Eastern Conference Standings as of Nov. 30th

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    Wow.  Aside from Indy and Miami, the C's are certainly 'capable' of beating anyone in a 7 game series.  Imagine what happens if Lebron's back finally collapses, or Paul George twisted a knee?  The C's would tank their way right into the Finals. 

     
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    lets not get crazy!

     

    but, as the team stands now and assuming Rondo returns 100% around christmas time, this team might be a playoff team.

    in fact this team COULD end up with a better rexord than last years team.

     

    would that be a good thing long term.......most here think not.

     

    but, at this point unless Ainge starts dumping talent...the Celtics don't ahve much change getting a top 3 pick ni next years draft.

     

    so what if we end up 33-49 and have the seventh pick?

     

    we get a player like Harris (Mich St)

    and then get a player like Hanlen (BC) with the later pick?

     

    so we have a bunch guys who are learning to LOSE games and we end up with none of the big 3 in this draft.

     

    who was it said the only thing you leanr from losing is how to be a loser?

     

     

     

     
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    Wow.  Aside from Indy and Miami, the C's are certainly 'capable' of beating anyone in a 7 game series.  Imagine what happens if Lebron's back finally collapses, or Paul George twisted a knee?  The C's would tank their way right into the Finals. 

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    Don't get crazy...the entire East conference, aside from the Heat and the Pacers, SUCK...the talent and playing difference between teams with winning records and losing records is simply astounding....I've never seen the NBA be in such bad shape as this...a good thrid of the teams are not competitive and we are one....we HAVE to suck to get a decent draft pick...it WILL NOT be the result of tanking...it will be because we just aren't that good...and don't forget, the trades haven't happend yet, and they will, before the trade deadline.

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    NBA fan for 50 years.Never was such a mess as it is now.The whole league has 2 teams with chance o winning it all.The ideia of 3 superstars in a team,is killing the league.Appears to me that is exacly what the super agentes e super sponsors want.So we have a super mediocre league.Go Celtics

     
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    NBA fan for 50 years.Never was such a mess as it is now.The whole league has 2 teams with chance o winning it all.The ideia of 3 superstars in a team,is killing the league.Appears to me that is exacly what the super agentes e super sponsors want.So we have a super mediocre league.Go Celtics

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    There are too many teams. The talent is deluded. The NBA was better in the 1980's.

     
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    I hate having to say this but I think that the Celtics have become middle of the road. With a record of 7-11 you know that Boston would have won at least half of the 11 games (rounding up) with Rondo playing. Boston would be good enough to get into the playoffs but not enough win the Finals. Boston is winning too many games in this top heavy Eastern Conference. I certainly don't want a repeat of the 20 year drought.

     
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    That 20 year draught included the deaths of Len Bias and Reggie Lewis.....Bias was projected to become a superstar based on his size, skills, athleticsm, and a great college career......Lewis was just entering his prime and was an all star.....chances of a repeat in this category are pretty slim...I'm all for getting a top 5 pick if possible..but...I'm also extremely impressed with the way Stevens is coaching and the way the players are responding....I love Sully and I'm impressed right now with the way Crawford is playing...there will be trades but there is also a foundation being built...and we do have a lot of first round picks in hand if Ainge wants to make some deals....

     
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    Wow.  Aside from Indy and Miami, the C's are certainly 'capable' of beating anyone in a 7 game series.  Imagine what happens if Lebron's back finally collapses, or Paul George twisted a knee?  The C's would tank their way right into the Finals. 

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    Agree along way to go before the playoffs anything can happen dont like the idea of tanking giving the team a losing attitude and labeled losers draft picks pan out once in a while besides most championships are built on experience and chemistry. Be unselfish and play together thats what wins games  

     
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    How many years now has Cleveland had a top 5 draft pick ... four?  They've even been lucky the last year or two hopping over teams with more balls. And what have they got to show for it?  We pounded them last night with a team that most here proclaimed wouldn't be here next summer .... Please ... We are two players away from being regular playoff contenders and maybe an upgrade cycle away from that to being championship driven.

     
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    That 20 year draught included the deaths of Len Bias and Reggie Lewis.....Bias was projected to become a superstar based on his size, skills, athleticsm, and a great college career......Lewis was just entering his prime and was an all star.....chances of a repeat in this category are pretty slim...I'm all for getting a top 5 pick if possible..but...I'm also extremely impressed with the way Stevens is coaching and the way the players are responding....I love Sully and I'm impressed right now with the way Crawford is playing...there will be trades but there is also a foundation being built...and we do have a lot of first round picks in hand if Ainge wants to make some deals....

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    The drought was a result of much more than the deaths of Bias and Lewis (though their deaths certainly played a big part of why Boston disappeared in the 90's). There were poor draft picks, bad trades, poor coaching. Management also made the mistake of signing players who were still serviceable but not capable of carrying the team to the finals, including guys like: Dominique Wilkins, Xavier McDaniel. I like what the Celtics are doing right now in developing the young players for next season. Many of us were hooting and hollering for O'Brien and Rivers to develop the Celtics young talent but they refused to do so. What is interesting is that these young guys are starting to jel and they are starting to believe in themselves. I am particularly impressed with Crawford. I couldn't stand his play last season. He was too out of control. He seems like a different player this year. More mature. I am still disappointed in Jeff Green. This guy should be a monster but he is just too timid. Mark my word, when Rondo returns the Celtics are going to be beating some of the top-tiered teams. I just don't want them to! I am really hoping for a top 6 pick.

     
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    How many years now has Cleveland had a top 5 draft pick ... four?  They've even been lucky the last year or two hopping over teams with more balls. And what have they got to show for it?  We pounded them last night with a team that most here proclaimed wouldn't be here next summer .... Please ... We are two players away from being regular playoff contenders and maybe an upgrade cycle away from that to being championship driven.

     



    You're forgetting the Cavs have a franchise player in Kyrie Irving which they got with the #1 pick in 2011.

     

    It's just unfortunate that the front office of the Cavs didn't make the right choice after getting Irving.

     

    How about OKC?

    Durant and Uncle Jeff in 2007.

    Westbrook and Ibaka in 2008.

    Harden in 2009.

    Finals in 2012.

     

    It only took OKC 5 years to get to the Finals exclusively building through the draft.

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    Have they won yet?     NO!!!!

    And since then they've lost Harden ... An argument can be made that they missed their window and are now on the downside of the bell shaped curve.

     
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    The odds of rebuilding thru the draft so quickly are ridiculously poor. The one team you can name has done squat with the 2nd best player on the planet ... Nuff Said!

    Danny would have to get lucky ala the Cavs hopping over other lottery teams and that hasn't ever happened other than being the team others hopped over. Play your hand out and let the chips fall where they will and take what the Hoop Gods offer by way of the draft cuz you, I and the C's have no power over the dropping of the ping pong balls.

    So if opportunity knocks by way of a Turner trade, you make it. If you can move Hump, Lee, Bogans, Bradley, etc to upgrade your talent ... you do it!

    Period ... End of Story!

     
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    " Aside from Indy and Miami, the C's are certainly 'capable' of beating anyone in a 7 game seri"

    One little problem with your thesis: 

    The Pacers could whip the Celts without Paul George and the Heat could beat the Celts without Lebron James. 

    It's true there are a lot of bad teams in the east, so if you're content to be amongts the bad teams, fine. 

    The Milwaukee Bucks have three wins this season, two against the Celts. 

     

     
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    The teams in the East are all bunched together...someone will play better.  I'm betting on both NY teams.

    BTS pointed out that MIL has beaten us twice this year.  Also important to note is that we have played 3 more games than the Bucks.  For arguments sake, if they won those 3, we'd be 1/2 game better than the Bucks!  I see PHI, ORL BOS and CHA as the 4 worst teams right now.  MIL may get  better, may not, but I think they will end up better than us.

    There are no teams ahead of us, including the Pistons, that  I would like to play in a 7 game series right now.

     

     
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    The odds of rebuilding thru the draft so quickly are ridiculously poor. The one team you can name has done squat with the 2nd best player on the planet ... Nuff Said!

    Danny would have to get lucky ala the Cavs hopping over other lottery teams and that hasn't ever happened other than being the team others hopped over. Play your hand out and let the chips fall where they will and take what the Hoop Gods offer by way of the draft cuz you, I and the C's have no power over the dropping of the ping pong balls.

    So if opportunity knocks by way of a Turner trade, you make it. If you can move Hump, Lee, Bogans, Bradley, etc to upgrade your talent ... you do it!

    Period ... End of Story!

     

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    Yes, but don't forget that Sully is a steal after Ainge got him with the #21 pick.

     

    You and Lame rame wanted PJ3 and Moultrie.

     

    The only reason why a lot of us here want a top 3 pick is because it gives the Celts a bigger chance of getting a star player.

    Even if the Celts don't get a top 3 player, Ainge still has a lot of options if the Celts end up getting a pick in the 6-10 range.

    That's many of us here don't want the Celts to win 30 or more games.

     

    And of course if you can get Evan Turner at a bargain you do it.

    But the Sixers will not just throw away Turner for garbage.

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    1) First of all let's get something straight. Rame and I did not want PJ3 or Moultrie instead of Sully. After Sully was picked we insisted that either of those two s/b taken next instead of Melo .... Is Melo a Celtic today?  NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Did you want Melo?  YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    2) To say that picking in the top three of the draft assures a team of getting a star player is a crock of bull! All one has to do is go back five months to Clevelands pick of Anthony Bennett. The C's have never fared well in the lottery (3rd is the best pick I can remember and that was supposed to be a #1 pick after tanking and embarrassing the team/owners). I can think of more stars that came to the C's by trade vs draft ...

    Parish (Incl pick #3 to get McHale), DJ, Allen, KG & Rondo (C's trade Cavs 2007 1st rd pk for RR) all came by way of trade ... the Draft Lottery?  Let's see ... Pierce, Billups, Johnson, Walker?, Bias? ... Maybe 1 or 2 of those guys were ever a star for the C's.  NO CONTEST!!!

    3) And for that you don't want the C's to win 30 games? Good luck! We already have 7 ... I see them winning half their games in Dec or another 6 w/o RR, so that's 13 with four months to go. If you're right about 5/mo thereafter that would be another 20 for a total of 33!!!  And you're assuming RR won't add much of an improvement and that Ainge will trade away talent rather than for talent. If you are wrong about one or both of those points then 33 wins will just be a memory.

    4) There's already been talk of Turner for Waiters (Waiters is garbage compared to Turner) and also Marion (Expiring Contract) for Turner with our 2014 2nd rd pick ... More garbage! Nothing should surprise you when trades happen ... remember Miami trading Beasley (2008 #2 lottery pick) to MN for a 2011 2nd rounder to create cap space?  Now that's garbage!!!

     
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