Danny's gamble

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    Danny's gamble

    Ian Thomsen  of SI wrote an interesting article about the league transition to balance from defensive orientation due to 2002 rule changes. It is worth reading.

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/ian_thomsen/03/04/sixth.man/index.html
     
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    He got a stud in  Green that can do a lot and has youth, size, and ability , plus a Center that is a good all around player and can stretch the defense.  When you watch Rondo, last night, miss a jumper and two layups in the last few minutes, you may just be thankful that Rondo and Perk are not on the court at the same time, not thankful that Perk is gone because a defensive presence went with him that is not prestent at this time.  He got a first round choice from a weak team that is protected if it is a top ten pick.  He picked up Troy Murphy who let the NBA one year in precentage of defensive rebounds and has had several good years , one at 15 points per game, and he picked up a big three that can defend and shoot and has a bundle of playoff experience, and he did all of this wihtout getting old wore out players.  Yes we are better and will be better, the only mistake Danny made was letting Luke go.
     
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    M & G -Very even handed.

    Sports writers and posters on this board are all over the map in response to the trades. I think that Thomsen is also the most even handed writer that I have read on the subject. Ex coach and Celtic hater, Charlie Rosen, hated the deals, and others have proclaimed that every one else is now playing for second place.

    Reality is probably somewhere in between. Thomsen does a good job.
     
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    In Response to Danny's gamble:
    [QUOTE]Ian Thomsen  of SI wrote an interesting article about the league transition to balance from defensive orientation due to 2002 rule changes. It is worth reading. http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/ian_thomsen/03/04/sixth.man/index.html
    Posted by Jump-ball-overtime[/QUOTE]

    Very interesting article.  Thanks for posting it. 
     
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    which we can revisit the previous thread.... http://tinyurl.com/5vzm8n9

    I also quote on the similar thread that I will take a balance team vs an offensive/defensive specialist team.


    ...unless of course if Ortiz read the article first before he made the post.




     
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    A very well written article and a few mild sour grapes from Perkins. I'm a fan of Perkins, but only time will tell if he can function well on another team without the allstar players the Celtics surrounded him with. I wish Perk the best.  

    The one thing surprisingly not mentioned by Thomsen is the large downside to Perks overall game, which on the wrong team could mean he'll be an over paid bench player.  As much as many loved Perks defensive game he was immobile, with hands of stone and was a liability on offense, but again on the right team he could still blend in well.

    Hetchinspete.   
     
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    So do you think it was Doc or Danny that was the driving force for the trades?
     
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    In Response to Danny's gamble:
    [QUOTE]Ian Thomsen  of SI wrote an interesting article about the league transition to balance from defensive orientation due to 2002 rule changes. It is worth reading. http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/ian_thomsen/03/04/sixth.man/index.html
    Posted by Jump-ball-overtime[/QUOTE]

    good article

    I liked how at the bottom he listed the rookie of the years from each draft last 20 years and who the best player(s) ended up being...

    He mentioned that Vince Carter was ROY in '98 but Pierce and Dirk tied for best player

    He mentioned Brandon Roy winning ROY in '06 but put down Rondo as the best player. Not tied w/ Aldridge, Roy or Gay... but alone as the BEST... and yet we still have clowns here who rip the kid

    The National unbiased media praises our PG while 'fans' of this team still rant ignorance on him
     
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    That was interesting wasn't it.

    I have to admit that in 2008 I swore at Rondo a lot, but now that he knows who he is, and plays to win, rather than for glory, I am a Rondo fan.

    I guess it has been an evolution.
     
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    In Response to Re: Danny's gamble:
    [QUOTE]He got a stud in  Green that can do a lot and has youth, size, and ability , plus a Center that is a good all around player and can stretch the defense.  When you watch Rondo, last night, miss a jumper and two layups in the last few minutes, you may just be thankful that Rondo and Perk are not on the court at the same time, not thankful that Perk is gone because a defensive presence went with him that is not prestent at this time.  He got a first round choice from a weak team that is protected if it is a top ten pick.  He picked up Troy Murphy who let the NBA one year in precentage of defensive rebounds and has had several good years , one at 15 points per game, and he picked up a big three that can defend and shoot and has a bundle of playoff experience, and he did all of this wihtout getting old wore out players.  Yes we are better and will be better, the only mistake Danny made was letting Luke go.
    Posted by maryngary[/QUOTE]

    Who was the "Big 3" that we picked up with a "bundle" of playoff experience?  If your talking about Green he only has one playoff series I think.

    Agree with most of your comments.  I think Erden may end up being a mistake also, especially since the move didn't really do anything for us unless your think Arroya and Sasha was the reason Danny did it.
     
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    Rookie of the year vs  player in the draft Listed by Ian Thomson  at SI

    It is amazing how many of these players are on the current

    Boston Celtics team.
    Year Rooky of the YearBest player in the draft
    89-90David Robinson (No. 1 pick in 1987)Tim Hardaway (No. 14 in the '89 draft)
    90-91Derrick Coleman (No. 1 in '90)Gary Payton (No. 2)
    91-92Larry Johnson (1)Dikembe Mutombo (4)
    92-93Shaquille O'Neal (1), Magic

    O'Neal

    93-94Chris Webber (1)Webber
    94-95Jason Kidd (2) and Grant Hill (3) Kidd and Hill
    95-96Damon Stoudamire (7)Kevin Garnett (5)
    96-97Allen Iverson (1)Duncan
    97-98Tim Duncan (1)Dirk Nowitzki (9) and Paul Pierce (10)
    98-99Vince Carter (5)Manu Ginobili (57)
    99-00Elton Brand (1) & Steve Francis (2)Kenyon Martin (1)
    00-01Mike Miller (5)Kenyon Martin (1)
    01-02Pau Gasol (3)Gasol
    02-03Amar'e Stoudemire (9)Stoudemire
    03-04LeBron James (1)James
    04-05Emeka Okafor (2)Dwight Howard (1)
    05-06Chris Paul (4)Paul and Deron Williams (3)
    06-07Brandon Roy (6)Rajon Rondo (21)
    07-08Kevin Durant (2)Durant
    08-09Derrick Rose (1)Rose
    09-00Tyreke Evans (4)Blake Griffin (1)
       
     

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