbers?

    In response to Fiercy's comment:
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    Constantly repeating yourself is a sure sign of ignorance, try to sum it up in a sentence if possible, we heard you the first time, there's really no need to post three responses to a single post.  But considering your posts are rife with unneeded spaces and grammatical errors I can tell your more concerned with rapid fire posting and less about quality or at least pretending to sound intelligent.

    The team didn't recall Iverson either, so I guess your wrong about him right?

    Chris Babb has admittedly regressed in Maine and struggled with his three point shooting, but since I said he was a project to begin with, I don't see the need to explain.  Chris Johnson was the best minor league plyer available from any team and since teams aren't limited to signing their own players Johnson was a good sign.

    Like everything else I am try to show you, I can explain it to you but I can't understand it for you.

     
  21. You have chosen to ignore posts from Fiercy. Show Fiercy's posts

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    In response to wozzy's comment:

    Constantly repeating yourself is a sure sign of ignorance, try to sum it up in a sentence if possible, we heard you the first time, there's really no need to post three responses to a single post.  But considering your posts are rife with unneeded spaces and grammatical errors I can tell your more concerned with rapid fire posting and less about quality or at least pretending to sound intelligent.

    The team didn't recall Iverson either, so I guess your wrong about him right?

    Chris Babb has admittedly regressed in Maine and struggled with his three point shooting, but since I said he was a project to begin with, I don't see the need to explain.  Chris Johnson was the best minor league plyer available from any team and since teams aren't limited to signing their own players Johnson was a good sign.

    Like everything else I am try to show you, I can explain it to you but I can't understand it for you.



    Nope!

    You never said Babb was a project.

    Don't worry, I'll show you the threads where it will prove that you're lying now.

     
  22. You have chosen to ignore posts from wozzy. Show wozzy's posts

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    In response to Fiercy's comment:
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    Nope!

    You never said Babb was a project.

    Don't worry, I'll show you the threads where it will prove that you're lying now.

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    In response to wozzy's comment:
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    http://boston.com/community/forums/sports/celtics/on-the-front-burner/asik-vs-faverani/100/6860166?page=3#post-21586198

    I clearly state in above thread that Babb might be sent to the D league to start the season.^

    But I'll post my quote here for you again:

    "Babb might very well be cut or sent down to the D League, he is a project player, but if he learns the intricacies on the NBA he could be a very good to great player one day, he could also make the opening day roster.  I don't claim to be the expert that you are."

     

    Tool

     
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    Re: Could Faverani hit these numbers?

    wozzy

     

    The evidence does not lie.

    Just because you flip-flopped, it doesn't mean what you said last Oct. 25, 2013 didn't exist.

    Here:

    Re: Team Cuts

    posted at 10/25/2013 9:41 AM EDT

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    But this can't be, our resident expert and soothsayer Fierce34 has said Babb is no good, absolutely won't make the team and that is the kiss of death...  then he followed it up with his patented "HAHAHA LOLOLOL" which is a sign of utter superiority and knowledge.

    Laughable.

    Baab will make this team and eventually be a player because he is big, strong, plays good defense and is the best three point shooter on our team and maybe beyond.

     
  24. You have chosen to ignore posts from Mployee8. Show Mployee8's posts

    Re: Could Faverani hit these numbers?

    Hey FIERCY .... Lookey here, your boy Fosberg agrees with Wozzy ... He thinks Fav is a keeper despite his poor grade and once the trade deadline is over Fav will get plenty of minutes to improve his game .... Hahaha, could FIERCY be WRONG AGAIN????? HAHAHA!!!!

     

    ON THE BUS

     

    These players appear to be part of Boston's long-term future given their performance, age and contract status:

     

    Vitor Faverani: His 12-point, 18-rebound, 6-block effort in Boston's home opener seems another lifetime ago. Faverani started fast and came screaming back to earth. Boston's crowded frontcourt and his own inconsistent defense have limited his playing time. The deadline could open up a greater opportunity for the 25-year-old Brazilian big man, who might just need more minutes to find his way again. The Celtics have him under their control at low money ($2.1 million next season) moving forward. [First-half grade: C-]

     

    http://espn.go.com/boston/story/_/id/10324386/grading-boston-celtics-midseason

     

    FIERCY couldn't be more wrong than anybody on the BDC Boards the last ten years ... This story blows out his Oly is Dirk, Sully & Oly will not be traded (C's for many yrs to come???) and Tankapalooza player dump in favor of a team full of draftees.

     

    Like I said ... Always bet against FIERCY predictions ... Money in the Bank!!!

     
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    Re: Could Faverani hit these numbers?

    In response to Fiercy's comment:
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    Sure Rondo will get Fav some easy dunks.

    But what's the use of scoring when the opposing team will get the 2 points back because Fav allowed his man to score on the next play.

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    True and will Fav step up in the lane to attempt to defend Rondo's man when Rondo playa his matador defense? They may make a good offense but, defensively, they'll be a liability. Rondo has proved he can play good defense when he wants to give the effort. Fav has not.  

     

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