Faverani

  1. You have chosen to ignore posts from mossad-did-911. Show mossad-did-911's posts

    Re: Faverani

    In response to melswitt's comment:
    [QUOTE]

    In response to mossad-did-911's comment:
    [QUOTE]

    not only is Fav a starting caliber center, but he is arguably the best player on the C's right now. 

    [/QUOTE]


    Now THAT is a truly sad statement...and it just might be true!

    [/QUOTE]

    haha i believe it is true. until Rondo comes back of course.

     
  2. You have chosen to ignore posts from mossad-did-911. Show mossad-did-911's posts

    Re: Faverani

    In response to Fierce34's comment:
    [QUOTE]

    wicks

     

    I like Faverani.

    All I'm saying is I'll wait until December to proclaim if he's really a starting caliber Center or not.

    That's all I'm saying.

     

    I didn't say Fav is not good or Fav can't be a starting Center in the NBA.

    The reason for this is 2 games into the season doesn't make you a great player.

    We have to see over time if he really is the real deal.

    [/QUOTE]

    you're supporting your argument by attacking straw man arguments. you don't have to be a "great player" to be a "starting caliber center". the fact is, Faverani is the starting center for the Boston Celtics, and i don't see anyone on this roster taking that away from him.

     
  3. This post has been removed.

     
  4. You have chosen to ignore posts from prakash. Show prakash's posts

    Re: Faverani

    In response to Fierce34's comment:
    [QUOTE]

    wicks

     

    I like Faverani.

    All I'm saying is I'll wait until December to proclaim if he's really a starting caliber Center or not.

    That's all I'm saying.

     

    I didn't say Fav is not good or Fav can't be a starting Center in the NBA.

    The reason for this is 2 games into the season doesn't make you a great player.

    We have to see over time if he really is the real deal.

    [/QUOTE]


    Too much talk around Fierce.  Or too much talk.  Whatever you prefer.  You are putting up a spirited efense but it sounds weak.  If you want to wait then just wait.

     
  5. You have chosen to ignore posts from mossad-did-911. Show mossad-did-911's posts

    Re: Faverani

    In response to Fierce34's comment:
    [QUOTE]

    In response to mossad-did-911's comment:

     

    [QUOTE]

     

     



    you're supporting your argument by attacking straw man arguments. you don't have to be a "great player" to be a "starting caliber center". the fact is, Faverani is the starting center for the Boston Celtics, and i don't see anyone on this roster taking that away from him.

     

     

    [/QUOTE]

    Yes, Fav starts for the Boston Celtics, one of the worst teams in the NBA right now.

     

    But will Fav start for Detroit?

    How about Chicago or Houston, will Fav start for those teams?

     

    Again, 2 very good games doesn't make you a starter.

    [/QUOTE]

    Faverani plays for the Boston Celtics, and he is their starting center.... would paul millsap or serge ibaka start at PF for the Wolves over Kevin Love? would they start for the Spurs over Tim Duncan? how about the Blazers over Aldridge?... no? i guess they aren't legit power forwards... that's your argument....

     
  6. This post has been removed.

     
  7. This post has been removed.

     
  8. You have chosen to ignore posts from prakash. Show prakash's posts

    Re: Faverani

    In response to Fierce34's comment:
    [QUOTE]


    Yes, Fav starts for the Boston Celtics, one of the worst teams in the NBA right now.

     

    But will Fav start for Detroit?

    How about Chicago or Houston, will Fav start for those teams?

     

    Again, 2 very good games doesn't make you a starter.

    [/QUOTE]

    I understand that you are responding to somebody else.  Fav shows pretty good potential to me.  If the Cs can develop Fav, Sullinger and Olynyk and find a quality 2, they will be back in business very quickly.

    Fav will not start for Chicago or Houston but I am pretty sure that Miami would love to have him.  As for Detroit, they have their own project ongoing and will not want to invest in a new project.

    Your claim to wait and collect more evidence before pronouncing Fav to be a starting caliber 5 is weak because that is not the argument.  The argument is "Does Fav show the potential to be a starting caliber 5?"  There are proponents here that believe that he does.  After watching a few games, i do too.

     
  9. You have chosen to ignore posts from prakash. Show prakash's posts

    Re: Faverani

    In response to Fierce34's comment:
    [QUOTE]

    In response to prakash's comment:

    [QUOTE]

     

     

    Too much talk around Fierce.  Or too much talk.  Whatever you prefer.  You are putting up a spirited efense but it sounds weak.  If you want to wait then just wait.

     

    [/QUOTE]

    Unfortunately, some of the Celtic fans here are cowards.

     

    We both had a friendly bet on whether Pierce and KG would stay.

    After we disagreed, we had a bet, and we waited.

    But some of the people here keep telling me I'm stupid for not believing that Fav is a legit starting NBA Center and that he's already better than Asik.

    When I challenged them to a bet similar to ours, they turn chicken.

    [/QUOTE]


    OK, I did not see that you have another agenda going on here.  I will keep out of it.  I agree, why chase Asik?  He is not a big piece and can only be a complimentary player.  So the primary players should be put in place before we get complimentary players.  Unless they can be had for cheap and for an extended period of time.  Looks like Danny has made a great bet with Fav.  3 years @2M per (The 3rd year is team option.  Right?).

     
  10. You have chosen to ignore posts from mossad-did-911. Show mossad-did-911's posts

    Re: Faverani

    more straw man arguments, this isn't 2004, or 2008, and we don't know how people here on the forum today felt about Blount or Perk at that time. however, 5 years later and Perk is still a starting Center. Faverani is way more talented and athletic than Perk ever was. 

     
  11. This post has been removed.

     
  12. You have chosen to ignore posts from mossad-did-911. Show mossad-did-911's posts

    Re: Faverani

    sounds like this is just a personal thing between fierce and mployee/wozzy. i'll stay out also.

     
  13. You have chosen to ignore posts from prakash. Show prakash's posts

    Re: Faverani

    In response to mossad-did-911's comment:
    [QUOTE]

    more straw man arguments, this isn't 2004, or 2008, and we don't know how people here on the forum today felt about Blount or Perk at that time. however, 5 years later and Perk is still a starting Center. Faverani is way more talented and athletic than Perk ever was. 

    [/QUOTE]

    This looks to be true.  But is he rugged enough?  Until the knee injury derailed him, Perk was quite a rugged player.

     
  14. This post has been removed.

     
  15. You have chosen to ignore posts from mossad-did-911. Show mossad-did-911's posts

    Re: Faverani

    In response to prakash's comment:
    [QUOTE]

    In response to mossad-did-911's comment:
    [QUOTE]

    more straw man arguments, this isn't 2004, or 2008, and we don't know how people here on the forum today felt about Blount or Perk at that time. however, 5 years later and Perk is still a starting Center. Faverani is way more talented and athletic than Perk ever was. 

    [/QUOTE]

    This looks to be true.  But is he rugged enough?  Until the knee injury derailed him, Perk was quite a rugged player.

    [/QUOTE]

    idk exactly what you mean by rugged. I understand he's a big guy, and an enforcer i guess, someone who makes people think twice about going to the hole, but he is also borderline dirty sometimes and not all that effective. Fav, from what i've seen so far, looks like a high effort guy similar to joakim noah and anderson varajao, but with more offensive skill. he can run the floor, finish at the basket, has some low post skill, and can shoot from outside. while he's not the greatest defensive big, he's still only 25, and has proven he can protect the rim.

     
  16. You have chosen to ignore posts from prakash. Show prakash's posts

    Re: Faverani

    In response to mossad-did-911's comment:
    [QUOTE]

    In response to prakash's comment:
    [QUOTE]

    In response to mossad-did-911's comment:
    [QUOTE]

    more straw man arguments, this isn't 2004, or 2008, and we don't know how people here on the forum today felt about Blount or Perk at that time. however, 5 years later and Perk is still a starting Center. Faverani is way more talented and athletic than Perk ever was. 

    [/QUOTE]

    This looks to be true.  But is he rugged enough?  Until the knee injury derailed him, Perk was quite a rugged player.

    [/QUOTE]

    idk exactly what you mean by rugged. I understand he's a big guy, and an enforcer i guess, someone who makes people think twice about going to the hole, but he is also borderline dirty sometimes and not all that effective. Fav, from what i've seen so far, looks like a high effort guy similar to joakim noah and anderson varajao, but with more offensive skill. he can run the floor, finish at the basket, has some low post skill, and can shoot from outside. while he's not the greatest defensive big, he's still only 25, and has proven he can protect the rim.

    [/QUOTE]


    Oh! I meant physically able to withstand the punishment down low.  He doesn't look sufficiently built to take the pounding over the long term.  That is my only concern.  Otherwise Fav is hands down better that Perk.

     
  17. You have chosen to ignore posts from mossad-did-911. Show mossad-did-911's posts

    Re: Faverani

    In response to Fierce34's comment:
    [QUOTE]

    In response to mossad-did-911's comment:

    [QUOTE]

     

    more straw man arguments, this isn't 2004, or 2008, and we don't know how people here on the forum today felt about Blount or Perk at that time. however, 5 years later and Perk is still a starting Center. Faverani is way more talented and athletic than Perk ever was. 

     

    [/QUOTE]

    Agree that Fav looks to be a better player than Perk.

     

    But here's the thing, if it's true that Perk is really a starting Center in the NBA, why did Ainge let him go?

     

    The point is even if you had one great season, that doesn't mean you're automatically a great player.

     

    If Fav turns out be the real deal then I'm happy.

    I'm just not going to declare him a legit starting NBA Center right now.

    [/QUOTE]

    again, you're arguing against non sequiturs. nobody is saying Fav is a great player, and you don't have to be great in order to start. The fact is Fav IS starting and he has shown the potential to remain a starter and be a good one. 

     
  18. You have chosen to ignore posts from mossad-did-911. Show mossad-did-911's posts

    Re: Faverani

    In response to prakash's comment:
    [QUOTE]

    In response to mossad-did-911's comment:
    [QUOTE]

    In response to prakash's comment:
    [QUOTE]

    In response to mossad-did-911's comment:
    [QUOTE]

    more straw man arguments, this isn't 2004, or 2008, and we don't know how people here on the forum today felt about Blount or Perk at that time. however, 5 years later and Perk is still a starting Center. Faverani is way more talented and athletic than Perk ever was. 

    [/QUOTE]

    This looks to be true.  But is he rugged enough?  Until the knee injury derailed him, Perk was quite a rugged player.

    [/QUOTE]

    idk exactly what you mean by rugged. I understand he's a big guy, and an enforcer i guess, someone who makes people think twice about going to the hole, but he is also borderline dirty sometimes and not all that effective. Fav, from what i've seen so far, looks like a high effort guy similar to joakim noah and anderson varajao, but with more offensive skill. he can run the floor, finish at the basket, has some low post skill, and can shoot from outside. while he's not the greatest defensive big, he's still only 25, and has proven he can protect the rim.

    [/QUOTE]


    Oh! I meant physically able to withstand the punishment down low.  He doesn't look sufficiently built to take the pounding over the long term.  That is my only concern.  Otherwise Fav is hands down better that Perk.

    [/QUOTE]

    i see. yeah, that's the big question mark. only time will tell. i certainly hope so!

     

Share