Doc signs for 5 yrs, somethings up!

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    Doc signs for 5 yrs, somethings up!

    I just can't help but think something big is going to go down this off season. Ainge said that he cannot guarantee that all of the Big 4 will be in Boston next year...huh! Very cryptic...what does that mean? Why did Doc jump up and sign a 5 year deal? He didn't sign the deal earlier in the year. I believe that Ainge told him what he plans to do and Doc jumped on board. Doc is regarded as the top coach that players want to play for now.I believe that move is packaging Rondo to get CP3. CP3 will get endorsements from Wade, LeBron and the Big 3 on Doc as a coach. I don't think Ainge and Doc liked the way Rondo handled the Perk trade and it caused some doubt on his attitude. CP3 allows the C's to play 5 on 5 instead of 4 on 5. CP3 will attract other FAs and will key the transition away from the Big 3. NY doesn't have the pieces to trade for CP3, they would wait for him to leave via FA. Dangling Rondo and someone else would get it done. It will put pressure on Howard to decide whether he wants to play with CP3 or DWill in NJ. Rondo, BBD, Green and 2 #1s for CP3 and Ariza or Landry would get it done.I'm not sure whats going on but something is going on.
     
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    thats a good start for the for the celtics

    They showed a chart of the players that are signed next year and on.

    The big3 were signed until 2012 i believe so they still gonna be here next year and others till 2015. Meaning they still have a good nucleous. Just need to get rid of some dead weight...Just like the heat do.

    Very hard to come to a team all of a sudden and click tonny allen and kristic are good players but look at the knicks they got anthony but werent clicking enough to make it happen.

    Takes time.

    Next year the heat and celtics will be better as they will sign a couple of free agents and improve their squads.
     
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    I agree, a lot of talk about retirment from Doc and then inks a 5-year deal.  It wasnt so that he could sit around and watch the big three grow old together.
     
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    Word that Ainge is going to offer Green a offer before July 1st could mean that he ends up part of a deal if he's already under contract.

    Rondo is really the only expendable player that will get the C's more talent around PP, KG and RA. No one is trading for any of those 3 because of their age.

    RA has a player option and getting Doc back and maybe CP3 will make it hard for RA to walk away.
     
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    Bias,
    If it helps the Celtics I am all for it, but I think your premise has too much supposition to be very likely. I think Danny and Doc are committed to improving the Celtics for the duration of their stay here. Danny made a couple of comments that don't sound like ringing endorsements of a title next year.  Who knows.

    What is important is going out and rebuilding this team in 2012-13.  We have the Clippers draft choice and will have a load of money to spend.  These guys as you say have a plan and we will see how it plays out.

    Rondo for what it is worth after the last game said that Doc had given him reassurances that he was staying.  Doc believes in Rondo, CP3 has had injury problems and the trade that you suggest right now does not guarantee Howard.

    Chris Paul cannot do it all and I am not sure if Rondo learns to shoot he will not  be better.
     
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    Something is DEF up.

    If doc doesn't resign, Rondo is in a funk, doesn't play good ball to start off the season, his value goes to ZERO... like after the Perkins trade... and here we go again.

    THis way, Rondo starts off the season with renewed enthusiasm... and is showcased... and then traded.

    Big question..... does Rondo report to his new team or does he balk at the trade?

    That depends.

    Stay tuned as the soap opera no doubt will continue.

    Pud
     
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    Bias, I have to say that I don't always agree with you, but, nice post.

     
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    I see where you're coming from but I think the opposite is true. Docs coaching ability has been ,for better or worse, tied to the rise and fall of PP,RA and KG. Who were increasingly less enthusiastic about how Doc wanted things done. I think DAs public expression of wanting to get faster and more athletic and changing roles and tempo are why Doc is staying. If DA had said we're going to try patch up the holes sail forward with the Big3 and some more aging vets past their prime Doc would've hung it up. I don't we have any chance at getting CP and if we did it would'nt be by trading Rondo. If any of our core guys are going to be traded it would be KG or RA, more likely KG sadly for his expiring contract than the remainder of his talents. If we could trade KG for CP in a sign and trade. I think CP would play the 2 and him and Rondo would be the second coming of Clyde and Pearl. Players I would like to see added are 1 Tyson Chandler, he would be a great great fit and Micheal Redd IF he's healthy. If you look at DAs drafts the couple of years the emphasis has been speed and athleticism more than refined specialist skills. Going forward Doc, in my opinion would love to have a team of 1/4 horses than clydsdales.
     
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    I agree that having Doc here gives this team free agent cred.  And observing what Danny Ainge has done over the past 8 years, I have no doubt that everyone on the roster is available if the right deal comes up (see Antoine, KG, Ray Allen and Perk trades).  Not saying they automatically contend next year, and Danny may break a few eggs on the way to making an omelette, but I have no doubt that he will make many trades and FA acquisitions to put this team on track in the new 2-3 years.    
     
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    I agree, something must be up. Very surprising for Doc to sign up for another 5 yrs, after all the frustrations this (regular) season and the one before that. With essentially the same team I cannot imagine that it will be a smoother ride next year.
    So, what's up??
     
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    Something's up Fo Sho!

    40 year old virgin " She wasaho fo sho.."


     
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    There are only two big fish out there that would make Doc sign on for 5 years, probably only staying 2-3.

    Dwight Howard
    Chris Paul

    Neither the Magic or Hornets want to see either of them walk without compensation.

    Hey even if you're trading for Howard or Paul without assurances of them resigning, getting 2 titles would be worth it aligning with the Big 3 departure.

    I would do it even if it meant in 2014 none of them were Celtics but we had titles #18 & #19. The cash flow would be flowing again.
     
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    I would prefer not to pursue Westbrook personally. He's a scoring guard trying to play PG.

    I also think BBD's stock dropped so much that he could be included in a deal or just let go. I don't see him in Boston.
     
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    [QUOTE]I think it is far fetched but there might be something to it; I was struck by how both Danny and Doc kept mentioning the Bg Three this and the Big Three that even mentioning Jeff Green and Baby, but never Rajon as the cornerstone that we are building around...  "we have to get guys to surround the Big Three with"...  what not Rondo...  I was a little curious with that...  We could see a lot of things happen...  a deal with OKC for Russell Westbrook...  etc...  etc...  I think they need to sign Big Baby because he has trade value...  perhaps bring an Okafor our way...   If it does not include some blockbuster trade then we are essentially looking at the same team with a couple of free-agents here and there... But I did find it interesting that they were talking about building around the Big Three. 
    Posted by ShepherdCall[/QUOTE]

    Okafor is too short and lacks great post skills for that contract.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Doc signs for 5 yrs, somethings up! : Austin Rivers?
    Posted by Fiercest34[/QUOTE]

    How could the Celtics draft Austin Rivers?  He will be a top draft pick.  The only way this happens if the Celtics end up with one of the worst records in the NBA and even then it doesn't guarantee their draft status.   I don't think they will drop this significantly. 
     
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    In Response to Re: Doc signs for 5 yrs, somethings up!:
    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Doc signs for 5 yrs, somethings up! : How could the Celtics draft Austin Rivers?  He will be a top draft pick.  The only way this happens if the Celtics end up with one of the worst records in the NBA and even then it doesn't guarantee their draft status.   I don't think they will drop this significantly. 
    Posted by susan250[/QUOTE]

    It been a while sincwe we traded up I think they would for Austin Rivers
     
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    Austin Rivers?  And how would that happen?  How could Doc sign a five-year up dependent upon the Celtics getting his son?  There are no guarantees in life or the NBA, so I can't imagine why a deal for a coach can be made even before a player becomes eligible for the draft.  Then there's always the possibility that young Rivers will take the college (life, educational) opportunity for the full four years. One thing is for sure, his body hasn't even begun to mature - he's a small 6'4" and might need at least another three years before he could handle the physical demands of pro ball.  I think something's afoot, but not Austin. I also hope it's not Oden for obvious physical reasons as well.  I like the CP scenario but it might take mortgaging the future to bring him to Boston.  Even if we had him, who else is there to build around, assuming Jeff Green is part of a trade?
     
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    [QUOTE]I just can't help but think something big is going to go down this off season. Ainge said that he cannot guarantee that all of the Big 4 will be in Boston next year...huh! Very cryptic...what does that mean? Why did Doc jump up and sign a 5 year deal? He didn't sign the deal earlier in the year. I believe that Ainge told him what he plans to do and Doc jumped on board. Doc is regarded as the top coach that players want to play for now.I believe that move is packaging Rondo to get CP3. CP3 will get endorsements from Wade, LeBron and the Big 3 on Doc as a coach. I don't think Ainge and Doc liked the way Rondo handled the Perk trade and it caused some doubt on his attitude. CP3 allows the C's to play 5 on 5 instead of 4 on 5. CP3 will attract other FAs and will key the transition away from the Big 3. NY doesn't have the pieces to trade for CP3, they would wait for him to leave via FA. Dangling Rondo and someone else would get it done. It will put pressure on Howard to decide whether he wants to play with CP3 or DWill in NJ. Rondo, BBD, Green and 2 #1s for CP3 and Ariza or Landry would get it done.I'm not sure whats going on but something is going on.
    Posted by BiasLewis[/QUOTE]

    Something is definitely up... a lock out, significantly reduced player movement, the Cs way over both the old and new cap, stuck with the same roster, and a complete non-factor for the next 6 years.....

    The Cs were 33 and 10 with Shaq and then played out the season at about 500.... imagine not going 33 and 10 next year because Shaq is not around.... wow... you have a 500 team.......

    Superstars want to go where there is a chance to win and there is no chance to win if it requires trading away the best players and continue to get nothing in the draft....

    Because Doc signs for 5 years something must be brewing.....what is brewing is a protracted lockout that will result in players required to be 2 years out of high school instead of 1, a hard cap that ensures that players will stay with their teams, significantly lower salaries which will render Pierce's and Rondo's contracts as a dual albatross..... but of course because signs a contract that means that Danny has already worked out some sort of deal......  lmao rotfl.......

    Dreeeaaam, dream, dream, dream, dreaammmm.....
     
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    I wish you were right, I doubt New Orleans wants Rondo ,  Rondo and Baby might get us a talented big and a healthy West could provide a point that can defend, pass, penetrate, and shoot.  Rondo and a player or draft choice sounds good if CP is healthy, I am a bit tired of the injury problems.
     
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    [QUOTE]I think it is far fetched but there might be something to it; I was struck by how both Danny and Doc kept mentioning the Bg Three this and the Big Three that even mentioning Jeff Green and Baby, but never Rajon as the cornerstone that we are building around...  "we have to get guys to surround the Big Three with"...  what not Rondo...  I was a little curious with that...  We could see a lot of things happen...  a deal with OKC for Russell Westbrook...  etc...  etc...  I think they need to sign Big Baby because he has trade value...  perhaps bring an Okafor our way...   If it does not include some blockbuster trade then we are essentially looking at the same team with a couple of free-agents here and there... But I did find it interesting that they were talking about building around the Big Three. 
    Posted by ShepherdCall[/QUOTE]


    So you ignored the part of the interview where Danny said they have no intentions of trading Rondo?

    And as was reported yesterday, none of the starters are off limits in terms of trades.

    Why on earth would OKC ever ever ever ever consider trading the third or fourth best point guard in the league?  There is zero percent chance that Westbrook will be traded.

    Okafor for 10 million dollars per year when the team is already vastly over the cap..... drugs are illegal... put the pipe down.
     

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