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    eliminating philly

    Rondo and crawford for richardson plus 2014 and 2015 1st rd picks

     

     
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    You realize that they just sold off their own (non-injured) ALLSTAR 23 year old PG for picks... why they heck would they want Rondo?

     

    Ticket, I certainly do like your mindset though. Part of the goal of any trade must be to make other weak EC teams better. That's why I like the Det, Cha, Mil and Was trade ideas.

     
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    http://www.sheridanhoops.com/2013/07/17/may-celtics-76ers-rivalry-needs-a-rebuild-on-both-sides/

     

    The Celtics appear to have a plan going forward, amassing draft picks (nine first-rounders in the next five years) as well as young talent and a bright, appealing new coach.

     

    The Celtics can claim – without an accompanying laugh track – that they are not tanking this season with an eye on what GM Danny Ainge calls a “top-heavy but not that deep” 2014 NBA draft.

     

    Right now, the once-proud 76ers look more like their D-League affiliate than an NBA playoff contender. Then again, maybe that’s the plan. Last summer, the team said goodbye to Andre

    Jrue Holiday

    Iguodala, Lou Williams and Elton Brand. This summer it was Jrue Holiday. That leaves them with Evan Turner, Spencer Hawes, Thaddeus Young and Lavoy Allen from the team that took Boston to seven games in May 2012.

    New GM Sam Hinkie ... has acquired four jettisoned Houston Rockets. Of those four, only one – James Anderson – has played in more than three NBA games. Two of the four, including Royce White, have yet to appear in an NBA regular-season game.

    On draft night, Hinkie traded away his only All-Star in Holiday to the Pelicans for the rights to Nerlens Noel and a 2014 first-round pick. Philadelphia could thus possess two lottery picks in 2014 if New Orleans cooperates.

     

    Now that's a tanking GM !!!  One that's acquiring four useless players to fill his roster and assure more losses to acquire more ping pong balls in the draft lottery than wins.

     
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    Exactly. to "tank" is a plan to intentionally lose games.  Like Philly is doing.

    Danny is positioning the team for a quick rebuild, implementing a strategy of replacement and improvement based on the best short and long term leverage of his player assets to improve the team. 

     
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    Exactly. to "tank" is a plan to intentionally lose games.  Like Philly is doing.

    Danny is positioning the team for a quick rebuild, implementing a strategy of replacement and improvement based on the best short and long term leverage of his player assets to improve the team. 



    Is there really a big difference between the C's and the 76's?

     
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    Exactly. to "tank" is a plan to intentionally lose games.  Like Philly is doing.

    Danny is positioning the team for a quick rebuild, implementing a strategy of replacement and improvement based on the best short and long term leverage of his player assets to improve the team. 

     



     

    Is there really a big difference between the C's and the 76's?

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    Yes ... they want the #1 lottery pick and their actions prove their GM is doing everything he can to make sure they get it. Danny just wants to get into the top 5-10 and he can trade up to get his man w/o jettisoning the entire roster to get there. Danny's still trying to improve the roster not get worse.

     
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    Exactly. to "tank" is a plan to intentionally lose games.  Like Philly is doing.

    Danny is positioning the team for a quick rebuild, implementing a strategy of replacement and improvement based on the best short and long term leverage of his player assets to improve the team. 

     

     

     



     

     

     

    Is there really a big difference between the C's and the 76's?

     

     




    Yes ... they want the #1 lottery pick and their actions prove their GM is doing everything he can to make sure they get it. Danny just wants to get into the top 5-10 and he can trade up to get his man w/o jettisoning the entire roster to get there. Danny's still trying to improve the roster not get worse.

     

     

     



    We don't know what Danny really wants and tries!Wink 

     

    I think he wants Wiggins too but he doesn't want to put all eggs in one basket. Therefor he doesn't rush things, accumulates the assets (picks) and keeps flexibility. The Celtics now are a team with major holes, DA knows it and realizes that this team won't win many games.

    Maybe they don't want to be as bad as the 76's (already have got Noel and another lottery pick Carter-Williams) but they want to improve through the 2014 draft just like the 76's, that's for sure.

     
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    Exactly. to "tank" is a plan to intentionally lose games.  Like Philly is doing.

    Danny is positioning the team for a quick rebuild, implementing a strategy of replacement and improvement based on the best short and long term leverage of his player assets to improve the team. 

     

     

     


     

     

     

    Is there really a big difference between the C's and the 76's?

     

     




    Yes ... they want the #1 lottery pick and their actions prove their GM is doing everything he can to make sure they get it. Danny just wants to get into the top 5-10 and he can trade up to get his man w/o jettisoning the entire roster to get there. Danny's still trying to improve the roster not get worse.

     

     

     



    We don't know what Danny really wants and tries!Wink 

     

    I think he wants Wiggins too but he doesn't want to put all eggs in one basket. Therefor he doesn't rush things, accumulates the assets (picks) and keeps flexibility. The Celtics now are a team with major holes, DA knows it and realizes that this team won't win many games.

    Maybe they don't want to be as bad as the 76's (already have got Noel and another lottery pick Carter-Williams) but they want to improve through the 2014 draft just like the 76's, that's for sure.




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    Exactly. to "tank" is a plan to intentionally lose games.  Like Philly is doing.

    Danny is positioning the team for a quick rebuild, implementing a strategy of replacement and improvement based on the best short and long term leverage of his player assets to improve the team. 

     

     

     


     

     

     

    Is there really a big difference between the C's and the 76's?

     

     




    Yes ... they want the #1 lottery pick and their actions prove their GM is doing everything he can to make sure they get it. Danny just wants to get into the top 5-10 and he can trade up to get his man w/o jettisoning the entire roster to get there. Danny's still trying to improve the roster not get worse.

     

     

     



    We don't know what Danny really wants and tries!Wink 

     

    I think he wants Wiggins too but he doesn't want to put all eggs in one basket. Therefor he doesn't rush things, accumulates the assets (picks) and keeps flexibility. The Celtics now are a team with major holes, DA knows it and realizes that this team won't win many games.

    Maybe they don't want to be as bad as the 76's (already have got Noel and another lottery pick Carter-Williams) but they want to improve through the 2014 draft just like the 76's, that's for sure.



    That's what I said ... Danny wants to keep adding assets but still have a shot at the 5-10 slot in the lottery so he can move up if need be/possible to get his man. He is not interested in being the worse team in basketball to just have a shot at the #1 pick. Odds are against that happening anyway. Usually some team from 2-8 ends up with the #1 pick so being worse isn't a priority. And sure he may be thinking how good Wiggins would look in green but he's not obsessing over it like Fungus. Getting a pick in the top 5 or 8 will get him a potential future starter.

     

     
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    Exactly. to "tank" is a plan to intentionally lose games.  Like Philly is doing.

    Danny is positioning the team for a quick rebuild, implementing a strategy of replacement and improvement based on the best short and long term leverage of his player assets to improve the team. 

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Is there really a big difference between the C's and the 76's?

     

     




    Yes ... they want the #1 lottery pick and their actions prove their GM is doing everything he can to make sure they get it. Danny just wants to get into the top 5-10 and he can trade up to get his man w/o jettisoning the entire roster to get there. Danny's still trying to improve the roster not get worse.

     

     

     



    We don't know what Danny really wants and tries!Wink 

     

    I think he wants Wiggins too but he doesn't want to put all eggs in one basket. Therefor he doesn't rush things, accumulates the assets (picks) and keeps flexibility. The Celtics now are a team with major holes, DA knows it and realizes that this team won't win many games.

    Maybe they don't want to be as bad as the 76's (already have got Noel and another lottery pick Carter-Williams) but they want to improve through the 2014 draft just like the 76's, that's for sure.

     



    That's what I said ... Danny wants to keep adding assets but still have a shot at the 5-10 slot in the lottery so he can move up if need be/possible to get his man. He is not interested in being the worse team in basketball to just have a shot at the #1 pick. Odds are against that happening anyway. Usually some team from 2-8 ends up with the #1 pick so being worse isn't a priority. And sure he may be thinking how good Wiggins would look in green but he's not obsessing over it like Fungus. Getting a pick in the top 5 or 8 will get him a potential future starter.

     

     

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    I agree that he isn't going to pursuit #1 pick by all means but still his team is pretty bad and he's not in a hurry to change it, right? Tanking, rebuilding etc - it's a semantics thing. 

    Anyway it'd be tough to be worse than the 76's!Laughing

     
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    Exactly. to "tank" is a plan to intentionally lose games.  Like Philly is doing.

    Danny is positioning the team for a quick rebuild, implementing a strategy of replacement and improvement based on the best short and long term leverage of his player assets to improve the team. 

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Is there really a big difference between the C's and the 76's?

     

     




    Yes ... they want the #1 lottery pick and their actions prove their GM is doing everything he can to make sure they get it. Danny just wants to get into the top 5-10 and he can trade up to get his man w/o jettisoning the entire roster to get there. Danny's still trying to improve the roster not get worse.

     

     

     



    We don't know what Danny really wants and tries!Wink 

     

    I think he wants Wiggins too but he doesn't want to put all eggs in one basket. Therefor he doesn't rush things, accumulates the assets (picks) and keeps flexibility. The Celtics now are a team with major holes, DA knows it and realizes that this team won't win many games.

    Maybe they don't want to be as bad as the 76's (already have got Noel and another lottery pick Carter-Williams) but they want to improve through the 2014 draft just like the 76's, that's for sure.

     

     



    That's what I said ... Danny wants to keep adding assets but still have a shot at the 5-10 slot in the lottery so he can move up if need be/possible to get his man. He is not interested in being the worse team in basketball to just have a shot at the #1 pick. Odds are against that happening anyway. Usually some team from 2-8 ends up with the #1 pick so being worse isn't a priority. And sure he may be thinking how good Wiggins would look in green but he's not obsessing over it like Fungus. Getting a pick in the top 5 or 8 will get him a potential future starter.

     

     

     

     

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    I agree that he isn't going to pursuit #1 pick by all means but still his team is pretty bad and he's not in a hurry to change it, right? Tanking, rebuilding etc - it's a semantics thing. 

    Anyway it'd be tough to be worse than the 76's!Laughing

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    Team isn't as bad as you might think ... aside from a rookie coach and two players coming back from injuries they are only a few pieces away from being competitive. Again, the coaching/injury stuff will be the inhibiting factor ... not the quality of the roster especially as it develops.

     
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    Exactly. to "tank" is a plan to intentionally lose games.  Like Philly is doing.

    Danny is positioning the team for a quick rebuild, implementing a strategy of replacement and improvement based on the best short and long term leverage of his player assets to improve the team. 

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Is there really a big difference between the C's and the 76's?

     

     




    Yes ... they want the #1 lottery pick and their actions prove their GM is doing everything he can to make sure they get it. Danny just wants to get into the top 5-10 and he can trade up to get his man w/o jettisoning the entire roster to get there. Danny's still trying to improve the roster not get worse.

     

     

     



    We don't know what Danny really wants and tries!Wink 

     

    I think he wants Wiggins too but he doesn't want to put all eggs in one basket. Therefor he doesn't rush things, accumulates the assets (picks) and keeps flexibility. The Celtics now are a team with major holes, DA knows it and realizes that this team won't win many games.

    Maybe they don't want to be as bad as the 76's (already have got Noel and another lottery pick Carter-Williams) but they want to improve through the 2014 draft just like the 76's, that's for sure.

     

     



    That's what I said ... Danny wants to keep adding assets but still have a shot at the 5-10 slot in the lottery so he can move up if need be/possible to get his man. He is not interested in being the worse team in basketball to just have a shot at the #1 pick. Odds are against that happening anyway. Usually some team from 2-8 ends up with the #1 pick so being worse isn't a priority. And sure he may be thinking how good Wiggins would look in green but he's not obsessing over it like Fungus. Getting a pick in the top 5 or 8 will get him a potential future starter.

     

     

     

     

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    I agree that he isn't going to pursuit #1 pick by all means but still his team is pretty bad and he's not in a hurry to change it, right? Tanking, rebuilding etc - it's a semantics thing. 

    Anyway it'd be tough to be worse than the 76's!Laughing

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    The players from the Brooklyn trade cannot be moved until beginning December 15, Rondo is not tradeable till he proves himself healthy, aven'teven started camp to evaluate the players - so there isn't much that Danny hasn't already done to quickly rebuild.  Its not a race.  Its all about making the right moves at the right time.    

     
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    Exactly. to "tank" is a plan to intentionally lose games.  Like Philly is doing.

    Danny is positioning the team for a quick rebuild, implementing a strategy of replacement and improvement based on the best short and long term leverage of his player assets to improve the team. 

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Is there really a big difference between the C's and the 76's?

     

     




    Yes ... they want the #1 lottery pick and their actions prove their GM is doing everything he can to make sure they get it. Danny just wants to get into the top 5-10 and he can trade up to get his man w/o jettisoning the entire roster to get there. Danny's still trying to improve the roster not get worse.

     

     

     



    We don't know what Danny really wants and tries!Wink 

     

    I think he wants Wiggins too but he doesn't want to put all eggs in one basket. Therefor he doesn't rush things, accumulates the assets (picks) and keeps flexibility. The Celtics now are a team with major holes, DA knows it and realizes that this team won't win many games.

    Maybe they don't want to be as bad as the 76's (already have got Noel and another lottery pick Carter-Williams) but they want to improve through the 2014 draft just like the 76's, that's for sure.

     

     

     



    That's what I said ... Danny wants to keep adding assets but still have a shot at the 5-10 slot in the lottery so he can move up if need be/possible to get his man. He is not interested in being the worse team in basketball to just have a shot at the #1 pick. Odds are against that happening anyway. Usually some team from 2-8 ends up with the #1 pick so being worse isn't a priority. And sure he may be thinking how good Wiggins would look in green but he's not obsessing over it like Fungus. Getting a pick in the top 5 or 8 will get him a potential future starter.

     

     

     

     

     

     

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    I agree that he isn't going to pursuit #1 pick by all means but still his team is pretty bad and he's not in a hurry to change it, right? Tanking, rebuilding etc - it's a semantics thing. 

    Anyway it'd be tough to be worse than the 76's!Laughing

     

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    The players from the Brooklyn trade cannot be moved until beginning December 15, Rondo is not tradeable till he proves himself healthy, aven'teven started camp to evaluate the players - so there isn't much that Danny hasn't already done to quickly rebuild.  Its not a race.  Its all about making the right moves at the right time.    

     

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    That's not entirely true ... Only Bogans has a "Do Not Trade" until Dec label cause he was a S&T. The others that were player for player can be traded at any time.

     
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    A little more clarification, (except for "Player for Player" and Bogans):

    "The new collective bargaining agreement mandates that new trade acquisitions cannot be packaged with any combination of other roster members until two months have passed. That would mean Wallace or Humphries can only be dealt after September 12 with no limitations." 

     
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    PG: Carter-Williams

    SG: Jason Richardson, James Anderson?

    SF: Evan Turner, Lavoy Allen

    PF: Thaddeus Young, Nerlens Noel, Royce White

    C: Spencer Hawes, Kwame Brown

     

    That roster is full of All-stars. Laughing 

     
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    In response to Eldunker's comment:

    A little more clarification, (except for "Player for Player" and Bogans):

    "The new collective bargaining agreement mandates that new trade acquisitions cannot be packaged with any combination of other roster members until two months have passed. That would mean Wallace or Humphries can only be dealt after September 12 with no limitations." 

    http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q99

    teams cannot trade players under the following circumstances: For two months after receiving the player in trade, if the trade aggregates the player's salary with the salaries of other players. However, the team is free to trade the player immediately, either by himself or without aggregating his salary with other salaries. This restriction applies only to teams over the salary cap.

     
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