How would you feel about Paul ending his career with the Lakers?

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    http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/two-dimensional-semantics/

     

     http://www.ted.com/conversations/10249/where_does_arguing_semantics_g.html

     

    Semantics is the study of what and how words mean. A quick look at a dictionary will show you that words have multiple meanings. This helps explain why people can hear or read the same words, but come up with different meanings. It also means, that whenever we interpret language, we have to (unconsciously) decide which meaning is correct.

    A quick example: Somonee says "He is fair." Do they mean he is light skinned? Or that he is impartial? Both? Semantics studies the way people determine which definition fits.

    Usually, when you charge someone with arguing semantics, it is a charge that the person is avoiding answering the question, and is instead engaging in a discussion of what the words mean. So, if I asked you "Is your homework done?", and you started arguing about what "done" really means, you would be arguing semantics.

     


    Brilliant, and appproprate..............taken from:

    http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20110531214139AA5dc64

     

     
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    Usually, when you charge someone with arguing semantics, it is a charge that the person is avoiding answering the question, and is instead engaging in a discussion of what the words mean. So, if I asked you "Is your homework done?", and you started arguing about what "done" really means, you would be arguing semantics.

     

     

     
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    Usually, when you charge someone with arguing semantics, it is a charge that the person is avoiding answering the question, and is instead engaging in a discussion of what the words mean. So, if I asked you "Is your homework done?", and you started arguing about what "done" really means, you would be arguing semantics.

     




    New semantics from Mr. RedRust, teacher of the year, with teaching assistant Fierce:

     

    "hardly" == "never"

    "unlikely" == "No way" or "impossible"

    New logic from Mr. Rust:

    A implies B and !A implies !B are the same thing

     

     
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    it is a charge that the person is avoiding answering the question, and is instead engaging in a discussion of what the words mean.

     

     

     
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    Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

    Albert Einstein

     
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    Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

    Albert Einstein

     




    Yep, like keep using "Bynum injured -> Gasol trade" as evidence of "Bynum not injured -> no Gasol trade".

     

    Illogical: think that "Bynum injured -> Gasol trade" and "Bynum not injured -> no Gasol trade" are the same thing.

    Redrust logic

     
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    Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

    Albert Einstein

     
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    Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

    Albert Einstein





    Yep, like keep using "Bynum injured -> Gasol trade" as evidence of "Bynum not injured -> no Gasol trade".

     

    Illogical: think that "Bynum injured -> Gasol trade" and "Bynum not injured -> no Gasol trade" are the same thing.

    Redrust logic

     
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    Re: How would you feel about Paul ending his career with the Lakers?

    http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080412101125AAdNO4I

     

     

    If Bynum did not get injured. would gAsol have gone to LA?

     

    no i read about it a couple monhs ago and mitch kupchack said if bynum hadnt been injured we wouldnt have pursuit of gasol

     

     

    Sadly, no. Gasol being sent to LA is the only up-side to Bynum being injured.

     

     
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    http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080412101125AAdNO4I

     

     

    If Bynum did not get injured. would gAsol have gone to LA?

     

    no i read about it a couple monhs ago and mitch kupchack said if bynum hadnt been injured we wouldnt have pursuit of gasol

     

     

    Sadly, no. Gasol being sent to LA is the only up-side to Bynum being injured.

     

     

    Still don' t want to give up?


    Links? that's interesting...

     

     

     

     
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    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/lee_jenkins/02/22/kobe.bryant.pau.gasol/index.html

     

    Though general manager Mitch Kupchak said the trade was precipitated by an injury in early 2008 to center Andrew Bynum, Bryant believed his outburst compelled the Lakers to act.


    Read More: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/lee_jenkins/02/22/kobe.bryant.pau.gasol/index.html#ixzz2SuQjOzgX
     
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    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/lee_jenkins/02/22/kobe.bryant.pau.gasol/index.html

     

    Though general manager Mitch Kupchak said the trade was precipitated by an injury in early 2008 to center Andrew Bynum, Bryant believed his outburst compelled the Lakers to act.


    Read More: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/lee_jenkins/02/22/kobe.bryant.pau.gasol/index.html#ixzz2SuQjOzgX




     

    Ok, where's it said "no bynum injury -> no gasol trade"?

    Making things up out of thin air again?

     

     
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    Inference - a conclusion based on evidence and reasoning....................

     
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    Ramona Shelburne is THE top writer for the lakers.  This is her take on the trade.  This is the final piece, and ANYONE who reads this will know the truth:

     

    http://sports.espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/columns/story?id=4870339

     

    Though the Lakers had coveted Gasol from afar for several years, thinking privately that his unique set of skills -- passing ability, basketball IQ, shooting touch and deceptive athleticism -- would be the perfect complement to Bryant in the triangle offense, it wasn't until young center Andrew Bynum went down with a knee injury in mid-January 2008 that general manager Mitch Kupchak actively pursued a trade.

     


     
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    Inference - a conclusion based on evidence and reasoning....................

     

     

    Inference is logic. Yep, glad that you want to use logic.

    A implies B is not the equivalence of !A implies !B.

    Evidence why the Lakers would have traded for Gasol no matter what:


    1) They were sitting at 3rd in the conference on the day Bynum was injured, not the simple "leading the division" as someone claimed, no reason to stand pat.

    2) Teams always want to upgrade their talent, normal operating guidelines. No there is no link for this, just like there is no link that teams play to win.

    3) Teams cn upgrade talents without giving up too much talent, e.g. teams will jump for it. Again, there is no link for this.

     
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    Ramona Shelburne is THE top writer for the lakers.  This is her take on the trade.  This is the final piece, and ANYONE who reads this will know the truth:

     

    http://sports.espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/columns/story?id=4870339

     

    Though the Lakers had coveted Gasol from afar for several years, thinking privately that his unique set of skills -- passing ability, basketball IQ, shooting touch and deceptive athleticism -- would be the perfect complement to Bryant in the triangle offense, it wasn't until young center Andrew Bynum went down with a knee injury in mid-January 2008 that general manager Mitch Kupchak actively pursued a trade.

     

     

    Now you are using "Bynum was injured" to support your argument again. That's the "If Bynum was injured, then Mitch Kupchak was actively pursuit a trade". Now you use this to infer "If Bynum had not been injured, then Mitch Kupchak would not have pursued the trade"?

    You said you use evidence and inference?


    Besides, it's that's HER take. So it's NOT a fact. It's just one indivdual's opinions. In other words, you are using HER opinion to support you. True or false?



    If you want to compare OPINIONS, that's easy.

     

     

     

     

    http://forums.lakersground.net/togo/thread.php?topic_id=69704

     

     

    - kawai442

    The Lakers were looking to get Miller when the Griz offered Gasol. The injury had nothing to do with his availablity.

     

    - LA_Lakers_Rule

    With that said however I don't agree with those who say that Mitch would not have made that ridiculously lopsided trade without the Bynum injury …. if your offered an all-star front court player for Kwame, rookies and draft picks you do it.

     

    - kaoss128

    Uh no because you see that trade happens regardless of rather or not Bynum gets injured. Mitch did not do the deal because Bynum was injured. He did it because it significantly improves the roster. So I don't care what you think or what Mitch has made up and said in the past but the deal happens regardless. Therefore Bynum's injury was not a blessing.

     

    - activeverb

    Who knows? If Bynum had stayed healthy we still might have gotten Gasol…

    Certainly, Bynum being around wouldn't matter to Memphis in doing the trade. And if we were offered that deal and Bynum were healthy, hard for me to imagine us turning it down.

     

     

    - bluestorm1990

    Front office would of been dumb not going for him in the first place , all it took was kwame , few 1st round draft picks , and Jarvis . Nice to know our front office isn't naive as others are .

     

     

     

     

     

     
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    Who are those people?  Are they associated with the lakers?  Do they write for ESPN?  Anyone can put anything on the internet and be completely anonymous.  SHE is not allowed to write anything, and put her name on it unless it is true.  This is not her opinion, as it is backed up by both Jackson and Kupchak (evidence I've presented, which I'm sure you've forgotten).  Don't know who you want to hear it from -  and don't care!

    You produce something from a Beat Writer, a GM or someone associated with the lakers that refutes anything Ramona Shelburne wrote.  Giving me YOUR opinion, or anonymous bloggers opinions will be waste of your time...............and an admission of defeat.  For if you do, the next step will be to take it to the anonymous people on here, who will VOTE for who is right - me or you.

     

    If you would only admit it is POSSIBLE  I am correct, I would have a lot more respect for you and back off.  You seem to think you have proven something here................

     

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